House Democrats will not hold a vote authorizing impeachment probe, which White House sought (CNBC)
Source: CNBC
House Democrats will not hold a vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump as of now, which the White House had sought, according to a person familiar with the discussions Tuesday evening.
The decision to hold off on a formal vote comes amid growing pressure from Republican lawmakers and White House officials who have criticized House Democrats efforts as an illegitimate attempt to undermine Trumps presidency.
But many members of Pelosis caucus want to avoid the perception that the White House is dictating how the House, as part of a separate and equal branch of government, conducts itself, the person told CNBC.
Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/15/house-democrats-will-not-hold-a-vote-authorizing-impeachment-probe-which-white-house-sought.html
EarlG
(21,947 posts)At her presser, she said (paraphrasing): We're not here to call bluffs, this is deadly serious, we're taking our Constitutional responsibilities seriously and they're not, the president has violated his oath of office, they have no way to defend him so they're going to process, we're not going to process.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)Don't let them frame your narrative nor influence you moves. I approve, not that Speaker Pelosi should consider what I think here.
Keep it behind closed doors and keep them sweating while you gather evidence.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,137 posts)Use the McConnell Rule: Just do it.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)dalton99a
(81,455 posts)jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)Let them all rot in hell.
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)...just to enforce a Congressional subpoena. With Nixon, Congressional committees had done a lot of investigations prior to the formal vote.
You can't have it both ways. Argue that Democrats are rushing to vote on Impeachment, but thne insist on an impeachment vote before cooperating with Congressional oversight.
BumRushDaShow
(128,887 posts)vs a vote for "Impeachment", the latter of which WILL have a vote or votes once the Article(s) are drafted and are voted out of committee to reach the House floor.
Voting to start an "Inquiry" is not required by the House Rules and had not been done in preparation for the impeachment of former President Andrew Johnson, which the lazy media refuse to report on or underscore.
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)I know this is a popular Republican talking point, but there is no legal requirement for a vote to conduct an "impeachment inquiry" or that you need to vote to conduct an impeachment inquiry as prerequisite for Congress to issue a subpoena. I think the main point of "impeachment" being mentioned at this point is that Congress is conducting oversight regarding Presidential conduct that, if true, is grounds for impeachment. As for impeachment itself, the only vote you need is to impeach. There is no formal requirement to vote on an inquiry.
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4: When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies.
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BumRushDaShow
(128,887 posts)That's what I was saying and that is what Speaker Pelosi emphatically told the reporters today at her presser!
The OP headline was - House Democrats will not hold a vote authorizing impeachment probe.
(I don't think there was anything in the OP article referencing the next step or actual "impeachment" per se)
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)This ridiculous demand for a vote is just another republican attempt to flip the script. The law is straight forward and the Houses obligation is unquestioned. The story of Trumps guilt is clear, concise, and simple to understand. The President asked a foreign government for help with a political opponent. That is an impeachable offense. Everything else is a distraction.
sprinkleeninow
(20,237 posts)crapola to suit their every bogus need.
You said it!
ffr
(22,669 posts)How 'bout that!
Sound familiar? Until then, we'll keep adding charges to your impeachment.
euphorb
(279 posts)They were merely using the lack of a vote as an excuse not to cooperate. If there had been a vote, theyd find another excuse not to cooperate.
ffr
(22,669 posts)How 'bout that.
crickets
(25,963 posts)mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)No vote! Go fuck yourselves, republicans.
robbob
(3,527 posts)want to move the process along, get it to the Senate where they can kill it and tRump can crow about how hes been completely exonerated. Mueller redux. The longer we draw it out the more dirt will come to light.
My only concern is, as the election draws near they will frame the impeachment inquiry as a political stunt to swing the election. Lets hope enough Americans will see through that narrative.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)that will show to all but the chronically stupid that this is not a campaign stunt.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)It drives him nuts.
Takket
(21,563 posts)the white house does not set the agenda for the house and no vote is required for an inquiry.
there will be a vote on the articles soon enough........ they can wait for that.
orangecrush
(19,543 posts)100% trust in her judgment.
Pluvious
(4,310 posts)"Back when I took over the Country, I BECAME THE BOSS!!!!"
JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)There is no more time to waste. Let's show a little sense of urgency!
OAITW r.2.0
(24,455 posts)I'd vote Republican.
Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)go fuck themselves.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...that "Pelosi knows she doesnt even have 218 Democrat votes just to authorize an inquiry! Witch hunt!!!"