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appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:32 AM Nov 2019

Washington Teacher Arrested After Threatening To Shoot Students, Police Say

Source: NBC News

"If the student does it, they’re going to jail. Now we have a teacher doing it. They're also going to jail," a Pierce County sheriff’s detective said. A teacher in Washington state was arrested Wednesday after threatening to shoot students, the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department said.

The teacher made the threat while on the phone with a caseworker, according to sheriff's officials.The woman has not been named by officials, who said she is a 58-year-old teacher at Emerald Ridge High School in South Hill.

She made the statement Tuesday while talking to a caseworker, who called the sheriff’s office around 6 p.m. to report the threat, the sheriff’s office said in a statement. The sheriff’s school resource deputy assigned to the high school, which is in Puyallup, contacted the teacher at her home, and "the teacher repeated the threat to the deputy and was placed under arrest," the sheriff’s office said.

The teacher was booked on a charge of threats to injure. Pierce County sheriff’s Detective Ed Troyer said that the teacher "didn't back off from those comments" as officials were conducting the investigation, according to NBC affiliate KING of Seattle...


Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/washington-teacher-arrested-after-threatening-shoot-students-police-say-n1082006



No weapons were recovered, and Troyer said it was unknown what prompted the threat. "Everybody knows you don’t talk about guns or make any threats in school," he said, "So she’s going to be booked in jail as we look into this a little bit further."
In a statement the Puyallup School District said "making threats against the safety of students and staff is a felony crime and taken very seriously by Puyallup School District," according to KING.
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(Newsweek). Emerald Ridge High School student Raul Garibaldo told KCPQ he was shocked by the news. "She's normally a really nice teacher," he said. "It's really traumatizing because it's a teacher I grew up with, during my lunch breaks I would go there and just talk. She was really helpful."

https://www.newsweek.com/washington-puyallup-emerald-ridge-high-school-math-teacher-arrested-shooting-threat-1471726
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Washington Teacher Arrested After Threatening To Shoot Students, Police Say (Original Post) appalachiablue Nov 2019 OP
This is a perfect example of why teachers shouldn't be armed. dware Nov 2019 #1
Righto. What set her off I wonder. One student said she 'was appalachiablue Nov 2019 #2
This is why teachers should not hve guns in school Coleman Nov 2019 #3
Dunno what her issue was but I know how awful some students appalachiablue Nov 2019 #6
Me too, 14 years teaching high school was my limit. beveeheart Nov 2019 #9
Students can be really awful. Psychologically she could have YOHABLO Nov 2019 #4
For sure, you and #3 said it. appalachiablue Nov 2019 #5
Arm the teachers! IronLionZion Nov 2019 #7
'Safety' appalachiablue Nov 2019 #8
How much time elapsed between the statement and the report to police? cyclonefence Nov 2019 #10
She repeated the threat to the police, and stood by it. Midnight Writer Nov 2019 #11
If it was a serious threat cyclonefence Nov 2019 #12
I'm curious about the caseworker conversation. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2019 #13
Agreed cyclonefence Nov 2019 #16
And a day later, another school shooting. Absolute insanity. Firestorm49 Nov 2019 #14
+1000 MustLoveBeagles Nov 2019 #15

dware

(12,250 posts)
1. This is a perfect example of why teachers shouldn't be armed.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:38 AM
Nov 2019

No telling what would have happened if this teacher was armed, as the NRA would have it.

appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
2. Righto. What set her off I wonder. One student said she 'was
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:40 AM
Nov 2019

nice, very helpful,' as I just posted. Ya never know..

Coleman

(851 posts)
3. This is why teachers should not hve guns in school
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:42 AM
Nov 2019

14 years of teaching these soul suckers makes it clear that even the best of teachers could finaly snap. I got out when the getting was good.

beveeheart

(1,368 posts)
9. Me too, 14 years teaching high school was my limit.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:10 PM
Nov 2019

Now, many years later, I volunteer-teach an English conversation class to adults who want to speak English better.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
4. Students can be really awful. Psychologically she could have
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:42 AM
Nov 2019

reached her tipping point. I hope she gets some help.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
7. Arm the teachers!
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:28 AM
Nov 2019

Then arm the students to defend against bad teachers!

Then arm veterans with PTSD as security officers to shoot both the students and teachers!

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
10. How much time elapsed between the statement and the report to police?
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:12 PM
Nov 2019

I am curious about the exact context in which the threat was made. I have often said that I want a machine gun mounted on the hood of my car, but clearly it's said in jest. It's just hard for me to understand how and why a teacher would say such a thing to a case worker, of all people. I'd like to see a transcript of the conversation. It's not that I don't think the words were spoken.

If there was a long delay (hours, say) between the incident and the reporting of it, it might mean that the caseworker understood that it was not a serious threat at the time it was spoken, but after thinking about it, realized she had an obligation to report such threats, seriously meant or not.

I would think that if the caseworker believed it was a serious threat, there would have been an immediate call to the cops. The fact that the call was made at 6 p.m. sounds like maybe the caseworker talked it over with someone and was reminded of her obligation to report *all* threats.

Midnight Writer

(21,712 posts)
11. She repeated the threat to the police, and stood by it.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 03:02 PM
Nov 2019

If it was a "joke", and she knew it had attracted attention from law enforcement, why would she repeat it?

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
12. If it was a serious threat
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:35 PM
Nov 2019

--unless she's insane--why would she repeat it to the police?

Not saying it wasn't a serious threat, just saying I want to hear its context, and how long it took the caseworker to report it.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
13. I'm curious about the caseworker conversation.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:41 PM
Nov 2019

What prompted the call, who the caseworker was representing...the teacher? a student?

In any case, the caseworker is mandated to report the threat, and she/he did so.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
16. Agreed
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 07:13 AM
Nov 2019

As a mandated reporter, the caseworker was required to report, whether the threat was serious or a joke. That's why I wanted to know the timeline--if the cw felt it was serious, I am sure it would have been reported immediately. If the cw understood it was said jokingly--as in "I could have killed that kid"--it might have been a while before the threat or "threat" was reported. The cw might have had doubts about reporting something obviously said in jest; after thinking about it, concluded even a joking threat was a mandated report.

It makes no sense to me that a teacher, who is also a mandated reporter, would have said such a thing to a person known to her to be a mandated reporter, unless it was said as a joke. A stupid joke, but a joke nonetheless.

Firestorm49

(4,029 posts)
14. And a day later, another school shooting. Absolute insanity.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:50 PM
Nov 2019

You'd think that after Scalise was shot at the ball game, they'd change their view, since it was one of their own, but they still
have more adoration for the NRA than the lives of innocent people or themselves. Wow, what a lobby huh? The NRA has both Republicans and Democrats by the nuts and knows how to hold them tight. Insanity.

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