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brooklynite

(94,540 posts)
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:30 AM Oct 2019

Attorney: There are other whistleblowers

Source: Politico

The attorney representing the whistleblower whose complaint ignited the current firestorm over President Donald Trump’s phone call with the president of the Ukraine tweeted Sunday that he is representing other whistleblowers.

“IC WHISTLEBLOWER UPDATE: I can confirm that my firm and my team represent multiple whistleblowers in connection to the underlying August 12, 2019, disclosure to the Intelligence Community Inspector General. No further comment at this time,” Andrew P. Bakaj (@AndrewBakaj) tweeted Sunday morning.

The original whistleblower remains unidentified.

Bakaj, a former State Department employee, is paired with Mark Zaid in representing that person. They are partners at Compass Rose Legal Group, a Washington firm specializing in security issues.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/06/trump-whistleblower-ukraine-attorney-031823

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Attorney: There are other whistleblowers (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2019 OP
MULTIPLE whistleblowers Maeve Oct 2019 #1
I read it this way. Igel Oct 2019 #9
The IG said the original whistleblower did have first knowledge DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #15
When what is reported is backed up, it's not just "hearsay" Maeve Oct 2019 #18
Multiple means more than two, but jmho. DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #16
should shiver some timbers nt bcbink Oct 2019 #2
Hallelujah! lkinwi Oct 2019 #3
May the sounds of whistles implode the rooms of The White House. Guilded Lilly Oct 2019 #4
If it's what you say, I love it. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #5
Don Jr. Is that you? Perseus Oct 2019 #7
😆 dewsgirl Oct 2019 #8
all they seem to have is.... getagrip_already Oct 2019 #6
Which means trump will duforsure Oct 2019 #10
I would like to know why Scarsdale Oct 2019 #14
The laxative is working. gibraltar72 Oct 2019 #11
If they're all CIA people Mr.Bill Oct 2019 #12
This is what we've been waiting for FakeNoose Oct 2019 #13
+1,000+++++ CountAllVotes Oct 2019 #17
Hard to accept that Politico is still referring to "the Ukraine" (nt) SaulofTucson Oct 2019 #19

Igel

(35,300 posts)
9. I read it this way.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 10:21 AM
Oct 2019

The original whistleblower reported mostly hearsay.

When he testifies, unless he says the source of his hearsay so it can be checked out, reasonable people will say, "Yes, but it's still just hearsay. He reports on a dozen things he heard rumors of. Unless they're confirmed, they're still rumors."

That means he'll have to say who said what.

It's also backing up a colleague. If they didn't come forward and confirm what he said, they'd be throwing him under the bus. The whistleblower report sounds like there's a fairly close-knit community sharing information on more than a need-to-know basis. Solidarity would be pushing them to come forward and back up their colleague.

Either way--having their names told as the result of testimony to avoid having the report tossed on grounds of credible but intentionally not verifiable ("credible" doesn't mean "true&quot , or their coming forward to back their coworker--would leave them exposed. There's no protection under those two scenarios. Ultimately, they want to speak freely and control their story, anonymously, if possible, and minimize the risk to themselves. Details like "the whistleblower is a registered Democrat" would be unhelpful.

Coming forward as a whistleblower provides a guarantee (real or fiction) of anonymity. Part of me suspects that Schiff's office told the original whistleblower, when he spoke with them prior to filing his report, to file his report for the protection and because of the path the paperwork would have to take. The initial report he filed with the CIA would have routinely been forwarded to the president's office--no protection there, and the report could easily dead end and be behind a wall of classificational silence.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
15. The IG said the original whistleblower did have first knowledge
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:57 PM
Oct 2019

of some of the events, meaning the complaint is not all "hearsay" or "second hand" information.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
18. When what is reported is backed up, it's not just "hearsay"
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:23 PM
Oct 2019

We have (some of) the text of the conversation and it backs up what was alleged. I say "some of" altho tRump says it's "verbatim" and many is the man who cut his throat with his own tongue.

They will say what they will say--but it won't make it true. I read multiple to mean more than two, so here's hoping the flood gates are creaking open!

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
6. all they seem to have is....
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 10:04 AM
Oct 2019

If trump did it, it's not against the law, and if anyone else did it at his direction, it still isn't against the law.

A cheesy little game of gotcha. Look, SQUIRREL!!!!!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
10. Which means trump will
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:00 AM
Oct 2019

Abuse his powers trying to intimidate others from coming forward using Barr and others to threaten them with. This exposes they're conspiring to obstruct justice, and trump will make more false claims lying to attack them with. Many, many more will come forward to expose all these criminals working to protect the biggest criminal Donnie the criminal trump, and these people trying to corrupt our government ,and protecting him will be facing their own trials for what they've criminally done. People around trump will be going to prison, and have no one to blame but themselves siding with someone so corrupt, and dishonest.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
14. I would like to know why
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:27 PM
Oct 2019

people protect tRump? He is a sleazy con man, devoid of any human principles. The people protecting him are traitors to this country as far as I am concerned. They should ALL be charged. Barr, Pompeo, Pence, Rudy, Moscow Mitch, Graham and the scum working in the WH. Mulvaney and Miller. What is in it for them, protecting a sub-human "thing" like tRump?

Mr.Bill

(24,284 posts)
12. If they're all CIA people
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:16 PM
Oct 2019

the white house will just say it's a treasonous CIA conspiracy to overthrow the government.

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