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BumRushDaShow

(127,331 posts)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:47 PM Nov 2019

Trump asked the Pentagon to explore trench on the border, Pentagon advised against it

Source: CNN

(CNN)The Pentagon pushed back against President Donald Trump's request to construct a trench along the US-Mexico border to stop illegal border crossings, according to a letter obtained by CNN. "USACE determined that construction of an unreinforced 30' x 30' trench, while a deterrent, would take three to five times longer and cost approximately 20 percent more to emplace than other available options," Mark Esper wrote to Trump, referring to the US Army Corps of Engineers. Esper at the time was serving as the Secretary of the Army. The memo was signed June 26, 2018, and sent to the President, according to a defense official.

Trump made the border wall the cornerstone of his 2016 presidential campaign, pledging to construct additional barriers along the southern border. The request mentioned in Esper's letter appears to have been one of many ideas floated by the President amid frustrations over an influx of migrants at the southern border. Trump previously raised wanting to paint the wall black and include French-style doors, according to The Washington Post and confirmed by CNN.

The New York Times also previously reported that Trump considered a "water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators, prompting aides to seek a cost estimate." Trump denied the report on Twitter, saying "I may be tough on Border Security, but not that tough. The press has gone Crazy. Fake News!"

Esper's letter to the President doesn't make mention of snakes or alligators, but it reveals how the Pentagon advised against the President's request to fortify the border with a trench. "Only about 100 miles of the total border has geological conditions favorable to excavating an unreinforced 30' x 30' trench," Esper, who Trump later tapped to be his Secretary of Defense, wrote. "While addressing these challenges can be overcome in one way of another, the overall cost of constructing the trench -- even with the most modern of machinery -- is extremely expensive, and the time it would take to complete it would likely take much longer than other options the USACE developed."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/14/politics/esper-border-trench-estimate/index.html



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Trump asked the Pentagon to explore trench on the border, Pentagon advised against it (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 OP
He and everyone who supports him are SCUM Eliot Rosewater Nov 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #2
Works really well up-and down- hill (sarc). C_U_L8R Nov 2019 #3
This is a literal "bigger shovel" idea underpants Nov 2019 #5
Wait. How do you create a trench without absolute flat elevation? Iwasthere Nov 2019 #4
They can be built to the same relative contour as the land for the most part but its still a stupid cstanleytech Nov 2019 #8
I was thinking about what zoos have done to keep big cats at bay from spectators BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #9
Let me guess he then wanted it filled with alligators and piranha ? cstanleytech Nov 2019 #6
So....the dirt just goes away? underpants Nov 2019 #7
You do realize BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #10
Oh I get it. That should be the Fox News avatar underpants Nov 2019 #11
There ya go! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #13
Trump brand potting soil! JohnnyRingo Nov 2019 #12
By trench, he means moat. tclambert Nov 2019 #14
"If a wall won't work, maybe a hole?" thought Trump. Then his aide brought him his nightly KFC meal. TeamPooka Nov 2019 #15
Mexico will pay for it. BHDem53 Nov 2019 #16
Trump's very beautiful trench dalton99a Nov 2019 #17
Probably the stupid idiot Steven Miller thought of this...what a moron... SWBTATTReg Nov 2019 #18
Saw that article yesterday! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #19
cruel moron! riversedge Nov 2019 #20

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Iwasthere

(3,138 posts)
4. Wait. How do you create a trench without absolute flat elevation?
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:53 PM
Nov 2019

Even elevation changes of 10 or 20 feet would make this impossible???

cstanleytech

(26,087 posts)
8. They can be built to the same relative contour as the land for the most part but its still a stupid
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:13 PM
Nov 2019

as fuck idea for him to ask about it and that's saying something considering how stupid as fuck his wall idea was already.

underpants

(182,284 posts)
7. So....the dirt just goes away?
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:12 PM
Nov 2019

Going back, how would the snakes an gators survive? They aren't just thing that exist. They eat - that's pretty much what they do. Other than making more of them.

underpants

(182,284 posts)
11. Oh I get it. That should be the Fox News avatar
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:39 PM
Nov 2019

Nunes and Jordan yesterday were akin to an acid trip of talk radio with inside "jokes", extrapolations, and wild loops around nonsense that you have to be fully indoctrinated to understand.

SWBTATTReg

(21,859 posts)
18. Probably the stupid idiot Steven Miller thought of this...what a moron...
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 08:23 AM
Nov 2019

A slew of House Democratic leaders called on White House senior adviser Stephen Miller to resign Thursday after a report that he promoted white nationalist ideas and championed xenophobic rhetoric through the conservative website Breitbart before the 2016 election.

The report, released Tuesday by the Southern Poverty Law Center, analyzed more than 900 emails Miller purportedly sent to former Breitbart writer Katie McHugh in 2015 and 2016. The report’s author said that after reviewing the emails — which were provided to the SPLC by McHugh — he was “unable to find any examples of Miller writing sympathetically or even in neutral tones about any person who is nonwhite or foreign-born.”
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This person is literally, a pathetic human being.

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