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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:25 AM Nov 2019

Jordan: Republicans to subpoena whistleblower to testify in public hearing

Source: The Hill

Republicans intend to subpoena the government whistleblower to testify in the House's impeachment investigation into President Trump's dealings with Ukraine, according to Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio).

The effort is not likely to bear fruit, as Democrats have rejected the idea of ousting the anonymous figure, citing safety concerns, and they have veto power over any GOP subpoena requests for witness testimony.

--This breaking news report will be updated.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/469384-jordan-republicans-to-subpoena-whistleblower-to-testify-in-public-hearing

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Jordan: Republicans to subpoena whistleblower to testify in public hearing (Original Post) demmiblue Nov 2019 OP
This is absurd. They just want to frighten anyone going against Herr tRump. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2019 #1
This IS absurd. Especially since it's THEIR side and THEIR "dear leader" calimary Nov 2019 #42
Its not absurd, politically. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #54
The President can confront his accuser The Wizard Nov 2019 #61
I'm not looking at it from the world of reality we live in LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #63
limpbaugh saying he's getting donald junior on his show now, end of 1st hr 12:55 EST certainot Nov 2019 #57
The smell of desperation is growing. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2019 #2
Desperation is right! Just watch, they will try to depose President Obama, Hillary Clinton.... machoneman Nov 2019 #6
Yeah, wouldn't surprise me if they tried that, too. calimary Nov 2019 #43
They have the character of people living in Nazi occupied europe madaboutharry Nov 2019 #3
They are completely depraved vlyons Nov 2019 #49
They are totally childish. Scarsdale Nov 2019 #52
Who votes for them? vlyons Nov 2019 #59
Call to journalists..need to investigate the allegations against Jim Jordan while HS wrestling coach Perseus Nov 2019 #4
Gym Jordan shuns the jacket so he can show his muscles. Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2019 #68
The committee chairman has to agree for them to subpoena anyone YessirAtsaFact Nov 2019 #5
They WANT to be overruled, it's political theater and will give them talking points groundloop Nov 2019 #8
Sadly, I agree DeminPennswoods Nov 2019 #55
How can they subpoena him/her if they don't know its identity? If they DO know its identity.... George II Nov 2019 #7
tRump Junior tweeted it groundloop Nov 2019 #9
I know. I was being rhetorical, if they know the identity they should go after the lawbreaker... George II Nov 2019 #10
Rhetorical is above my ability to process this morning groundloop Nov 2019 #15
I know how you feel. Have some covfefe, I hear it's stronger. George II Nov 2019 #16
Yeah, but I hear it also leads to incontinence and wearing adult diapers pecosbob Nov 2019 #24
Unfortunately, divulging the whistleblower's identity isn't a crime onenote Nov 2019 #22
Who says that the correct person? Chicago1980 Nov 2019 #19
Exactly! The_Counsel Nov 2019 #35
According to republicans, subpoenas can be ignored anyway. keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #11
Hey Republican fools in Congress! vishnura Nov 2019 #12
The Whistleblower Law permits this? bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #13
I Don't Think It Does.... The_Counsel Nov 2019 #37
Good luck with that, Gym Jacketoff. kysrsoze Nov 2019 #14
More Like "Gym Jagoff," But Whatever... The_Counsel Nov 2019 #56
Whistleblowers act like an anonymous police tip line. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2019 #17
TheHill can't write. "outing", not "ousting". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #18
...and they're propagandistic toilet paper pecosbob Nov 2019 #25
The desperation is getting worse. gademocrat7 Nov 2019 #20
Kabuki theater. They know their attempt will be disallowed by the Democrats. It's all for show. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #21
Prescisely empedocles Nov 2019 #27
And it was the Republicans who changed the rules giving the Chairman subpoena discretion. grantcart Nov 2019 #36
This is their defense -- just like Mueller's Russia investigation -- the deep-state defense. It's KPN Nov 2019 #23
Jordan is just beating his chest Baked Potato Nov 2019 #26
He's beating something Mr.Bill Nov 2019 #53
Fine, subpoena him or her. grumpyduck Nov 2019 #28
Turn about is fair play mindem Nov 2019 #29
Witness Intimidation BlueIdaho Nov 2019 #30
Republicans changed House Rules giving Chairman ultimate Subpoena power grantcart Nov 2019 #38
Beware the law of unintended consequences... BlueIdaho Nov 2019 #40
The statute protects the whistleblower's identity dlk Nov 2019 #31
Anything is "Fair Game" for the Greedy One Percent (GOP) Party n/t aggiesal Nov 2019 #32
They should then sue him duforsure Nov 2019 #33
I call that witness intimation wildman76 Nov 2019 #34
I believe the whistleblower can essentially refuse to appear.... FarPoint Nov 2019 #39
THe WB Should Refuse To Show Up Just Like All THe Others Who Have Me. Nov 2019 #41
The whistleblower doesn't have to honor Jordan's subpoena. Period. ancianita Nov 2019 #44
More GOP witness intimidation (witness tampering). They are Nazi scumbags. nt SunSeeker Nov 2019 #45
It's a political stunt pandr32 Nov 2019 #46
gym jordan is a p.o.s. Marthe48 Nov 2019 #47
Let them subpeona and when she/he doesn't show let's see SayItLoud Nov 2019 #48
Didn't need Deep Throat's identity to investigate a crime elias7 Nov 2019 #50
If the guy republicans named as the whistleblower is actually not the whistleblower blueinredohio Nov 2019 #51
Excuse me, so the Repugs who ignore subpoenas think issuing a subpoena on an unknown will bear fruit lettucebe Nov 2019 #58
The minority The Wizard Nov 2019 #60
Old Gym is kissing up to Trump Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2019 #62
But he can refuse, right? WillParkinson Nov 2019 #64
from the sound of the it it's unlikely he will given Dems have already cited safety concerns onetexan Nov 2019 #66
Hell i'd bring in 10 of them. (if there is 10) bluestarone Nov 2019 #65
Not going to happen Gothmog Nov 2019 #67

calimary

(81,220 posts)
42. This IS absurd. Especially since it's THEIR side and THEIR "dear leader"
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:33 PM
Nov 2019

who’ve established defying subpoenas as a standard battle tactic.

Don’t go whining about it when your favorite stalling stunt is turned around and used on you, cowards.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
54. Its not absurd, politically.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:44 PM
Nov 2019

Also predictable. This is a no-brainer for them. If Democrats agreed...let the tar and feathering begin. If they don't....which I'm sure they expected, it will be used to create headlines on Fox News and for Moscow Mitch to bleat about. How Democrats are denying the President, or his lawyers, from even questioning his accuser. Or how suspicious it all is where this anonymous deep state operative just can make up shit, fake news, behind some curtain that the Democrats are keeping them shut behind, from them and the public.

I know that's not the right picture, but that is what they will say, and that is why its not absurd for them to ask. They have a very low threshold of mental competence to cater to; whomever is remaining as a Trump supporter.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
63. I'm not looking at it from the world of reality we live in
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:01 PM
Nov 2019

But from the world of instant hit pieces to be used in the moment by Trump and his enablers.
They won't be volunteering that bit of information.
These are the people that stormed the legislature with pitch forks and cell phones to demand access when their own fellow R's were inside.
These are the people that insisted that a Republican led investigation was a Democratic deep state coup.
These people would use anything and everything out of context or not. Its not for us educated liberals. Its for their cult zombies to latch onto. If you think Fox News is going to add your caveat you are mistaken.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
57. limpbaugh saying he's getting donald junior on his show now, end of 1st hr 12:55 EST
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:59 PM
Nov 2019

no doubt to name the whistleblower again - maybe he'll show up in the second hr

limbaugh blasted the name off 600 stations on his friday show and now mentioning the name over and over, going to post his pics

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
6. Desperation is right! Just watch, they will try to depose President Obama, Hillary Clinton....
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:41 AM
Nov 2019

Eric Holder, Bob Mueller, Joe and Hunter Biden and more Democrats, failing of course and thinking this will still somehow advance their crooked cause. They will also say that this stonewalling effort somehow equals (and negates) Trump's own efforts to stonewall any WH or Cabinet witnesses. Watch for it...................

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
3. They have the character of people living in Nazi occupied europe
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:33 AM
Nov 2019

who turned their neighbors over to the gestapo.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
52. They are totally childish.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:28 PM
Nov 2019

Are there any adults in the gop, or are most of them trust fund spoiled little pricks? Who votes for these incompetent, middle school hoodlums?

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
59. Who votes for them?
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:52 PM
Nov 2019

Selfish assholes, who don't want a single penny of taxes going to help anyone but themselves. They don't want to fund public schools, community hospitals, infrastructure repair and upgrade, food stamps, community colleges, child care, etc etc etc.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
4. Call to journalists..need to investigate the allegations against Jim Jordan while HS wrestling coach
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:37 AM
Nov 2019

That clown's mouth needs to be shut...he must be up to his neck compromised by the creature and Russia, he is desperate humiliating himself at every turn, and journalists, while you are at it stop at a Thriftco or Goodwill store and buy Jordan a coat.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
68. Gym Jordan shuns the jacket so he can show his muscles.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 09:29 PM
Nov 2019

He still thinks of himself as a jock, so it's only natural to want to show how well-built (he thinks) he is. Walking Beefcake. He's nothing but a barnacle on trumpie's ass.

And YES, he should be investigated about the scandal at OSU. He's in it up to his bowl-haircut.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
8. They WANT to be overruled, it's political theater and will give them talking points
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:44 AM
Nov 2019

SEE! SEE! SEE! Them meanie Democrats wouldn't let us interrogate the whistle-blower, therefore the system is rigged against us poor, law abiding repubs.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
55. Sadly, I agree
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:55 PM
Nov 2019

It's all designed to feed the great conspiracy theory that Fox News viewers and the rw/cultists will eat up.

George II

(67,782 posts)
7. How can they subpoena him/her if they don't know its identity? If they DO know its identity....
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:44 AM
Nov 2019

....who violated the law by telling them?

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. I know. I was being rhetorical, if they know the identity they should go after the lawbreaker...
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:48 AM
Nov 2019

....not the whistleblower.

trump jr. should be charged.

The_Counsel

(1,660 posts)
35. Exactly!
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:24 PM
Nov 2019

I actually WANT Gym & Co. to subpoena who they THINK the whistleblower is, Schiff to OK it, and then the alleged whistleblower to say: "uh... I think you have the wrong number..."

Comedy genius!

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
11. According to republicans, subpoenas can be ignored anyway.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:50 AM
Nov 2019

According to republicans, subpoenas can be ignored anyway.

vishnura

(247 posts)
12. Hey Republican fools in Congress!
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:54 AM
Nov 2019

It not about the whistle blower, its about you and that orange s**tstain selling out the US.
The whistle blower is the true hero here. So Jordan, investigate what happened in the gym in Ohio.

17. Whistleblowers act like an anonymous police tip line.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 11:26 AM
Nov 2019

If ordinary citizens had to identify themselves whenever they provide a lead, the number of cases that get solved would decrease exponentially. Who wants a murderer who's out on bail to know your name, address and telephone number?

The GOP efforts to out the whistleblower in this case isn't about Trump's impeachable actions. It's about deterring future whistleblowers who have information about other illegal actions within Fat Donnie's administration. The Dems ought to point this out every time Trump, Jordan, Nunes, et al, bleat their ignorant demand.

If they out the whistleblower, then experienced web-searchers should be able to dig out and publish the personal information of every GOP congresscritter and RW broadcast personality who insisted on disclosure of the whistleblower's name, including home and cell phone numbers, the addresses of their primary and additional homes, the name of their wife's employer, their church, their social security number, driver license number, and financial information like checking and savings accounts, as well as credit card numbers, and any crime they have committed, including speeding tickets. Let them see how it feels.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
36. And it was the Republicans who changed the rules giving the Chairman subpoena discretion.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:26 PM
Nov 2019

They intende to use it against President Clinton

KPN

(15,642 posts)
23. This is their defense -- just like Mueller's Russia investigation -- the deep-state defense. It's
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 11:45 AM
Nov 2019

all they've got -- fabricated conspiracy theories that their idiotic base lap up like ice cream. That's what and all that they provide to America's white working class -- ice cream (like cake).

It ain't gonna work. Too many have woken up to their scam and tRump's corruption. Too many still care about the good old USA and it's Constitution. They may make the poor white working class feel better with this defense, but overall, it will be the GOP's and tRump's demise.

mindem

(1,580 posts)
29. Turn about is fair play
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:18 PM
Nov 2019

nobody needs to answer any repuke subpoenas, they set the no-show standard for subpoenas. It's only fair.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
38. Republicans changed House Rules giving Chairman ultimate Subpoena power
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:28 PM
Nov 2019

They were going to use it against President Clinton

dlk

(11,552 posts)
31. The statute protects the whistleblower's identity
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:20 PM
Nov 2019

This Republican subpoena nonsense is more proof of their double-standards and lawlessness.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
33. They should then sue him
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:21 PM
Nov 2019

Then in court under oath he will have to testify to everything he knows or risk his freedom by lying and going to jail. Civil lawsuit also should follow for damages . By then the Democrats should have full control and charge Jordan.

FarPoint

(12,336 posts)
39. I believe the whistleblower can essentially refuse to appear....
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:29 PM
Nov 2019

Whistleblower protection act...plus, a common behavior of this administration....Oh, does not the Committe Chair process all subpoena's? Needs Chairman's approval?

Me.

(35,454 posts)
41. THe WB Should Refuse To Show Up Just Like All THe Others Who Have
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:32 PM
Nov 2019

and if Gym seeks a remedy that same remedy can then be applied to the WH refusniks

pandr32

(11,579 posts)
46. It's a political stunt
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:47 PM
Nov 2019

They will use it, and the fact it will be vetoed, for as much mileage as they can.

Marthe48

(16,935 posts)
47. gym jordan is a p.o.s.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:50 PM
Nov 2019

He wouldn't blow the whistle on a child molester, but is willing to ruin the whistleblower's life. jordan is the worst kind of coward and powerbroker wannabe. A weak man corrupting his weak hold on power.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
48. Let them subpeona and when she/he doesn't show let's see
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 12:54 PM
Nov 2019

how they want to handle the no show. Then do exactly what these POS's want to do to every one of those who have ignored Congressional subpoenas.

Tiny Tim, Tiny Hands tRUMP and now TINY GYM....(5 foot 4 inch tiny GYM; and he's actually shorter than that).

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
51. If the guy republicans named as the whistleblower is actually not the whistleblower
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 01:10 PM
Nov 2019

He should testify before congress, then when they don't get any information because he has none he should sue the hell out of republicans.

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
58. Excuse me, so the Repugs who ignore subpoenas think issuing a subpoena on an unknown will bear fruit
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:39 PM
Nov 2019

What the actual F?

WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
64. But he can refuse, right?
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:10 PM
Nov 2019

I mean, it's good enough for the Republicans, so it's good enough for everyone.

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