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appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:24 AM Sep 2019

Trump Was Repeatedly Warned That Ukraine Conspiracy Theory Was 'Completely Debunked'

Source: NY Times

1 hr. ago. WASHINGTON — President Trump was repeatedly warned by his own staff that the Ukraine conspiracy theory that he and his lawyer were pursuing was “completely debunked” long before the president pressed Ukraine this summer to investigate his Democratic rivals, a former top adviser said on Sunday.

Thomas P. Bossert, who served as Mr. Trump’s first homeland security adviser, said he told the president there was no basis to the theory that Ukraine, not Russia, intervened in the 2016 election and did so on behalf of the Democrats. Speaking out for the first time, Mr. Bossert said he was “deeply disturbed” that Mr. Trump nonetheless tried to get Ukraine’s president to produce damaging information about Democrats.

Mr. Bossert’s comments, on the ABC program “This Week” and in a subsequent telephone interview, underscored the danger to the president as the House moves ahead with an inquiry into whether he abused his power for political gain. Other former aides to Mr. Trump said on Sunday that he refused to accept reassurances about Ukraine no matter how many times it was explained to him, instead subscribing to an unsubstantiated narrative that has now brought him to the brink of impeachment.

The latest revelations came as the impeachment inquiry rushed ahead at a brisk pace. The House chairman taking the lead said that the whistle-blower who brought the matter to light would testify soon and that a subpoena for documents would be issued early this week to Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer who spearheaded the effort to find dirt on Democrats in Ukraine. In a letter to the acting director of national intelligence, lawyers for the whistle-blower requested stepped-up efforts to ensure his safety, citing “serious concerns we have regarding our client’s personal safety.”...More...

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Trump Was Repeatedly Warned That Ukraine Conspiracy Theory Was 'Completely Debunked' (Original Post) appalachiablue Sep 2019 OP
Well, thanks, Mr. Bossert Leghorn21 Sep 2019 #1
Decent guy who's unafraid to speak truth, praise! appalachiablue Sep 2019 #2
What a rube Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2019 #3
dementia mopinko Sep 2019 #4
It's not dementia, he is just a dumbass KelleyKramer Sep 2019 #8
Totally agree. He has a long history of being a dumbass. LiberalFighter Sep 2019 #13
stupid is not protective of dementia. mopinko Sep 2019 #15
Exactly! FM123 Sep 2019 #16
He's been a dumbass his whole life IronLionZion Sep 2019 #19
Not dementia or stupidity. Trump is doing this on purpose. yardwork Sep 2019 #17
because he cant take in new facts. mopinko Sep 2019 #18
Trump is calculating and we underestimate him at our peril. yardwork Sep 2019 #23
Where did Ghouliani get this wacko idea from? BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #5
John Solomon DeminPennswoods Sep 2019 #9
I just googled him and it said that BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #10
Solomon used to work for AP and he was, at best, DeminPennswoods Sep 2019 #11
What would the Birther care who rode Cha Sep 2019 #6
That doesn't count. They wrote him a letter explaining it in detail. ffr Sep 2019 #7
Rudy has been doing business Scarsdale Sep 2019 #12
Repugs have been doing this for years. SharonClark Sep 2019 #14
But in this case they are not moving on. The POS POTUS is trying to rehabilitate the big lie of 2016 MadLinguist Sep 2019 #20
Shout this from the rooftops! Bayard Sep 2019 #21
The obvious answer is #Traitor and Co wanted Ukraine to fabricate "evidence" Arazi Sep 2019 #22

Leghorn21

(13,522 posts)
1. Well, thanks, Mr. Bossert
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:32 AM
Sep 2019

This is one of the very very few morsels of reality to emanate from a former trump official

I appreciate it. Thank you sir.

mopinko

(70,010 posts)
4. dementia
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:05 AM
Sep 2019

these kinds of things show that his mind is now a brick. a brick of swiss cheese.

his language problems are so plain to see.
cart the old man off for an mri, kids. it's time.
before someone ELSE gets hurt.

KelleyKramer

(8,901 posts)
8. It's not dementia, he is just a dumbass
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 02:56 AM
Sep 2019

He is an idiot and on top of that his narcissism will not let him listen to anyone

He is dumber than a box of rocks

He can't even close an umbrella, literally

mopinko

(70,010 posts)
15. stupid is not protective of dementia.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:09 AM
Sep 2019

stupid people get even worse when they start to go.

and it isnt about stupid, it's about the kind of mistakes he makes. not being able to make decisions, only able to flail around, has a tiny vocabulary.

rly. i work w dementia patients sometimes. it isnt about stupid, it's about short circuits. and open circuits that you cant close.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
16. Exactly!
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:20 AM
Sep 2019

Reminds me of an episode from "That Seventies Show"

Eric: Bad things keep happening to me, like I have bad luck or something.
Red :You don’t have bad luck. The reason bad things happen to you is because you’re a DUMBASS

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
17. Not dementia or stupidity. Trump is doing this on purpose.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:42 AM
Sep 2019

Telling lies about Democrats worked for Trump in 2016. He's betting that it will work again.

mopinko

(70,010 posts)
18. because he cant take in new facts.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:45 AM
Sep 2019

he cant even grasp what is happening to him.
he is out of it.

he cant take in new facts, and he cant make tough decisions.
i really want congress to call dr ronnie feelgood.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
5. Where did Ghouliani get this wacko idea from?
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:55 AM
Sep 2019

Did those two pseudo lawyers start it? Or is this the crap RWNJs read and hear on right wing media?

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
9. John Solomon
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 04:22 AM
Sep 2019

is the source. He's been pushing this nonsense from his position as an opinion writer at "The Hill". It's anyone's guess why he's still employed there...

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
10. I just googled him and it said that
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 04:33 AM
Sep 2019

he will be leaving The Hill at the end of the month to start his own media company. It seems like they will be glad to see him go.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
6. What would the Birther care who rode
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 02:14 AM
Sep 2019

to fake victory on accusing President Obama of not being born in the United States of America?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
12. Rudy has been doing business
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 06:24 AM
Sep 2019

with Ukraine for quite some time. I think he prodded tRump to investigate the Bidens, to eliminate the competition. Rudy wanted to be the only American trusted to work with the government of Ukraine. He is a slimy little bastard, always looking out for himself. tRump trusted Rudy, to his own detriment, now he is stuck!Both of these creeps believe everyone is as underhanded and greedy as they are themselves. Neither will recognize that there are HONEST people in the world, who do not use their positions to enrich themselves.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
14. Repugs have been doing this for years.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 08:36 AM
Sep 2019

They get caught in a lie and just move on to the next campaign stop or media outlet and lie again.
It's worked well for them in the past.

MadLinguist

(787 posts)
20. But in this case they are not moving on. The POS POTUS is trying to rehabilitate the big lie of 2016
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:18 AM
Sep 2019

And his gang and as much of the GOP tribe as can be recruited are joining this absurd revisionist fantasy.

It's hard to even recite the purported story-line -- the DNC worked with the Ukrainians to false flag hack themselves, and thereby prevent themselves from gaining the White House so that they could then gin up a scandal against their two enemies: Russia and the GOP nominee, DJT. How in the hell do you sell that shyte? Even to the drunkest conspiracy nut in the parking lot, it's just cray-cray

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