GOP senators are 'stunned' at the transcript -- and think Trump is putting himself in more jeopardy

[brooklynite]

Source: Raw Story

The White House has tried to get ahead of the exploding scandal about President Donald Trump pressuring the president of Ukraine to dig up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden by releasing a batch of notes taken from the call. But the notes in fact confirm Trump demanded an investigation of Biden, implicate Attorney General William Barr in the scheme, and even show the Ukrainian President tried to flatter him by bringing up his stays in Trump Tower.

The transcript was, in fact, so legally and politically damaging for the president that — according to Washington Post reporter Robert Costa — pro-Trump Senate Republicans were completely blindsided, and have no idea where to go from here:

Link to tweet

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/gop-senators-are-stunned-at-the-transcript-and-think-trump-is-putting-himself-in-more-jeopardy-report/

[Zorro]

1. Senate Republicans could fulfill their Constitutional obligations and do the right thing

but I don't see that happening.

They're all traitors.

[customerserviceguy]

5. While they are indeed evil

they can be counted on to look out after their own interests. If Trump is seen as a major liability for 2020, they can decide to send a committee to the White House to ask him to resign, and failing that, they can publicly call for his resignation and cheer on impeachment efforts in the House.

The downside is not that bad for them, they end up with Pence as president for another year, and after Trump, he's going to seem almost normal to the swing voters.

We'll know more when we know the identity of the whistleblower.

[JudyM]

10. That could be their best move. It'd work out just fine for mcconnel & co.

[customerserviceguy]

27. I'm sure that for Moscow Mitch

dealing with Trump has not been easy. He'd have a way easier time dealing with Pence.

But, if Trump's out, then a primary battle is underway, and I have no doubts that Romney would throw his hat in the ring the day after Trump's pardon. Then it becomes a battle for the money people over the fundies in the GOP.

It would also change the fundamentals of our nomination contest, too.

[JudyM]

58. Interesting, yes, it will change ours too. If only we could get rid of pence and get Nancy in there.

[MarcA]

26. Agreed. The we got rid of the bad guy so no need to vote D move. n/t

[ffr]

28. Only if we go along with today's transcript cover-up for Pence, who's gone into hiding.

Pence hasn't tweeted in almost a day.

He's the one who met and spoke repeatedly with Zelensky from April through September 18th, 2019.

Transcript mentions Barr to meet with Zelensky on behalf of 45. Barr acts blindsided today about those revelations.

Yet, and yet, no mention of Pence's interactions on behalf of 45 with Zelensky in the "official" transcript.

Hmmm. Strange coincidences don't you agree?

[customerserviceguy]

31. Some say

there are no coincidences.

[dchill]

47. Coincidence in a pig's eye.

[pangaia]

42. PENCE PENCE THAt is just as big a danger...

"he's going to seem almost normal to the swing voters.
.."

EGGSACTLY !!!!

PENCE MUST MUST be brought down as well and at the same time so he cannot appoint a VP !!

[customerserviceguy]

44. The silver lining is

that Pence is involved in Ukrainian things up to his eyeballs. Two birds with one stone would be delightful!

[Amimnoch]

46. I don't think they'd see it as an option.

The tRumphumpers will primary them out. This is Teaparty 2.0.

If they do anything that displeases the fuhrer they know they will loose that chunk of their constituency that has gone full on brown shirt. The count on those who don't support Trump, but don't want anyone from the Democratic Party either to keep them in. Without the Trumphumpers they know they're out. They stay loyal, and even if he goes down, they may still keep their seat..

It's all about holding onto power for the vast majority of them.

[customerserviceguy]

48. Oh, it'll be poll tested

before they try it, that's for sure.

If enough Trumphumpers see this Ukrainian thing as a dealbreaker, then their support of Trump will drop, and that's when the GOP'ers in the Senate will make their move. However, I have doubts that the deplorables will see it that way. Ukraine is far away (most couldn't find it on a globe) and if it was about dishing up dirt on Biden, then it was justified. They didn't mind Wikileaks helping Trump beat Hillary, even though they despised Edward Snowden.

[Volaris]

52. You think pence is NOT in this up to his eyeballz?

[customerserviceguy]

57. Upon reflection

I made post #44, perhaps you didn't see it.

[DownriverDem]

34. I did see

where 30 repub Senators would vote to find trump guilty if who they are would be kept secret. Figures.

[33taw]

2. Really? Shocked, I call bs! They are shocked at the exposure.

[Thekaspervote]

18. The way I read it was they are surprised the WH released it, not about the criminal content

Althou, I’m sure they will

A. Act surprised about the content
B. Act as if the content is false

[TeamPooka]

37. They are shocked Trump is dumb enough to think "If I confess publicly you cant prosecute me"

their recent complacency has made them lax and stupid.

[RAB910]

3. Hasn't stopped them from lying to try and protect their criminal/traitorous President

[saidsimplesimon]

4. Thank you for sharing the tweet.

[happybird]

6. Oh, to be a fly on the wall at that lunch

[brooklynite]

12. Sure would be embarrassing if something leaked...

[amywalk]

50. I'm sure someone, somewhere has a copy of the pee pee tape.

Now would be the time to “leak” it. 😂😂😂

[underpants]

7. I'm sure Susan Collins is double special concerned

[Midnightwalk]

32. Does that mean she's going to put trump on double secret probation?

[Whiskeytide]

36. Fat, orange and stupid is no way to go through life, son. n/t

[The_Counsel]

8. I Actually LOL'ed at This Part Right Here...

The transcript was, in fact, so legally and politically damaging for the president that — according to Washington Post reporter Robert Costa — pro-Trump Senate Republicans were completely blindsided, and have no idea where to go from here:

Yeah, RIGHT, GOP-ers...you know EXACTLY where to go from here. (No, not hell...not YET, anyway... ) Your problem is you just don't want to go there.

I actually understand their sentiment...

[turbinetree]

9. For over 2 & 1/2 years going all the way up to the 2018 election every fucking republican senator

and every fucking republican congressional person........cabinet crony and whovere else just sat there with there hands up their ass ..............gave this asshole carte blanche....................they fucking did nothing and "now" they are shocked....................and running around like" what do we do".............they the republicans are full of treasonous shit.....................they put "party" over country lock, stock and barrel.............they did not give one iota to the Constitution when they swore to protect and defend this country....................NEVER........they lied............and now they will have to vote....................for what their principles are ............end of story...............................

November 3, 2020 cannot get here fast enough.....................

[BamaRefugee]

11. GOP "have no idea what to do"? Bullshit. They'll double down on terrible things, as always...

[ArizonaLib]

13. The republicans are not sure what to do because it is something new to lie about

They have not had to lie about this before. The best they can probably do at first take is to 'Oliver North' Attorney General Barr. Maybe Oliver North is at the White House already.

[Mr.Bill]

22. They are professional liars.

It's what they do best. It would be telling the truth that would baffle them.

[beachbumbob]

14. Some of this explains McConnels action yesterday in not

impeding the whistleblower complaint going to committees. Trumps unchecked hubris might finally cross a big enough line where the complete destruction of the GOP is becoming very possible if they remain blind and silent to treasonous acts. Colluding with a foreign govt can be called treason in my book.

[MFGsunny]

60. This. n/t

[beachbumbob]

15. Need to quit calling notes, a transcript, that's an outright lie

Being replicated by every media outlet.

No damn transcript been released.

[lagomorph777]

53. Notes highly edited or fully fabricated by Trump.

And yet he still looks terrible in them!

[RockRaven]

16. If they are "stunned" then they are fucking morons who haven't been paying attention to

the last 4 years or so. That phone call, what little we know about it, is totally unsurprising, as is the maneuver by Trump where he makes the problem worse for himself whilst thinking he is solving it.

[LudwigPastorius]

17. They knew Trump was an immoral, criminally corrupt, crazy fuck when they agreed to back him.

If they didn't, they're dumber than he is.

Stew in it, you GOPigs.

[FakeNoose]

19. The rats are leaving - Moscow Mitch must have given the signal

It won't be long now. Stay strong, my friends!

[Vinca]

20. Imagine if they saw an actual transcript and not a cooked up memo.

[Baitball Blogger]

21. WTF?

What is their solution? More obstruction?

[LiberalLovinLug]

23. Stunned that their R President would release it, Not stunned that he'd collude and subvert.

Lets just get that straight first off. Its so awful that that part is just glossed over these days. That these stories do now even have to be prefaced with how corrupt and anti-Constitutional the R Party has become. It is just presumed. And the fact that most of them most likely would endorse those actions, if kept secret, if it meant getting a leg up on Biden, and increasing Republican chances in 2020.

[Linda Ed]

24. Keep your eyes on William Barr.

Barr is the new focus of this mega scandal....Barr would gladly obstruct justice on drumpfs behalf

drumpf used to scream; "NO COLLUSION !!" -- now he's like; "Yeah, I did it - so what ?" -- as if to underscore how completely above the law he believes he is after Barr and the whole GOP let him off the hook for the Mueller report.

And now Trump's actions absolutely confirm the worst conclusions that Mueller came to about his conduct since before the 2016 election.
Trump thinks he can get away with ANYTHING.

Impeachment hangs the ugly title of impeached president on Trump. It also forces McConnell to take the vote to the senate floor. Which will identify every GOP cult follower.

[Maxheader]

25. Stunned today...

Business as usual tomorrow...The gop has been bullied by stumpy since the campaign...
Will their opinions change enough to pursue impeachment?....

[Captain Zero]

29. Hell IT CONFIRMS EMOLUMENTS paid to him and that he accepted EMOLUMENTS

'even show(s) the Ukrainian President tried to flatter him by bringing up his stays in Trump Tower.'
Game, set, match on the EMOLUMENTS Article of Impeachment.

Womp Womp.
Thoughts and Prayers.

[Qutzupalotl]

30. Not good to stun the potential jury.

If they can’t condone this behavior, maybe there is a way out of this nightmare.

[Fritz Walter]

33. Schadenfreude is the most sublime/beautiful joy...

Link to tweet

...because it comes from the heart!

[dlk]

35. Here's a novel suggestion for Republicans-comply with the law

Here’s an even more radical suggestion for them-try putting country before country for a change. Republicans are only “stunned” at being held accountable.

[Politicub]

38. I want to see the right's coordinated talking points about the transcript since release.

Last edited Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)

Maybe some patriotic staffer will leak the email.

On edit: huzzah! some of the talking points were leaked! See https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212500112

[sandensea]

39. Aww. Senate Republicans 'have no idea where to go from here'

How about, to hell.

[pangaia]

40. "They do not think it helps the president's cause. "

bunch of stupid, ignorant treasonous lying fucks....

[Beartracks]

54. Lawlessness is their cause. Mnuchin said as much...

Last edited Wed Sep 25, 2019, 05:26 PM - Edit history (1)

... when Mnuchin said following the law (e.g. providing the whistleblower complaint to Congress) would set a dangerous precedent.

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[Mr. Ected]

41. And yet Kennedy has already announced they won't impeach

So even if gross espionage is alleged and proven, these turds won't raise a finger to seek justice, and their constituents won't care.

[mountain grammy]

43. while the "news" babbels about Democrats

not a word about Republicans..

[duforsure]

45. The longer they wait

To oust him the more republicans will be voted out of office because of him. It's just a matter of time before they do it, or they'll be destroyed for all their corruption, and treasonous acts .

[dchill]

49. What transcript? I don't see a transcript.

Just a memo purporting to be a description of some recollections...

Definitely not as promised.

[Beartracks]

51. GOPers have no idea where to go? Why not support country over party, dipshits!

FFS, the GOP doesn't deserve to a political party in a democratic nation anymore. They're useless.

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[Marthe48]

55. is gop stunned

because it is so bad? Or that individuals gop politicians didn't think of doing this kind of crooked treasonous crap to benefit themselves?

[yellowcanine]

56. Stunned that there is gambling going on here!

[Linda Ed]

59. This should teach Zelensky that dealing with trump is dealing with the devil.

Trump, Barr, Giuliani, Pompeo et al - pretty ominous when you have people so dishonest that their clocks aren't even correct twice/day..

What evidence actually shows is the Ukrainians actually looked into this, terminated the investigation and found nothing there.

The notes of the call between Trump and the Ukrainian president reveal that beyond asking for dirt on Joe Biden, Trump also pressed for information about a conspiracy theory designed to exonerate Russia's role in hacking the DNC.