Former Rep. Katie Hill's father pushes for prosecution of 'evil' estranged husband
Source: ABC News
Former Rep. Katie Hill's father pushes for prosecution of 'evil' estranged husband
By MARK OSBORNE, LISA SIVERTSEN and ALYSSA ACQUAVELLA
Oct 29, 2019, 11:11 PM ET
The father of former Rep. Katie Hill, who stepped down this week after nude photos of her were leaked amid allegations of inappropriate sexual relations with a congressional staffer, attacked his daughter's estranged husband as "wicked" and "evil" on Tuesday.
"I have remained silent and watched as Katie and our entire family has had to endure the spectacle created when her estranged husband, sent 'revenge porn' to RedState and/or some other British tabloid," Michael Hill said in a statement given exclusively to ABC News. "The fact that Kenny Heslep would do such a thing is unfathomable and appalling, especially considering that they were together since Katie was in high school and this is a woman that he purportedly loved and cared about."
Heslep, the husband of the Democratic congresswoman from California, filed for divorce from Hill in July.
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Roy Rolling
(6,911 posts)Unfortunately, there are dozens of revenge porn cases. What made Katie Hills case special is that she is being extorted as a member of Congress.
By resigning, she is not a member of Congress, and becomes just another of the many victims unjustly ignored way too often as she slips back into obscurity.
Resigning to now grandstand on another issue is selfish. The people elected her, it isnt her seat to reverse their decision.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)If the ex did revenge porn, then they must prosecute him. If she had a sexual relationship with two staffers that is another issue. They may cross in the venn diagram of life but being the victim of revenge porn doesn't exonerate Rep. Hill from the judgement lapse that she had which is the cause of her resignation.
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UpInArms
(51,280 posts)I have known some very charming sociopaths ... probably was raised by one, married one ... been pursued by several ... by then I was recognizing them earlier ... and have spent the rest of my life watching them in the ranks of our general society.
Superiority complex, much?
LittleGirl
(8,282 posts)Why would you say that?
Roy Rolling
(6,911 posts)Weak. The issue is, she resigned from Congress. She held an office entrusted to her by the voters. Instead of respecting their decision, she made it personal.
I say it because it separates the issue of revenge porn from her separate duties as a member of Congress.
Im sick of Democrats resigning when attacked by Republican operatives. Anybody who doesnt share that view doesnt understand the stewardship that comes with public office.
Having been in public office, I do. And when I was attacked by Republican operatives I stood my groundthey had to mount an entire smear campaign to install their next sycophant in my place.
Make them pay a price at least for their actions, dont give them a public office that is not yours to give away. It belongs to the voters.
Last thing, she knew of her actions from day-one. If she thought it disqualified herself from office she should have resigned then, not wait for a carefully executed smear campaign by her political enemies to remove her when THEY decide. She unwittingly did the work of Republicans for her.
Midnight Writer
(21,745 posts)Of course, any action risks increasing the publicity.
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)you shouldn't film or take pictures of sexually intimate moments. You will regret it, every time. If someone takes pictures of others in such private moments without the other's consent, that person should be liable for any damages caused by publication of those photos.
Withywindle
(9,988 posts)Even if you enjoy that, with trusted partners? If you consent to have nudes taken by a lover to share with them, then if they choose to use them against you poltically, somehow YOU'RE to blame? Millions of people nowadays do erotic photography since the means to do so have become so cheaply available.
Sharing those images WITHOUT CONSENT is a sexual violation.
Stop blaming the victim. Breaking consent is the crime.
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)Of course it's always wrong to publicize nude images without consent, but these things have a way of getting out and everyone should think about that possibility. What if someone else finds the images and releases them? You might be able to sue the person afterward, but the damage will be done and you'll just have to live with it. I'm just trying to encourage people to think seriously about this sort of thing before they do it. If they don't think it's that great of a risk or if they just don't care, that's fine by me.
IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)taking photos without consent is wrong
posting them online without consent is wrong
sharing it with tabloids without consent is wrong
rainin
(3,011 posts)Yes. It is wrong to share images without consent.
Here comes the second argument....
Yes. It is foolish and stupid to allow another person to take nude photos of you. (Without of signed contract with real consequences for violation.)
Two separate arguments.
When someone points out her foolishness, don't assume they aren't aware he was wrong to share them. Everyone agrees he was wrong to share them.
bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)or was that addressed in revenge porn legislation
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Absent a written assignment of rights or existing obligation to assign those rights, the copyright in a photograph is with the photographer.
rainin
(3,011 posts)Let's separate the arguments. I'm addressing one act - allowing someone to take nude photos. Stupid. Foolish. Don't.
You have to be ok, from the moment the picture is taken, for it to be on the front page of the NYT (or in this case, a right-wing rag).
This is no different than putting something online or sending a text. It is not safe. We need to be clear about that.
Obviously, this doesn't preclude shaming the man who shared the photos. He deserves consequences, whatever they may be.
But, be clear. It is foolish and stupid to allow someone to take nude photos, no matter how much you love them (now) or trust them (now) or think they would never hurt you (now). Get it?
Only a nondisclosure agreement (or a priests sacramental seal or a lawyers attorney client privilege) will protect your secret for life.
Let's be real about this. She was foolish and she lost. He was a shitty human being. She foolishly believed he would never act like a shitty human being.
lostnfound
(16,173 posts)What he did is barely one step better than stabbing her.
You know, a person is foolish for having knives in the house because you never know when your husband is going to stab you.
She did not plan to be a congresswoman. Maybe she didnt care that the photos were a risk, because she could not have foreseen that it would lead to her resignation from office. Who cares about nudity Melania is First Lady in spite of it. (Or technically maybe because of it.)
I can tell you this country is full of women who wont run for office because they have manipulative self-centered spouses and/or a fear of vengeful ex-boyfriends.
Javaman
(62,517 posts)rainin
(3,011 posts)she's in Congress. And yes, she trusted him. She was young...and foolish.
You are making my point exactly. You just don't realize it.
Those "vengeful ex-boyfriends" or "self-centered spouses" looked safe in the beginning.
We must teach our girls to think ahead and protect themselves.
Let's be clear to our daughters that this is foolish and stupid. Let's tell our daughters that their future could be seriously affected by this.
Tell our daughters that just because this guy is her forever man -- DON'T take nude pictures because she can't know if this relationship will end. She gives him a lot of power when she gives him nude photos of herself.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)...photos can be taken without the subject's permission or knowledge.
None of Rep. Hill's photos appeared to be selfies.
rainin
(3,011 posts)JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)In this day and age, the younger generations in particular always have a cellphone camera within reach and snap dozens of photos daily. It's not always possible to regulate when a picture is snapped, even in intimate settings.
I don't know whether she was aware all those pictures were being taken and I doubt you do, either.
In any case, it's wrong to blame the victim of revenge porn.
rainin
(3,011 posts)Her foolishness put her in a vulnerable position. We have all been foolish. Someone took advantage of her foolishness. He is bad and wrong.
She was still foolish.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)rainin
(3,011 posts)It is wise to take certain safety precautions for anything you wish to protect: lock your house, lock your car, be careful traveling in unknown areas, heed travel warnings when traveling to foreign countries, carry your passport under your clothes in busy areas, don't give your credit card number to someone who calls you, guard your social security number,
and don't take nude photos.
Of course, the list is very long.
People who rape are rapists and should be prosecuted.
People who steal are thieves and should be prosecuted.
People who allow nude pictures to be taken of them are foolish. Don't do it. Just don't do it.
lostnfound
(16,173 posts)Dont be trusting, girls. Because guys can be abusive assholes.
Dont be trusting, boys. Because girls can be abusive assholes.
No need to argue semantics, shes been well punished for her foolishness. Whats done is done.
Hugin
(33,120 posts)I agree Harelip needs to definitely be taken to civil court and eventually criminal court along with anyone receiving the material for publication.