A divided House backs impeachment probe of Trump
Last edited Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:07 PM - Edit history (1)
Source: Washington Post
A divided House approved legislation Thursday formally authorizing and articulating guidelines for the next phase of its impeachment inquiry, a move that signaled Democrats are on course to bring charges against President Trump later this year.
The 232-196 vote, which hewed closely to party lines, was likely to fuel the partisan fighting that has accompanied every stage of the impeachment probe and much of the Trump presidency. Nearly all Democrats backed the resolution, and House Republicans, who spent weeks clamoring for such a vote, opposed it. At issue is whether Trump abused the power of his office to pressure a foreign leader to investigate his domestic political rivals.
In remarks before the vote, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) described the impeachment inquiry as a "solemn" and "prayerful" process -- "not cause for any glee or comfort." At the same time, Pelosi said, "I don't know why Republicans are afraid of the truth."
"Every member should support the American people hearing the facts for themselves," she said in a floor speech. "That is what this vote is about. It's about the truth. And what is at stake in all of this is nothing less than our democracy."
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/house-to-vote-on-rules-governing-next-phase-of-trump-impeachment-inquiry/2019/10/31/bc2f5e7a-fbcc-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html
The vote was 232-196 with 4 NV (including 1 D).
Full original headline: A divided House passes resolution on impeachment inquiry, setting stage for televised hearings and release of witness testimony
Original article -
The resolution, passed on a near party-line vote, outlines the next steps in the impeachment inquiry of President Trump. Trump and Republicans had complained about the closed-door proceedings, now in their sixth week. Democrats have said the testimony shows the president used military aid to Ukraine as leverage to force the country to investigate his political rivals.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)groundloop
(11,519 posts)THAT must be used against them in their bid for reelection.
"In the end, Reps. Collin Peterson (D-Minn.) and Jeff Van Drew (D-N.J.), who represent Republican-leaning districts, opposed it.
Rep. Joe Cunningham (D-S.C.), one of the few Trump-district Democrats who has been reluctant about backing an impeachment inquiry, voted yes.
aggiesal
(8,914 posts)regarding Impeachment.
Butterflylady
(3,543 posts)And you can throw in giving up power. T
They are not there to serve the constitution they're there t serve themselves.
mysteryowl
(7,383 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)I am speculating maybe Van Drew and someone else speculated one might be Gabbard since early on, she was critical of it.
mysteryowl
(7,383 posts)Collin Peterson - Minnesota
Jefferson Van Drew - New Jersey
BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)(I figured Van Drew as one of them)
mysteryowl
(7,383 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)but didn't get chance - was refreshing waiting for WaPo to update their article!
mysteryowl
(7,383 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)The resolution still would have passed, and it would have helped tremendously in holding her seat in Congress.
On a personal level I'm happy, but I do strongly suspect this will be used against her, and once again I'll have a shitbag rep in my district come 2021..
yaesu
(8,020 posts)than Obama did at this time in the campaign, every penny spent on facebook advertising is getting him much more back in donations. He is using this money to take out is opponents and to bribe, interfere with the impeachment. We are dealing with a mobbed up criminal.
theaocp
(4,237 posts)Stand up and FIGHT! People respect strength. The truth is on our side. No cowering.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)A number of representatives that have given us this majority just put their seats in jeopardy for a resolution that may effect impeachment, but is highly unlikely to pass the Senate.
I don't know who your Rep is, but I fought very fucking hard last year to help get mine elected. For the first time in my adult life, I have a Representative that actually represents me. It's the first time since the 1960's when George HW Bush took that seat that a member of the Democratic Party has held it. Part of that was due to the Beto effect of 2018.
Already on KHOU and KTRK her opposition and PAC's are running ad's that she broke her campaign promise and supported Nancy Pelosi as House speaker.
Of course they'd make up shit, but it won't stick nearly as much as the truth here.
We could have STILL had the votes needed to pass HR660 for the rules, AND protected a fair number of the most vulnerable seats.
theaocp
(4,237 posts)We don't get respect by cowering away from this vote that was "fought very fucking hard" for.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)djacq
(1,634 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)(ETA - and congrats in advance when you hit the 1K post mark!!! )
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)and they will.
When we see that, the disapproval level of trump/gop will go to the levels we need to squash GOP and trump in Nov.
BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)I can see Marlboro Man pleading the 5th but others may decide to go through self-immolation before they bother - UNLESS they get some sort of immunity (even if limited).
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,158 posts)Republicans hope to make this go away by suppressing the truth. Covering it up. Denying it. Projecting. It is oppressive to coerce others by promulgating and defending lies. The American people deserve to know how their government and country has been stolen. We Democrats, our leaders in Congress, are there. But we have a lot of work to do to overcome this shroud of lies that protect Trump and the entire Republican Party.
I am not confident of our chances. One little noticed outcome might be that it all fails, that Trump is reelected, but that the public just grows tired of it all and their style of governing fades over election cycles. Call it a backup wish-plan. We are in uncharted territory.
BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)was what happened with the 2008 election - i.e., the result became the epitome of being "fed up" with the GOP and Shrub and the wars and obviously what was then an incoming severe recession.
They were so fed up in fact, that they elected a black man to the Presidency. So the potential is there.
IronLionZion
(45,440 posts)Amash and Gabbard voted Yes.
If Amash were still a Republican, he would be the only R vote.
BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)(but I remember when he switched)
NCjack
(10,279 posts)business and I thought he was in the House. I guess that senators sticking their noses into House business just doesn't work out for them.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)I guess the optics of her voting 'No' wouldn't look good on her monumental presidential run.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)Angry Staffer@AngrierWHStaff·50m
I demand Nervous Nancy holds a vote on impeachment!
- House holds vote.
- Vote passes.
Link to tweet
BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)And yes I was eating and drinking something when I read that!
iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)that "the witch" has been caught, and "the hunt" is over!
All the witch does now is cry and complain about how unfair it is to be caught.
Thekaspervote
(32,765 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)testimony, the GOPers are going to act like loud fools. That's all they got. GOPers are trained and only have one mind while lusting for mo money and mo power, democracy be damn.
BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)helps to limit the zoo-like atmosphere that the Gymsuit Jordans and Mark Me-me-me-dows, and Matt Grates, and Louis Gocarts love to promote and engage in. It may not completely stop the circus but it will help keep the process moving.
wryter2000
(46,042 posts)That would make the hearings more effective.
BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)and there was a companion resolution - H.R. 661 that authorized paid and/or pro bono private counsel for the House's Office of General Counsel in support of the impeachment.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-116hres661ih/pdf/BILLS-116hres661ih.pdf (PDF)
wryter2000
(46,042 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)I say they should scream it till they bust their vocal chords. And Trump should tweet it till it looks like Alfred Hitchcocks The Birds.
Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)Madame Speaker!
llmart
(15,537 posts)"House Republicans, who spent weeks clamoring for such a vote, opposed it."
Maybe it shows some people how hypocritical they are.
bluestarone
(16,937 posts)0 RETHUG votes for AMERICA!
wryter2000
(46,042 posts)Could they honestly expect the vote to be unanimous? What an idiotic word to use.
BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)I heard the similar on my local news radio station (CBS affiliate) this afternoon - they used the term "sharply divided".
I suppose the media decided not to use the term "partisan" which is over-used itself.
wryter2000
(46,042 posts)Republicans have no argument
BumRushDaShow
(128,958 posts)outside of whatever is convenient to "invoke" at the moment.
Midnight Writer
(21,761 posts)I am not joking.