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brooklynite

(94,384 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 05:55 PM Oct 2019

Scoop: Trump pins Ukraine call on Energy Secretary Rick Perry

Source: Axios

President Trump told House Republicans that he made his now infamous phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the urging of Energy Secretary Rick Perry — a call Trump claimed he didn’t even want to make.

Behind the scenes: Trump made these comments during a conference call with House members on Friday, according to 3 sources on the call.

Per the sources, Trump rattled off the same things he has been saying publicly — that his call with Zelensky was "perfect"and he did nothing wrong.

But he then threw Perry into the mix and said something to the effect of: "Not a lot of people know this but, I didn't even want to make the call. The only reason I made the call was because Rick asked me to. Something about an LNG [liquified natural gas] plant," one source said, recalling the president's comments. 2 other sources confirmed the first source's recollection.


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There’s a patsy born every minute...
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Scoop: Trump pins Ukraine call on Energy Secretary Rick Perry (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2019 OP
Lol ! This is getting better and better ! OnDoutside Oct 2019 #1
Under the bus you go Rick Botany Oct 2019 #2
LOL hate to say it but Rick deserves to be thrown under onetexan Oct 2019 #28
Uh oh...maybe Perry has something big on him DrToast Oct 2019 #3
So, he chooses Perry as the patsy, not Giiuliani... hlthe2b Oct 2019 #4
They're all morons! Jazzgirl Oct 2019 #22
Perry is to stupid not to stand in front of Wellstone ruled Oct 2019 #5
Oh boy! The Liberal Lion Oct 2019 #6
So... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #7
"I did not want to make that perfect, beautiful call, wannhhh Leghorn21 Oct 2019 #8
This is so bizarre it has to be an Onion article? marked50 Oct 2019 #9
What kind of loser Midnightwalk Oct 2019 #10
Another change of tRump's position on this after admitting it, then welcoming other countries ffr Oct 2019 #11
And now Perry truly appreciates why he wanted the Department of Energy disbanded . . . Journeyman Oct 2019 #12
what if..... getagrip_already Oct 2019 #13
Perry offered his resignation a few days back before this was aired. mpcamb Oct 2019 #15
!!! Kali Oct 2019 #14
Boom! Under the bus you go, Ricky. yellowcanine Oct 2019 #16
... BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #17
The supposed most powerful man in the free world does shit he doesn't want to do?????? groundloop Oct 2019 #18
source on the call said Trump added that "more of this will be coming out in the next -- referring to riversedge Oct 2019 #19
Anyone think Perry could even form a meaningful sentence about Ukraine?? TNNurse Oct 2019 #20
I imagine there will be a shortage of buses in the DC area. tclambert Oct 2019 #21
That might actually be true. JohnnyRingo Oct 2019 #23
Well ooops! runtel Oct 2019 #24
I've been hoping for a Rick Perry face plant for years. nt Progressive Jones Oct 2019 #25
you & me both, we hate him here in TX onetexan Oct 2019 #29
Is that hatred universal; Left and Right? I know that next door in Indiana, Progressive Jones Oct 2019 #31
No, RW nutters love him onetexan Oct 2019 #32
K&R real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #26
Nothing was said about a, "gas plant" in that call Bayard Oct 2019 #27
Rick Perry goes from stupid villain to super villain 🦹‍♀️ Julian Englis Oct 2019 #30

onetexan

(13,024 posts)
28. LOL hate to say it but Rick deserves to be thrown under
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:48 AM
Oct 2019

that's what you get for your loyalty to Dumpster the sinking saga continues

hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
4. So, he chooses Perry as the patsy, not Giiuliani...
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 06:04 PM
Oct 2019

Wonder what it might be about Perry that could cause Trump to be ready to jettison him rather than Giuliani (ignoring that they are both morons)? Might there be a bit of comparative physical attribute insecurity?




Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
7. So...
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 06:06 PM
Oct 2019

This is how you get off, huh?:

"I really didn't want to rob the bank. My friend urged me to do it. I really didn't want to. It was a perfect bank robbery though and so, I did nothing wrong."

Exonerated! Not guilty. A new, legal precedent.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
10. What kind of loser
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 06:17 PM
Oct 2019

Hides behind a light weight like Perry. Not that it’s any kind of alibi. If it is true it’s a pretty desperate move.

Queue up rubio to blame the whole thing on bad advice.

I wonder what corrupt scheme was behind the LNG plant. I wouldn’t think Russia would be a fan unless the plant was a way to “launder” Russian energy sources.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
11. Another change of tRump's position on this after admitting it, then welcoming other countries
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 06:18 PM
Oct 2019

Now, oh no I really stepped in it, so it wasn't my fault, I'm just a big stupid oaf that...

NO. You are a narcissistic unethically bankrupt spiteful vindictive individual that is guilty of betraying your oath of office.

Journeyman

(15,026 posts)
12. And now Perry truly appreciates why he wanted the Department of Energy disbanded . . .
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 06:27 PM
Oct 2019

He wouldn't be in this trouble if there'd been no Energy Department for him to head. Wouldn't be in this trouble if he wasn't such a dumbshit, either. Well, them's the breaks. Enjoy the acrid taste of rubber and asphalt, Perry. You earned it.

getagrip_already

(14,647 posts)
13. what if.....
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 06:28 PM
Oct 2019

perry basically backs trump up, saying he arranged the whole thing, and trump was talking about that during his call......

I don't trust him.

I don't trust any of them.

mpcamb

(2,868 posts)
15. Perry offered his resignation a few days back before this was aired.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 07:08 PM
Oct 2019

I figure either:
1) He wanted to lawyer up, since he'd been tipped by a friend in high places, and had gotten a whiff of trump's plan.
or
2) He smelled smoke, remembered he'd been played earlier by trump to get tangentially into
this Ukrainian fiasco and like Ron Johnson, became a bit part player to be used as a bargaining chip or, even better, a fall guy.
Therefore, time to quit and get yourself back to the Lone Star State.

groundloop

(11,514 posts)
18. The supposed most powerful man in the free world does shit he doesn't want to do??????
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:19 PM
Oct 2019

tRump is fucking pathetic.

riversedge

(70,094 posts)
19. source on the call said Trump added that "more of this will be coming out in the next -- referring to
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:00 PM
Oct 2019



Alayna Treene, Jonathan Swan3 hours ago
Scoop: Trump pins Ukraine call on Energy Secretary Rick Perry


U.S. President Donald Trump stands next to Energy Secretary Rick Perry


President Trump and Energy Secretary Rick Perry. Photo: Kevin Dietsch-Pool/Getty Images

President Trump told House Republicans that he made his now infamous phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the urging of Energy Secretary Rick Perry — a call Trump claimed he didn’t even want to make.

Behind the scenes: Trump made these comments during a conference call with House members on Friday, according to 3 sources on the call.

Per the sources, Trump rattled off the same things he has been saying publicly — that his call with Zelensky was "perfect"and he did nothing wrong.
But he then threw Perry into the mix and said something to the effect of: "Not a lot of people know this but, I didn't even want to make the call. The only reason I made the call was because Rick asked me to. Something about an LNG [liquified natural gas] plant," one source said, recalling the president's comments. 2 other sources confirmed the first source's recollection.

Why it matters: The president's remarks suggest he may be seeking to distance himself from responsibility or recast the pretext for the call. White House officials did not respond to requests for comment.

Another source on the call said Trump added that "more of this will be coming out in the next few days" — referring to Perry.....................

https://www.axios.com/trump-blamed-rick-perry-call-ukraine-zelensky-8178447a-0374-4ac6-b321-a9454b0565d4.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
21. I imagine there will be a shortage of buses in the DC area.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:17 PM
Oct 2019

They're all having people thrown under them.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
23. That might actually be true.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:30 PM
Oct 2019

It's just like something that meathead Rick Perry would do. Still no excuse, but Trump surrounds himself with the best people so he's in good company.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
31. Is that hatred universal; Left and Right? I know that next door in Indiana,
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:59 PM
Oct 2019

Pence was disliked even by Republicans as a governor.

Bayard

(22,011 posts)
27. Nothing was said about a, "gas plant" in that call
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:40 AM
Oct 2019

I think this is coming out now to throw dirt on Perry before he starts talking, after his resignation.

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
30. Rick Perry goes from stupid villain to super villain 🦹‍♀️
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 06:10 PM
Oct 2019

A sign of how desperate tRump must be—painting Perry as the mastermind.

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