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BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:21 AM Nov 2019

As Kentucky Rechecks Votes, Many Are Ready to Move On. The Governor Is Not.

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by JudyM (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: New York Times



Each of Kentucky’s 120 counties will spend about an hour Thursday morning double-checking the vote totals from Election Day last week, a procedure requested by the state’s incumbent governor after he lost the contest by about 5,000 votes.

On the eve of the recanvass — which is widely expected to confirm the victory of Attorney General Andy Beshear, the Democratic challenger — it seemed that nearly everyone was ready to put the election behind them. The state has begun preparing for a new administration, and Mr. Beshear has named the head of his transition team and the grand marshals of his inauguration parade.

The House Republican caucus has invited Mr. Beshear to its annual retreat to discuss areas of possible policy agreement. Senator Mitch McConnell, the majordomo of Kentucky Republicans, told a reporter for The Lexington Herald-Leader on Monday that, “barring some dramatic reversal on the recanvass, we’ll have a different governor in three weeks.”

Still, there remains at least one person who is not so ready to move on: Gov. Matt Bevin. “We are not conceding this race by any stretch,” Mr. Bevin declared from the podium at his election party last week. “We want the process to be followed.” Given the simplicity of the procedure and the statistical closeness of the final margin — less than half a percent of 1.4 million votes cast — many in Kentucky saw Mr. Bevin’s call for a recanvass as perfectly justifiable, though such an effort has not in recent memory overturned an election.


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/14/us/kentucky-governor-recanvass-bevin.html

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As Kentucky Rechecks Votes, Many Are Ready to Move On. The Governor Is Not. (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 OP
Still looking for hanging chads Roy Rolling Nov 2019 #1
ah those pregnant chads LOL onetexan Nov 2019 #12
It will be amusing if the recount efforts show that he lost by MORE than originally reported. NurseJackie Nov 2019 #2
Would love to see that outcome! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #5
Would even be more amusing if they found that 70000 to 120000 of the voters were entirely fraudulent cstanleytech Nov 2019 #14
moot point evertonfc Nov 2019 #3
A local summary of the recanvass process here..... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #4
Thank you! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #6
Agreed. We're on pins and needles here 'till it's all over,..... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #9
Well Andy has his dad to help navigate the crazy! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #11
Bevin and McConnell Bayard Nov 2019 #13
Maybe he's waiting. . . William Weehours Nov 2019 #7
Republicans are the sorest losers and the biggest whiners. llmart Nov 2019 #8
Republicans feel entitled to win, no matter what the voters want. Lonestarblue Nov 2019 #10
and if those 5000 votes are suddenly reversed, Beshear should refuse to accept them not_the_one Nov 2019 #15
Kentucky has 120 counties? rsdsharp Nov 2019 #16
We "only" have 67 here in PA BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #17
Locking JudyM Nov 2019 #18

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
1. Still looking for hanging chads
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:32 AM
Nov 2019

Still looking for the “magical” 5,000 votes that will suddenly be found to push Bevin ahead.

onetexan

(13,025 posts)
12. ah those pregnant chads LOL
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:24 AM
Nov 2019

Good one my friend. Love it that in KY of all places we'll have a Dem governor. Love it!

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
2. It will be amusing if the recount efforts show that he lost by MORE than originally reported.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:43 AM
Nov 2019

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
5. Would love to see that outcome!
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:47 AM
Nov 2019

cstanleytech

(26,251 posts)
14. Would even be more amusing if they found that 70000 to 120000 of the voters were entirely fraudulent
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:58 AM
Nov 2019

and that they were all votes in favor of Bevin and other Repugnants in the state.
Would also explain why so many Repugnants in the state legislature would want him to concede.

 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
3. moot point
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:45 AM
Nov 2019

if He wants to move on. He's moving on.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
4. A local summary of the recanvass process here.....
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:47 AM
Nov 2019
Election officials to double check vote totals in hotly contested Ky gov race
November 13, 2019 at 1:55 PM EST - Updated November 14 at 8:28 AM

See: https://www.wave3.com/2019/11/13/recanvass-kentucky-gubernatorial-election-results-requested-by-gov-bevin-set-thursday/

Once the recanvass is complete, the state board of elections has until Nov. 25 to certify the election results.

A candidate can contest the results only after the election board has completed certification. Should a candidate pursue a contest after certification, they must file a written notice citing specific grounds for the contest within 30 days of the election board's final action.

Once that notice is given, the Kentucky General Assembly would then be authorized to constitute a board to review the evidence and hear depositions. This board must consist of three state senators and eight state House representatives.

KY..........

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
6. Thank you!
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:52 AM
Nov 2019

I remember last week when CNN also had an article on what the next steps would be - https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/politics/what-is-a-recanvass/index.html

It seems the GOP have given up on Bevin, although I wouldn't trust them until the process is complete.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
9. Agreed. We're on pins and needles here 'till it's all over,.....
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:21 AM
Nov 2019

especially our teachers (eg, my daughter) and those low-income folks needing medical care. Unfortunately, due to the Legislature, our new governor will be highly restrained as to what he'll be able to accomplish and the thugs will be attacking him constantly.

I think a great number of Rethugs in KY despise Bevin as much as we do, but many held their noses and voted for him regardless. Party before people for them.

Way too much Rethug Kool-Aid dispensed in this state for far too long, thanks to McConnell, Fox and Limbaugh.

KY........

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
11. Well Andy has his dad to help navigate the crazy!
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:24 AM
Nov 2019


I remember Bevin's near-first act was to torpedo Kynect and that was a mess. I did just discover that Beshear was looking to re-create the state's own exchange and when reading about that, I found an article about my own state - PA - planning to do the same and just recently enacted legislation to do just that - https://www.healthinsurance.org/pennsylvania-state-health-insurance-exchange/ I didn't even hear anything about that on the news here (the state has been operating under the federal exchange). I think people had been glad when Wolf was elected back in 2014, where he at least restored the Medicaid expansion here after the previous GOP governor had refused it.

Bayard

(22,011 posts)
13. Bevin and McConnell
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:47 AM
Nov 2019

Both despised nationwide. Both need to be gone.

Bevin just can't believe he lost. We are not the herd of sheep he thought.

Hi from KY.

 

William Weehours

(59 posts)
7. Maybe he's waiting. . .
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:58 AM
Nov 2019

for Donnie to void the results via Royal Decree. (I'm actually only half-joking here.)

llmart

(15,534 posts)
8. Republicans are the sorest losers and the biggest whiners.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:10 AM
Nov 2019

And they had the nerve to label Democrats "snowflakes". Geez, look who're the snowflakes now, huh?

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
10. Republicans feel entitled to win, no matter what the voters want.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:22 AM
Nov 2019

Republicans in red states have gotten so used to winning through gerrymandering, voter suppression, and lying about their policies that they are enraged to lose. I remember a story from a couple of years ago (unfortunately, I don’t remember the specifics) reporting that the losing Republican was outraged and claimed publicly that Democrats have no right to rule. Republicans have indeed convinced themselves that they can easily cheat and establish themselves as the permanent one-party rulers.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
15. and if those 5000 votes are suddenly reversed, Beshear should refuse to accept them
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:08 PM
Nov 2019

and INSIST on an in-depth investigation of who was in control of those districts where the reversals came into play...

They can't win without cheating. If necessary, let's prove it.

rsdsharp

(9,146 posts)
16. Kentucky has 120 counties?
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:17 PM
Nov 2019

I always though Iowa's 99 counties were excessive, and we are physically bigger than Kentucky -- 58,272.81 sq mi to 40,408 sq mi (per Wikipedia).

The rationale for all of Iowa's counties was that no one would be farther than a half-day wagon ride from a county seat. What's Kentucky's excuse?

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
17. We "only" have 67 here in PA
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:25 PM
Nov 2019

and we are the 5th largest state by population!

Maybe KY had the same thought as Iowa with respect to creating counties - perhaps to take into consideration mining towns and large, single-entity-owned farm areas. Here in PA, the county seats are approximately in the center of each county.

JudyM

(29,206 posts)
18. Locking
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 01:19 PM
Nov 2019

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