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UpInArms

(51,253 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 03:19 PM Oct 2019

'Not qualified' rating and accusation from American Bar Association moves Trump nominee to tears

Source: CNN

Washington(CNN) A federal appeals court nominee broke down in tears during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday, reacting to a scathing letter against his confirmation by the American Bar Association after it conducted 60 interviews and concluded that he was "not qualified" for the judicial branch.

Lawrence J.C. VanDyke grew emotional, with his face turning red as he defended himself against the letter's conclusions that he could would not treat LGBTQ litigants fairly.

"I do not believe that," VanDyke said. "It is a fundamental belief of mine that all people are created in the image of God," adding, "they should all be treated with dignity and respect."

... snip ...

"Mr. VanDyke's accomplishments are offset by the assessments of interviewees that Mr. VanDyke is arrogant, lazy, an ideologue, and lacking in knowledge of the day-to-day practice including procedural rules," William C. Hubbard, chair of the ABA's standing committee on the federal judiciary, wrote. "There was a theme that the nominee lacks humility, has an 'entitlement' temperament, does not have an open mind, and does not always have a commitment to being candid and truthful."

Read more: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/10/30/politics/american-bar-association-nominees-vandyke/index.html



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'Not qualified' rating and accusation from American Bar Association moves Trump nominee to tears (Original Post) UpInArms Oct 2019 OP
Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2019 #1
Probably a trained performance like with Alito's wife. n/t MarcA Oct 2019 #19
"Mr. VanDyke's accomplishments are offset by the assessments of interviewees.... The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #2
It is clear why he was nominated by trump. n/t spike jones Oct 2019 #50
The letter sounds like it's describing the current "boofer" in the SCROTUS flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #3
you mean this one? joost5 Oct 2019 #44
Yeah--THAT ugly, whiny futhermucker. lastlib Oct 2019 #46
does not always have a commitment to being candid and truthful keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #4
That's Lawyer-ese for 'this fucker wouldn't tell the Truth if you gave him the Sereum first.'. Volaris Oct 2019 #48
Hmmmm...sounds like the recent Supreme Court judge that got confirmed (Brett Kavanaugh)... SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #5
Yes not fooled Oct 2019 #13
Yes! Thanks for reminding me of this ... I've have heard of this society, don't think much of it, SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #15
I think there's a link between them and Opus Dei, too. LuvNewcastle Oct 2019 #23
Bigtime stuffmatters Oct 2019 #27
My thoughts exactly..Usually Maxheader Dec 2019 #76
A perfect clone of Justice Boof. lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #6
So, the qualifications to be on the Supreme Court Scarsdale Oct 2019 #7
+1 crickets Oct 2019 #55
It won't matter. Republicans will confirm him anyway to a lifetime seat. Arkansas Granny Oct 2019 #8
Yes they will. mountain grammy Oct 2019 #22
When is the ABA going to write and send a letter about Barr? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2019 #9
+100! Rhiannon12866 Oct 2019 #49
They'll approve him, anyway wryter2000 Oct 2019 #10
Of course they will durablend Oct 2019 #16
'Entitlement'? A TRUMP nominee? Perish the thought!! /s Grokenstein Oct 2019 #11
Van Dyke, you got it wrong. luvtheGWN Oct 2019 #45
Those are Trump's basic requirements when hiring the best people IronLionZion Oct 2019 #12
Yep! A person in tRump's image. Twins/clones. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2019 #28
Sorry buster, but elleng Oct 2019 #14
We can have democratic governance or judges appointed for life But MarcA Oct 2019 #17
Truth hurts. nt SunSeeker Oct 2019 #18
Pissed would be my guess WanderingLiberal Oct 2019 #20
Probably tears of joy that MontanaMama Oct 2019 #21
Agreed. I thought that should have been a disqualifier right there crickets Oct 2019 #56
If only Brett Kavanaugh ... Oh never mind. Hekate Oct 2019 #24
I have no sympathy for you! FM123 Oct 2019 #25
Boy, Republicans sure cry a lot when they get busted. Marie Marie Oct 2019 #26
And yet listen to their remarks about women being too emotional Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2019 #54
how about instead of calling on "GOD" barbtries Oct 2019 #29
Right. Harker Oct 2019 #32
Or the wrong kind of Christian keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #51
Good point. Harker Oct 2019 #53
sounds like brett kavanaugh dawn5651 Oct 2019 #30
Adding a link. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #31
When did... Grins Oct 2019 #33
His biggest qualification: He is a loyal Trumper now and will alway be one. nt NCjack Oct 2019 #72
Trump would nominate a law school drop-out sakabatou Oct 2019 #34
Sounds like we've found "Squee" NT jayschool2013 Oct 2019 #35
A "not qualified" from the bar infullview Oct 2019 #36
It's not you. It's me. No. Wait! It is you! Grins Oct 2019 #37
If "conservatives" is understood to mean fascists FiveGoodMen Oct 2019 #38
Modern Fascists work hard to destroy independent organizations DBoon Oct 2019 #69
Sounds like a real loser--someone that Repugs will confirm no doubt! riversedge Oct 2019 #39
Sounds like EVERY Trump nominee. bitterross Oct 2019 #40
Wow..... iluvtennis Oct 2019 #41
But, those are all the "qualities" tRUMP looks for when hiring....nt SayItLoud Oct 2019 #42
Boo hoo cp Oct 2019 #43
Nothing left to do but cry. Cousin Dupree Oct 2019 #47
It was cringe-worthy.... VarryOn Oct 2019 #52
Fuck me. I bowled a 290 once. 3Hotdogs Oct 2019 #59
Wow! ABA just kind of laid it out, didn't they. paleotn Oct 2019 #57
Another fragile conservative crybaby. Julian Englis Oct 2019 #58
What is sad here is that Trump keeps nominating people who, like himself, PatrickforO Oct 2019 #60
You're right; Trump keeps nominating people who are cut from the same cloth as he is. politicaljunkie41910 Oct 2019 #66
Trump is neither smart enough nor interested enough stopdiggin Oct 2019 #70
Hmm. Wasn't McGahn one of the Republican leaders who met at that PatrickforO Oct 2019 #74
Saw your post much earlier, UpInArms, but couldn't stay away from it! Had to return, Judi Lynn Oct 2019 #61
He doesn't look much like judge material to me UpInArms Oct 2019 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Oct 2019 #62
Crocodile tears DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #64
He reminds me of the RWNJ city attorney murielm99 Oct 2019 #65
Either they scream outrage, cite God, or scare citing they will get retribution benld74 Oct 2019 #67
Trump nominated an unqualified bigot? I'm shocked! Flaleftist Oct 2019 #68
I saw his theatrics last night. IMO it was an ACT! JA couldn't even pull off a convincig act! napi21 Oct 2019 #71
Crybaby m$&ther:f&@cker. nt live love laugh Oct 2019 #73
Kick ck4829 Dec 2019 #75
He was just confirmed. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #77
thanks ... can you please UpInArms Dec 2019 #78

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
2. "Mr. VanDyke's accomplishments are offset by the assessments of interviewees....
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 03:23 PM
Oct 2019

.... that Mr. VanDyke is arrogant, lazy, an ideologue, and lacking in knowledge of the day-to-day practice including procedural rules," William C. Hubbard, chair of the ABA's standing committee on the federal judiciary, wrote. "There was a theme that the nominee lacks humility, has an 'entitlement' temperament, does not have an open mind, and does not always have a commitment to being candid and truthful."

He should fit right in with the other Trumpies.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
3. The letter sounds like it's describing the current "boofer" in the SCROTUS
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 03:24 PM
Oct 2019

Too bad the ABA couldn't have saved us from that assclown.

lastlib

(22,981 posts)
46. Yeah--THAT ugly, whiny futhermucker.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:58 PM
Oct 2019

GAWD, I wish you hadn't posted that pic--I almost put my fist thru my monitor!

Volaris

(10,260 posts)
48. That's Lawyer-ese for 'this fucker wouldn't tell the Truth if you gave him the Sereum first.'.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:14 PM
Oct 2019

Coming from the ABA, about one of their own....that's a pretty fucking epic takedown.

SWBTATTReg

(21,859 posts)
5. Hmmmm...sounds like the recent Supreme Court judge that got confirmed (Brett Kavanaugh)...
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 03:25 PM
Oct 2019

what is it, that there is some sort of club or something that these scumbags all belong to, called the 'crier's club' or something?

SWBTATTReg

(21,859 posts)
15. Yes! Thanks for reminding me of this ... I've have heard of this society, don't think much of it,
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 03:41 PM
Oct 2019

since so many members have distorted the meaning of the word 'conservative' to fit into their support of rump and his idiotic policies...

Maxheader

(4,366 posts)
76. My thoughts exactly..Usually
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 01:32 PM
Dec 2019


wingers of great power and authority don't break down until they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar...

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
7. So, the qualifications to be on the Supreme Court
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 03:25 PM
Oct 2019

are lower than this job? That is why Kavanagh was allowed to be confirmed while being a complete ass?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,154 posts)
9. When is the ABA going to write and send a letter about Barr?
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 03:28 PM
Oct 2019

They should be demanding he be disbarred as well.

Grokenstein

(5,707 posts)
11. 'Entitlement'? A TRUMP nominee? Perish the thought!! /s
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 03:30 PM
Oct 2019
"I do not believe that," VanDyke said. "It is a fundamental belief of mine that all people are created in the image of God," adding, "they should all be treated with dignity and respect."

Okay, if that's coming from a Trump nom, you know it's an act.

"There was a theme that the nominee lacks humility, has an 'entitlement' temperament, does not have an open mind, and does not always have a commitment to being candid and truthful."

That's much more like it!

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
45. Van Dyke, you got it wrong.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:53 PM
Oct 2019

God was created by man, in the image of man, or at least your so-called God was.

IronLionZion

(45,261 posts)
12. Those are Trump's basic requirements when hiring the best people
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 03:36 PM
Oct 2019

"arrogant, lazy, an ideologue, and lacking in knowledge of the day-to-day practice including procedural rules"

"lacks humility, has an 'entitlement' temperament, does not have an open mind, and does not always have a commitment to being candid and truthful."

could easily describe the big boss man himself

elleng

(130,156 posts)
14. Sorry buster, but
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 03:38 PM
Oct 2019

'arrogant, lazy, an ideologue, and lacking in knowledge of the day-to-day practice including procedural rules' doesn't pass OUR rules and needs, regardless of what you may think about your 'God.'

MontanaMama

(23,242 posts)
21. Probably tears of joy that
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 03:55 PM
Oct 2019

he's an unqualified hack and is going to get the job anyway. It curls my hair to hear any judicial nominee mention God in their testimony.

crickets

(25,896 posts)
56. Agreed. I thought that should have been a disqualifier right there
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:53 PM
Oct 2019

but unfortunately, it's likely one of the reasons why he was nominated.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
54. And yet listen to their remarks about women being too emotional
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:41 PM
Oct 2019

to hold positions in the upper levels of government. We heard a lot of this BS during the 2016 campain (misspelling intended) about HRC.

barbtries

(28,702 posts)
29. how about instead of calling on "GOD"
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 04:20 PM
Oct 2019

you look at the law? That should provide your marching orders. dignity and respect, huh - how about equality?!

that assessment is probably why trump nominated him.

Harker

(13,880 posts)
32. Right.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 04:34 PM
Oct 2019

I'd hate to stand (or sit) before him as a known Buddhist, or as an atheist. At all, really.

mahatmakanejeeves

(56,897 posts)
31. Adding a link.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 04:21 PM
Oct 2019

From 'Not qualified' rating and accusation from American Bar Association moves Trump nominee to tears

Hat tip, Joe.My.God:



Former Hate Group Staffer “Sobs” At Accusation He Wouldn’t Treat LGBTs Fairly As Federal Judge [VIDEO]
October 30, 2019

Politico reports:

A federal appeals court nominee broke down in tears during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday, reacting to a scathing letter against his confirmation by the American Bar Association after it conducted 60 interviews and concluded that he was “not qualified” for the judicial branch. Lawrence J.C. VanDyke grew emotional, with his face turning red as he defended himself against the letter’s conclusions that he could would not treat LGBTQ litigants fairly.

{snip}

.@ABAesq's politically motivated & biased attempts to smear the qualifications of an impressive and qualified judicial nominee are not within the best interests of the American people. After my Q&A w VanDyke today at @senjudiciary, I look forward his confirmation.



Senator Josh @HawleyMO rips the American Bar Association’s smears of judicial nominee Lawrence VanDyke as anti-LGBTQ



'Not qualified' rating and accusation from American Bar Association moves Trump nominee to tears

By Ariane de Vogue and Alex Rogers, CNN

Updated 1:31 PM ET, Wed October 30, 2019

Washington (CNN) -- A federal appeals court nominee broke down in tears during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday, reacting to a scathing letter against his confirmation by the American Bar Association after it conducted 60 interviews and concluded that he was "not qualified" for the judicial branch.

Lawrence J.C. VanDyke grew emotional, with his face turning red as he defended himself against the letter's conclusions that he could would not treat LGBTQ litigants fairly.

"I do not believe that," VanDyke said. "It is a fundamental belief of mine that all people are created in the image of God," adding, "they should all be treated with dignity and respect."

The rare outburst comes as the ABA is under continued attack from conservatives who question its methodology and argue that the group that has rated potential nominees for decades is biased against conservatives. It also comes as the President and Senate Republicans have pushed through a record number of judicial nominees as Democrats have questioned their qualifications.

President Donald Trump nominated VanDyke, who currently serves as a deputy assistant attorney general for the Environment and Natural Resources Division at the Department of Justice, last month for the post on the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals. The President has repeatedly attacked the liberal-leaning 9th Circuit for rulings that have blocked administration initiatives, especially on immigration.

The ABA on Tuesday night issued a blistering analysis of the nomination.

"Mr. VanDyke's accomplishments are offset by the assessments of interviewees that Mr. VanDyke is arrogant, lazy, an ideologue, and lacking in knowledge of the day-to-day practice including procedural rules," William C. Hubbard, chair of the ABA's standing committee on the federal judiciary, wrote. "There was a theme that the nominee lacks humility, has an 'entitlement' temperament, does not have an open mind, and does not always have a commitment to being candid and truthful."
....

So I guess his confirmation will sail right on through.

Grins

(7,134 posts)
33. When did...
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 04:40 PM
Oct 2019

...lacking humility, an 'entitlement' temperament, close-minded, and not being candid and truthful” not be the perfect qualifications to be a Republican judge?

Those are his GOOD POINTS! That’s what got him nominated in the first place!

Grins

(7,134 posts)
37. It's not you. It's me. No. Wait! It is you!
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 04:49 PM
Oct 2019
“The ABA is under continued attack from conservatives who...argue that the (ABA) is biased against conservatives.”

Maybe it is you?
Maybe it’s your message?
Or your character?
Or your biases?
After this loser, maybe it’s time for you to do a little personal introspection?

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
38. If "conservatives" is understood to mean fascists
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:08 PM
Oct 2019

then the ABA (and ALL of us) should be biased against them.

But 40% of the US thinks fascism is groovy and another third or so doesn't see why we can't at least consider it.

Some things need to be out of bounds.

DBoon

(22,288 posts)
69. Modern Fascists work hard to destroy independent organizations
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:22 PM
Oct 2019

Orban and Bolsonaro are both working to eliminate NGOS in their respective countries.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
40. Sounds like EVERY Trump nominee.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:15 PM
Oct 2019
accomplishments are offset by the assessments of interviewees that Mr. VanDyke is arrogant, lazy, an ideologue, and lacking in knowledge of the day-to-day practice including procedural rules," William C. Hubbard, chair of the ABA's standing committee on the federal judiciary, wrote. "There was a theme that the nominee lacks humility, has an 'entitlement' temperament, does not have an open mind, and does not always have a commitment to being candid and truthful."

No wonder he was nominated. He checks off ALL the right boxes for Trump

cp

(6,543 posts)
43. Boo hoo
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:24 PM
Oct 2019

Notice how they cry only when it's about them, never about someone else's respect and justice?

3Hotdogs

(12,210 posts)
59. Fuck me. I bowled a 290 once.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 11:32 PM
Oct 2019

My form wasn't good, but I hit da pins.

You would'a liked to see it.

PatrickforO

(14,516 posts)
60. What is sad here is that Trump keeps nominating people who, like himself,
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:17 AM
Oct 2019

are utterly unqualified for what he's nominating them for.

Bottom line, I feel just a tiny bit sorry for this Van Dyke, just because he was publicly humiliated, but I'd feel a boatload sorrier for us if the guy actually got confirmed. The questioner was right to pound on him. Van Dyke needs a different career - one that doesn't affect us quite so much.

I mean, if he cries under that kind of questioning, why should we elevate him to have lives in his hands?

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
66. You're right; Trump keeps nominating people who are cut from the same cloth as he is.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:42 PM
Oct 2019

It's Van Dyke's arrogance that allows him to believe that he's qualified to be on the Courts when those performing the review feel otherwise. The sad part is that I know all these nominees being rejected, believe they are qualified because they look at their president and commander-in-chief and figure if he's fit to run a nation, they are fit to sit on the judge's bench. But like Trump, when they start talking, they give themselves away. They prove their unfitness for the job they are seeking. Trump proves his unfitness for office every day.

stopdiggin

(11,095 posts)
70. Trump is neither smart enough nor interested enough
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:26 PM
Oct 2019

to have a hand in court picks. (Trump is chiefly attracted to shiny objects, and barely has enough understanding or attention span to staff his own cabinet). If you're looking for where nominations for the court positions come from, it's all about McGahn and the Federalist Society.

PatrickforO

(14,516 posts)
74. Hmm. Wasn't McGahn one of the Republican leaders who met at that
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 08:13 PM
Oct 2019

DC steakhouse on the night of Obama's inauguration back in 09 and agreed to oppose everything Obama did in lock step?

Seems like he is.

Judi Lynn

(160,219 posts)
61. Saw your post much earlier, UpInArms, but couldn't stay away from it! Had to return,
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:59 AM
Oct 2019

to relive the glee, and the warm feelings.

Wow! So good to see one who DIDN'T get what he and Trump wanted, at long last.

Thank you, so much.





If he really believes in his position on people different from himself as a "Christian," he wouldn't be sobbing because he realizes it could lose him his lifetime prestigious job, he would be happy to stand up for his beliefs.
But nooooooo, he wants it all, to declare moral superiority over everyone, while ignoring the words of the being he claims to worship, and bagging his prize without letting go of his pride.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Sniff, sniff, snuffle.

What a fraud.

His family is looking as if he has just died, so funny.


UpInArms

(51,253 posts)
63. He doesn't look much like judge material to me
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:04 AM
Oct 2019

Seems he doesn’t like being judged ...

I kind of despise these peeps who put themselves out as so moral and above it all ... yet are the most immoral...

This one definitely wilted and wept under pressure... the epitome of a snowflake

Response to UpInArms (Original post)

benld74

(9,889 posts)
67. Either they scream outrage, cite God, or scare citing they will get retribution
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:55 PM
Oct 2019

ANY of the title list

IS NOT FIT TO SIT!!!

nt

napi21

(45,806 posts)
71. I saw his theatrics last night. IMO it was an ACT! JA couldn't even pull off a convincig act!
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:29 PM
Oct 2019

BTW, no tears! He just had this dumb look on his face and kept shaking his head and saying "I'm sorry."

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