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brooklynite

(93,843 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 10:33 PM Sep 2019

'Get real': Senior Democrats shut down Kavanaugh impeachment push

Source: Politico

Senior Democrats are moving quickly to snuff out calls to impeach Brett Kavanaugh, arguing those tactics are unrealistic and politically harmful.

Democrats are already wrestling with whether to try to oust President Donald Trump, and leadership sees little room for the party to take on a second divisive impeachment saga barely a year before the presidential election. So the demands by 2020 presidential contenders to remove the Supreme Court justice, on the heels of new reporting about allegations of sexual misconduct, are getting panned.

“Get real,” as Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) put it Monday afternoon.

“We’ve got to get beyond this ‘impeachment is the answer to every problem.’ It’s not realistic,” Durbin said. “If that’s how we are identified in Congress, as the impeachment Congress, we run the risk that people will feel we’re ignoring the issues that mean a lot to them as families.”

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/16/democrats-brett-kavanaugh-impeachment-calls-1499444

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'Get real': Senior Democrats shut down Kavanaugh impeachment push (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2019 OP
Interesting dhol82 Sep 2019 #1
Too late question everything Sep 2019 #2
It is never too late Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #53
Do you really think that going after supreme court justices question everything Sep 2019 #66
You misrepresent it Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #68
Agree, people need fearless leaders rainy Sep 2019 #76
First things first TheRealNorth Sep 2019 #77
This is why we can't have nice things. CentralMass Sep 2019 #3
Every democrat in the country needs to call Dick Durbin. rainin Sep 2019 #4
This issue isnt the Democrats the issue is the math and finding a way to get the number of votes to cstanleytech Sep 2019 #12
Phone: 202.224.2152 Duppers Sep 2019 #23
You want to launch an Impeachment inquiry based on no actual evidence? brooklynite Sep 2019 #43
Maybe let the FBI do an investigation of the weenie whipper Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #55
+100 reACTIONary Sep 2019 #57
Except for all the democrats that agree with him. And there a bunch. GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #48
That is notm why we won in 18 Butterflylady Sep 2019 #51
Respectfully, but you are incorrect. GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #52
+100 reACTIONary Sep 2019 #58
So these people ate thinking about grumpyduck Sep 2019 #5
Yes. Seriously. calguy Sep 2019 #18
Dems can walk and chew gum at the same time Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #56
Its not a distraction for us... reACTIONary Sep 2019 #59
Nah..that's not what I meant Farmer-Rick Sep 2019 #62
I think you are right... reACTIONary Sep 2019 #63
so, Dem House, pass some more bills dweller Sep 2019 #6
Great idea Dick durablend Sep 2019 #7
Right? AllyCat Sep 2019 #24
I am SO F*CKING SICK of these "bread-and-butter issues" Democrats... regnaD kciN Sep 2019 #25
Good SCantiGOP Sep 2019 #8
Most of this is based on the Times article and they fucked up big time ripcord Sep 2019 #61
Well at least get the terminology correct. Voltaire2 Sep 2019 #73
IMO I thought they should have asked for him to resign to keep from sounding impeachment crazy. chowder66 Sep 2019 #9
Durbin, we've got to get beyond impeachment is the answer to everything. notdarkyet Sep 2019 #10
Can you name the 19 Republican Senators Locutusofborg Sep 2019 #46
+ 1,000. nt in2herbs Sep 2019 #50
He is probably right as the Democrats simply do not have nearly enough seats and cstanleytech Sep 2019 #11
let's decide everything by what the republicans think about it... not_the_one Sep 2019 #13
It has nothing to do with what Republicans think about it. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #14
hear hear -- well said. nt Grasswire2 Sep 2019 #20
Impeachment for Beer Bong Weenie Waver* is going straight up 3Hotdogs Sep 2019 #15
Impeachment of Kavanaugh is a fever dream. TomSlick Sep 2019 #16
We need to save that for after Jan 2021, anyways. Gore1FL Sep 2019 #17
Ironically, it will be a lot harder then... regnaD kciN Sep 2019 #26
Then keep him and hope he drinks himself into an early grave exboyfil Sep 2019 #54
Republicans are not going to join in. McConnell will keep them in check. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2019 #65
Too bad the Democratic party leadership didn't start putting as much PufPuf23 Sep 2019 #19
Every problem? JonLP24 Sep 2019 #21
His desire to look "realistic" smeared the party. JudyM Sep 2019 #60
ignoring the issues?, so, how Many issues have the fascist let us solve, not counting funding the yaesu Sep 2019 #22
Really? notinkansas Sep 2019 #27
Dick "let me apologize for everything" Durbin. stopbush Sep 2019 #28
Impeach & lose the elections? manicdem Sep 2019 #29
It's stupid to pursue this with no chance of winning. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2019 #30
So when do we fight? YOHABLO Sep 2019 #31
When there is a chance to win. GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #49
"werun the risk that people will feel we're ignoring the issues that mean a lot to them as families" eShirl Sep 2019 #32
Only the people can make it happen bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #33
"Don't you guys know? Impeachment's only for us when Republicans don't like us!" ck4829 Sep 2019 #34
Enablers cagefreesoylentgreen Sep 2019 #35
This is why most voters stay home. nt RandiFan1290 Sep 2019 #36
Do you imagine that anything close to a majority supports impeaching Kavanaugh? brooklynite Sep 2019 #38
At the same time, how does acting based on political calculations affect the turnout? KPN Sep 2019 #64
Its been a long time coming, but our republic is seriously broken. Kurt V. Sep 2019 #37
I lulz'd KG Sep 2019 #39
I agree with their approach. Impeachment now is a distraction. Lonestarblue Sep 2019 #40
But Al Franken though....n/t Yavin4 Sep 2019 #41
Being identified as Impeachment Democrats is not constructive empedocles Sep 2019 #42
Senior Democrats are moving quickly to snuff out calls to impeach Brett Kavanaugh... Maxheader Sep 2019 #44
Democrats should impeach Kavanaugh AFTER they control the gov't (house, senate, Oval) CousinIT Sep 2019 #45
Bullies depend on cowards. GeorgeGist Sep 2019 #47
Bullies ARE cowards. athena Sep 2019 #67
Kavanaugh could resign now and give Trump another chance to appoint someone else More_Cowbell Sep 2019 #69
How about if the money trail is ever proven? nt/ bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #70
Oh, for fuck's sake... Blue_Tires Sep 2019 #71
As much as I dislike how Kavanaugh got on the Supreme Court, patphil Sep 2019 #72
Why could I see this coming? LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #74
I can't see impeachment hearings based solely on 30-year old accusations. MadDAsHell Sep 2019 #75
Yeah get real who is not thrilled with a rapist on the highest court in the land for life. onecaliberal Sep 2019 #78
The bar gets lower and lower. CentralMass Sep 2019 #79

question everything

(47,264 posts)
2. Too late
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 10:38 PM
Sep 2019

He was confirmed. And, it appears, that the NYT is now in the dumps.

There are other, more important things to do.

Farmer-Rick

(10,072 posts)
53. It is never too late
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:38 AM
Sep 2019

Impeachment has no statute of limitations for the Supremes. They can always be impeached over and over again if need be. Time for Brett to explain why he whips out his weenie every time he drinks.

Next up impeach Clarance Thomas for sexual harassment and bribery.

question everything

(47,264 posts)
66. Do you really think that going after supreme court justices
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:54 AM
Sep 2019

instead of concentrating on what matters in daily life will endear us to many voters?

Farmer-Rick

(10,072 posts)
68. You misrepresent it
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 12:21 PM
Sep 2019

It's not either or. It's both.

You can not let voters forget what pervs the GOP are. For too long us liberals played nice and polite while knowing full well RepubliCONS were using every dirty trick in the book. The least we can do is constantly remind them of the traitorous, immoral, debauchery and crimes the supposed conservative party commits hourly.

Does little man Putin only uses trolls? Does the NRA ever keep quiet after yet another gun massacre? People are suffering and dying under this corrupt rule and ignoring an opportunity to show their true colors is bringing a knife to a gun fight.

We only have the House. Should we stop there? Should we quit striving for the Senate, the presidency and the courts? Use every tool possible.

rainin

(3,010 posts)
4. Every democrat in the country needs to call Dick Durbin.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 10:39 PM
Sep 2019

Let one democrat feel the sting of our ire. It can be a message to our leadership that we're serious about fighting back. Republicans have changed our government by fighting... not by deciding to fail before the fight begins.

cstanleytech

(26,080 posts)
12. This issue isnt the Democrats the issue is the math and finding a way to get the number of votes to
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:10 PM
Sep 2019

convict him is simply probably not going to happen.
What would happen though is the Repugnant leadership would get together in a secret meeting and hash out what of theirs is most vulnerable to a Democratic challenger like Collins and they would have her and some others vote to convict.
They will not allow enough to vote to convict that he is actually removed from office but they will do enough to try and take the wind out of our sails before the election.
A better plan is simply to hold their feet to the fire as we get up to the election and beyond and if he should win then seek impeachment in 2021 just before the next round of elections.

brooklynite

(93,843 posts)
43. You want to launch an Impeachment inquiry based on no actual evidence?
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 07:53 AM
Sep 2019

Other than an unsupported third party claim? That'll work.

Farmer-Rick

(10,072 posts)
55. Maybe let the FBI do an investigation of the weenie whipper
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:42 AM
Sep 2019

Before we claim there is no evidence.

The man has serious psychological problems if he whips it out every time he drinks.

Let's actually do an investigation and not a mere background check.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
48. Except for all the democrats that agree with him. And there a bunch.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:04 AM
Sep 2019

Same with trump.

Failed impeachments threaten us in 2020.

That is not why we won in 18.

Its healthcare. Our first, second and third message. That is how we win suburbia.

Butterflylady

(3,523 posts)
51. That is notm why we won in 18
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:18 AM
Sep 2019

We won because people woke up to what is going on and know we we need democrats to get something done. We let it continue and we lose. Durbin is wrong.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
52. Respectfully, but you are incorrect.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:23 AM
Sep 2019

All post election polling showed that our promise to defend healthcare against republicans continued attack is what swayed the suburban voters, mainly female, to switch to voting Democratic. And they could easily switch back and give a shit about impeachment. But they care deeply about healthcare for their families.

We do not have the power to remove anyone from office. An impeachment with no conviction is a win for trump.

grumpyduck

(6,197 posts)
5. So these people ate thinking about
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 10:42 PM
Sep 2019

the short-term political gain instead of the long-term result to the country?

Seriously?

calguy

(5,222 posts)
18. Yes. Seriously.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:48 PM
Sep 2019

We can't afford to get distracted by this sideshow. Get real.Defeating trump is job ONE. Any time wasted on sideshows simply helps trump. An attempt to impeach Weiner Boy would only motivate on the fence republicans to show up at the polls and make our job number one harder to achieve.

Farmer-Rick

(10,072 posts)
56. Dems can walk and chew gum at the same time
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:50 AM
Sep 2019

Keep little weenie whipper on his toes by constantly bringing up all his foul and illegal sexual conduct. Brett needs to know he maybe gone soon enough.

Then next up Clarence "pubic hair on my coke," and Long Dong Silver Thomas...and don't forget how his wife took bribes and he never reported them for 6 years.

reACTIONary

(5,749 posts)
59. Its not a distraction for us...
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:13 AM
Sep 2019

... it's a distraction and diversion for the electorate. And when he doesn't get convicted (which he won't be), it becomes a victory for the repugs.

Farmer-Rick

(10,072 posts)
62. Nah..that's not what I meant
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:24 AM
Sep 2019

We should keep threatening impeachment....not necessarily ever sending it to Moscow Mitch.

The Moscow Mitch Senate will never impeach. But keeping his crimes in front of the public will keep the weenie whipper on his toes And remind voters what pervs the GOP is.

I also believe we should do this with Traitor Trump.

reACTIONary

(5,749 posts)
63. I think you are right...
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:17 AM
Sep 2019

.... A background noise of investigations and "leaks" will serve as a foil to high light the foreground policy and character campaign .

dweller

(23,559 posts)
6. so, Dem House, pass some more bills
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 10:44 PM
Sep 2019

that Moscow Mitch can ignore !

yeh, progress aka .. winning 🙄

or is that pronounced
'whinging' ... 'whining' ?

😑


✌🏼

durablend

(7,415 posts)
7. Great idea Dick
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 10:48 PM
Sep 2019

“We’ve got to get beyond this ‘impeachment is the answer to every problem.’ It’s not realistic,” Durbin said. “If that’s how we are identified in Congress, as the impeachment Congress, we run the risk that people will feel we’re ignoring the issues that mean a lot to them as families.”

When Trump burns the country to the ground, those "kitchen table" issues won't mean shit anyway.

regnaD kciN

(26,035 posts)
25. I am SO F*CKING SICK of these "bread-and-butter issues" Democrats...
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 01:38 AM
Sep 2019

I don't see how they fail to realize that, barring a major economic collapse, Trump WINS on "bread-and-butter issues." Because, while we can nitpick about how he just inherited Obama's economy, or that virtually all the gains are going to the top, the fact remains that most people aren't doing badly right now. Unemployment is pretty low, the financial indicators seem to be good. Trump certainly hasn't botched the economy (yet). If we want the 2020 election to be about whether voters feel comfortable with the economy, we better start planning for who will be the candidate with the best chance of beating Ivanka in 2024.


SCantiGOP

(13,855 posts)
8. Good
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 10:48 PM
Sep 2019

He is not going to be impeached, so why are we encouraging the distraction and helping the GOP raise money?
47 Dems in the Senate; 67 votes needed for impeachment. Please explain the path to victory before you start trashing the Democrats who don’t want to waste time and political capital on this.

ripcord

(5,081 posts)
61. Most of this is based on the Times article and they fucked up big time
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 10:20 AM
Sep 2019

The correction in the article made it look like a hit piece and throws shade on anyone not supporting impeachment.

Voltaire2

(12,610 posts)
73. Well at least get the terminology correct.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 01:51 PM
Sep 2019

Impeachment happens in the House, not the Senate.

So yes, Trump, Kavanaugh, the whole set of forknuts can be impeached.

chowder66

(9,010 posts)
9. IMO I thought they should have asked for him to resign to keep from sounding impeachment crazy.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 10:50 PM
Sep 2019

Then they could go after him later.
If they are planning on going after Barr that would make 3.
That's a lot of work and Trump is already akin to probably 666 impeachment investigations.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
10. Durbin, we've got to get beyond impeachment is the answer to everything.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:02 PM
Sep 2019

Maybe impeachment is the only answer..

Locutusofborg

(524 posts)
46. Can you name the 19 Republican Senators
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:42 AM
Sep 2019

Who might possibly be open to voting Trump or Kavanaugh guilty in an impeachment trial? Without those 19 Senate Republicans, impeachment leads to a not guilty verdict and Trump/Kavanaugh vindication.

cstanleytech

(26,080 posts)
11. He is probably right as the Democrats simply do not have nearly enough seats and
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:03 PM
Sep 2019

anyone that thinks there is a chance enough Repugnants would finally do the right thing for the right reason is unfortunately mistaken.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
13. let's decide everything by what the republicans think about it...
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:10 PM
Sep 2019

and whether it will be successful or not. ONLY play if you can win.

Fuck right or wrong and "the rule of law"...

You do what is right BECAUSE it is right. To do anything else is surrender.

This attitude will be the death of the democratic party.

TwilightZone

(25,342 posts)
14. It has nothing to do with what Republicans think about it.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:26 PM
Sep 2019

It has to do with simple math, specifically the number 67.

3Hotdogs

(12,207 posts)
15. Impeachment for Beer Bong Weenie Waver* is going straight up
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:40 PM
Sep 2019

the NY Time's ass.

"Witness" for plaintiff worked for Hillary. Who is gonna believe him.

Other "victim" doesn't recall it happened.


Impeachment process will be nothing but ammo for Fox and claims of Democratic harassment and fake news.


*I didn't make that one up.

TomSlick

(11,032 posts)
16. Impeachment of Kavanaugh is a fever dream.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:44 PM
Sep 2019

The ship has sailed. At this point, we need to make sure it doesn't happen again.

regnaD kciN

(26,035 posts)
26. Ironically, it will be a lot harder then...
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 01:44 AM
Sep 2019

The sad fact is that, if enough blew up in Rapey Brett's face over the next month to make him a major public embarrassment, the only chance we'd have of getting impeachment and conviction would be while Trump remains in office, because, if the scandal is bad enough, we might get Republicans to join in knowing that Donnie will get the chance to replace him with another conservative. But, if a Democrat becomes president? There's no way you're going to get even one single Republican to vote to convict during an impeachment trial if they know that, by doing so, they'd remove a reliable conservative vote and replace him with a justice nominated by President Biden/Warren/Sanders/whoever. Even if, to use the old saying, Rapey Brett was found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy, they'd make sure he stays on the court, because anything would be preferable to -- gasp! -- a liberal.

exboyfil

(17,857 posts)
54. Then keep him and hope he drinks himself into an early grave
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:41 AM
Sep 2019

Whoever replaces him before the Congress is seated will vote just the same and may be more stable. Probably will live longer as well.

Hope Thomas refuses to step down before Jan, 2021. That really is the only hope right now. That and Ginsburg making it to Jan, 2021. And the Democrats getting 50 Senators. And the Presidency.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,282 posts)
65. Republicans are not going to join in. McConnell will keep them in check.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:32 AM
Sep 2019

Except for Susan Collins. She'll wring her hands, talk about impeachment, and at the last second will vote the way McConnell wants.

PufPuf23

(8,687 posts)
19. Too bad the Democratic party leadership didn't start putting as much
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 12:07 AM
Sep 2019

effort into impeachment a year plus ago as they have put into talking down impeachment and telling the Democratic base that impeachment was unreasonable (or we have to wait for ….).

The way to get legislation passed to benefit families is to impeach Trump and stop the GOP tatcics of delay and packing agencies and the courts with right wing ass hats.

I don't find Durbin very realistic

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
21. Every problem?
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 12:26 AM
Sep 2019

We have a crazy unfit President and Kavanaugh doesn't deserve his job. Nobody is talking about impeaching Gorsuch.

I doubt there is much Congress can do for me and my family with Trump in charge.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
22. ignoring the issues?, so, how Many issues have the fascist let us solve, not counting funding the
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 12:53 AM
Sep 2019

fascist government, filling the courts with fascist judges and military pending? how about zero!

notinkansas

(1,095 posts)
27. Really?
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 02:14 AM
Sep 2019

Being known as the impeachment Congress would be a huge step forward for the do-nothing Senate.

Like Moscow Mitch really cares about issues families face? Or the rest of the repubs?

stopbush

(24,376 posts)
28. Dick "let me apologize for everything" Durbin.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 02:50 AM
Sep 2019

One of the Ds who is always ready to confirm that Ds will apologize at the drop of a hat, as opposed to Rs who never apologize for anything.

Guess who Americans like better.

manicdem

(386 posts)
29. Impeach & lose the elections?
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 02:53 AM
Sep 2019

Would you take putting Trump and Kavanaugh before an impeachment investigation in exchange for losing the 2020 Presidential election and the House?

That's what it seems like is going to happen.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,461 posts)
30. It's stupid to pursue this with no chance of winning.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 03:05 AM
Sep 2019

I’m sorry but he’s right. We walked right into a trap with this, aided by a planted story in the NYT. In my opinion this was a planned ratfucking and some of our top candidates took the bait without even thinking about it. We look foolish.

eShirl

(18,466 posts)
32. "werun the risk that people will feel we're ignoring the issues that mean a lot to them as families"
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 06:16 AM
Sep 2019

WE ALREADY FEEL THAT WAY

bucolic_frolic

(42,661 posts)
33. Only the people can make it happen
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 06:39 AM
Sep 2019

No 60% Senate majority, no impeachment. And that would still need Republican patriots, which last time I looked, are nowhere to be counted.

KPN

(15,585 posts)
64. At the same time, how does acting based on political calculations affect the turnout?
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:31 AM
Sep 2019

Why do people decide not to vote? For some, it is a conscious decision. How many times have I heard -- especially from younger people -- things like "they're all politicians; they say and do whatever will get them the most votes/keep them in office?"; "they're just out for themselves, not what's good/right for the people." We are talking about Democratic and D-leaning voters here.

In my mind, at worst it's a wash -- so, let's do what's right ... and by doing so, energize our voters, energize our base.

Lonestarblue

(9,874 posts)
40. I agree with their approach. Impeachment now is a distraction.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 07:44 AM
Sep 2019

Kavanaugh is the epitome of the whiney privileged kid believes he is above everyone else and has gotten away with nasty behavior his whole life. No, he does not belong on the Supreme Court, but it would be better to suggest that if he were a decent human being he would resign rather than threaten impeachment.

Democrats need to focus, not go in many different directions. They are no calling enough attention to bills passed already that Moscow Mitch is killing single handedly. I think they would be better served to have at most two committees investigating Trump for impeachment: one focusing on obstruction and the other focusing on emoluments and Trump’s self enrichment. Even to this committed Democrat, it’s hard to understand what the various committees are doing.

Maxheader

(4,366 posts)
44. Senior Democrats are moving quickly to snuff out calls to impeach Brett Kavanaugh...
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:27 AM
Sep 2019

arguing those tactics are unrealistic and politically harmful.


Translation: "When figured into our schedule, it would cut into our fall, winter, spring and
summer vaca...er...recesses...


Recess is a general term for a period in which a group of people are temporarily dismissed from their duties.

CousinIT

(9,151 posts)
45. Democrats should impeach Kavanaugh AFTER they control the gov't (house, senate, Oval)
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:30 AM
Sep 2019

IOW, AFTER 2020/2021. Kavanaugh will be there. It's not like they don't know where to find him or the witnesses against him. There is some TIME. They can concentrate on 2020 for right now, impeach the rapist later.

More_Cowbell

(2,190 posts)
69. Kavanaugh could resign now and give Trump another chance to appoint someone else
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 12:48 PM
Sep 2019

I'm hoping that we win everything in 2020 and we make a deal with him and the GOP that he will resign and we won't expand the court.

I know that means that he escapes justice, but I think that he'll never be punished for his numerous crimes, anyway.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
71. Oh, for fuck's sake...
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 01:23 PM
Sep 2019

We all know DAMN fuckin' well what the GOP would be doing at this very moment if Kavanaugh was an Obama appointee...

(No, they wouldn't impeach him, but they WOULD browbeat and shame Dem leadership to the point where we'd twist his arm into resigning himself.)

patphil

(6,024 posts)
72. As much as I dislike how Kavanaugh got on the Supreme Court,
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 01:25 PM
Sep 2019

I think this is an unnecessary distraction at this time.
I would rather wait until after the 2020 election to pursue the matter further.
It's impossible to successfully pursue now, and if he resigned, Trump would just put another swamp creature on the court...someone who might not be vulnerable to removal for past actions and could give the Republicans decades of right wing conservative rulings.
It might even be easier to pursue this is civil court.
In any event, we need a non-partisan Justice Department to get any real investigation done.
That isn't going to happen until 2021.

Patrick Phillips

LiberalLovinLug

(14,153 posts)
74. Why could I see this coming?
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 02:18 PM
Sep 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/05/us/politics/kavanaugh-house-investigation.html

House Democrat (Nadler) Promises Kavanaugh Investigation if Party Wins Control!


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/16/house-judiciary-kavanaugh-impeachment-1498124

Judiciary chairman (Nadler) throws cold water on Kavanaugh impeachment



Why not both?????? Why does it have to be one or the other?

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/impeach-both-trump-and-kavanaugh/

Impeach Trump and Kavanaugh Both
 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
75. I can't see impeachment hearings based solely on 30-year old accusations.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:29 PM
Sep 2019

The Cons will drum up an equal number of folks to deny. We can't prove he's lying if we can't prove he did it.

We need to find some real damning evidence they can't refute.

onecaliberal

(32,478 posts)
78. Yeah get real who is not thrilled with a rapist on the highest court in the land for life.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 09:19 PM
Sep 2019

For fucks sake.

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