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BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 09:07 AM Oct 2019

Back-to-back court hearings could set tone for impeachment inquiry

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by JudyM (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)Two federal judges in a Washington courthouse that stands between the US Capitol and the White House will consider on Thursday afternoon whether they can force witnesses close to President Donald Trump to testify in the House's impeachment inquiry. As the House votes on its rules for the impeachment effort, the back-to-back hearings could be the deciding factor in how much evidence Democrats are able to gather.

The first, about former White House counsel Don McGahn's refusal to testify this spring, will be a meaty, legally complicated argument about executive privilege that could last hours.

The second hearing, about former National Security official Charles Kupperman not appearing for his subpoenaed testimony on Monday, could set the tone for how fast the court system may move on major impeachment-related questions. Both are central to the House's impeachment efforts and are part of the most significant clashes between the branches of government in years.

The White House has sought to limit the ability of witnesses to testify, citing executive privilege. Should that defense be shattered, it could open the floodgates to Trump officials and associates forced to appear before lawmakers. And the ability -- or desire -- of judges to act swiftly may determine whether the courts play a significant role as referee in the impeachment fight, or, if they dally, have little influence at all.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/31/politics/impeachment-court-hearings-mcgahn-kupperman/index.html



Per the OP article, the case with McGahn will be at 2 pm in front of a judge appointed by Obama (Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson). The Kupperman case will be at 4 pm in front of a judge appointed by Shrub (Judge Richard Leon).
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Back-to-back court hearings could set tone for impeachment inquiry (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 OP
the constitution empowers the House to undertake such investigations and I highly doubt any beachbumbob Oct 2019 #1
That is the hope. BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #2
EP can not be used to cover up underlying crime and that has been decided before. beachbumbob Oct 2019 #3
Oh I know BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #4
I have faith in Roberts as this is the very heart of our democracy and our constitution beachbumbob Oct 2019 #5
True - so far Roberts has ruled towards the "(right of)-center" moreso than the others BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #6
Locking. JudyM Oct 2019 #7
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. the constitution empowers the House to undertake such investigations and I highly doubt any
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:15 AM
Oct 2019

federal court is going to block their power, and if they do, we are in real trouble as a country

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
2. That is the hope.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:17 AM
Oct 2019

The issue would revolve around the "executive privilege" thing.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
3. EP can not be used to cover up underlying crime and that has been decided before.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:19 AM
Oct 2019

The House defines the crime under impeachment process and does not have to be criminal or civil to be impeached

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
4. Oh I know
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:20 AM
Oct 2019

but that won't stop the other side form arguing that kind of nonsense and hope they can prevail with the roll-of-the-dice whim of Roberts.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
5. I have faith in Roberts as this is the very heart of our democracy and our constitution
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:23 AM
Oct 2019

some people don;t care about legacy, I don't think Roberts is one of those.

Besides, the SC doesn't have to take this up, they can just say its already been decided

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
6. True - so far Roberts has ruled towards the "(right of)-center" moreso than the others
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:26 AM
Oct 2019

And technically they should refuse it. But then we saw what was done with the Voting Rights Act from him too, so some things are roll-of-the-dice where he will pick his battles it seems.

JudyM

(29,122 posts)
7. Locking.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:23 PM
Oct 2019

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