Trump says US 'locked and loaded depending on verification' of attack on Saudi oil field

[JudyM]

Source: CNN

President Donald Trump on Sunday evening tweeted that ... "Saudi Arabia oil supply was attacked. There is reason to believe that we know the culprit, are locked and loaded depending on verification, but are waiting to hear from the Kingdom as to who they believe was the cause of this attack, and under what terms we would proceed!" Trump said.
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Trump tweeted ...Sunday that it is "incorrect" to say he is "willing to meet with Iran, 'No Condition,'" a contradiction of his own administration. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Thursday that the President, "has said he would sit down with (Iranian President Hassan) Rouhani with no conditions."...
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Three CNN military experts have examined the private satellite photos.
Ret. Col. Cedric Leighton, who is an intelligence expert with a focus in imagery, said the images do help support the Trump administration's claim that the drones likely came from Iraq or Iran, but cautioned that they're not definitive... Ret. Gen. Mark Hertling said the images "really don't show anything, other than pretty good accuracy on the strike of the oil tanks. Ret. Adm. John Kirby echoed this point, stating "there is nothing I see in these pictures which confirms a launch from any particular location."
"I'm struck by the precision of the strikes. Almost pin-prick," Kirby said. "Certainly possible with (unmanned aerial vehicles). But again, that doesn't really confirm anything."

Rouhani did not specifically reference the attack on the Saudi Arabia's oil facilities in an address on Iran's Press TV Sunday but did accuse Americans of running a "war operation" by "supporting the UAE and Saudi Arabia, transferring weapons, and providing intelligence."


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/15/politics/trump-us-saudi-arabia-attack-iran-iraq/index.html

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Insanity... is he taking direction from the Saudis now?

[dflprincess]

1. "Trump tweeted Sunday that it is "incorrect" to say he is "willing to meet with Iran, 'No Condition"

Yet, there is this:

Link to tweet

[CottonBear]

2. INSANITY! WTF?7

President Donald Trump on Sunday evening tweeted that ... "Saudi Arabia oil supply was attacked. There is reason to believe that we know the culprit, are locked and loaded depending on verification, but are waiting to hear from the Kingdom as to who they believe was the cause of this attack, and under what terms we would proceed!" Trump said.

He’s taking direction from the goddamn Saudis.

[The Liberal Lion]

3. +The same man who just announced a flavor ban on e-cigs based on faulty information

is now announcing a potential strike against Iran based on verification by the Saudi government who provided all the "information" regarding the assignation of Jamal Khashoggi. Hmmmmm

Go ahead, let that sink in.

[Jedi Guy]

19. We wouldn't want US military personnel to be exposed to the chemicals in e-cigs, would we?

If they sicken or die as a result, Dolt 45 will have fewer young men and women to send into the meat grinder for bogus reasons.

He's gonna rush into a war with Iran in hopes it creates the "rally 'round the flag" effect and boosts him going into the 2020 campaign. If/when the shooting starts, the usual suspects on the right will start in with the "criticism is disloyalty/treason" chant again, just like they did with the invasion of Iraq.

If we're gonna time-warp to 2003, can we at least get a reset on the cost of living and the progression of climate change?

[Botany]

4. And a war between Iran and the Saudis needs US ..

.... interference how?

Btw nice job breaking the Iran/6 nation deal Donny.

[Sapient Donkey]

5. If the Saudis feel confident this was an Iranian attack

then have them lead the way with their own troops and diplomatic efforts to get the world on their side.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

45. Let the Saudis defend themselves.

We have been giving them BILLIONS of dollars in aid, weapons and the materiel of war for decades.

They brought this down on their own heads when they decided to launch a proxy war in Yemen.

Let them fight their own battles.

[yaesu]

6. The saudi king must have the US king over a financial barrel nt

[KPN]

28. This

[Baked Potato]

7. Maybe they're threatening to call in his loans

Imagine what this clunker could do if he was charismatic or had any leadership qualities...

[Newest Reality]

8. Bingo!

Concerning events like these, Trump would drool at a chance to get some conflict going and find his, "mission accomplished" moment. The ratings precedent was set by W.

Somebody has to burn the Reichstag for him in some way and as troubling as that is, we can only hope that something like that does not emerge between now and the new President. It might.

[SCVDem]

9. How is this a clear and present danger,

worth risking our service members and treasure.

What's in it for us?

Stand down military!

That's an order from we the people!

[Haggis for Breakfast]

46. AFFIRMATIVE.

[C_U_L8R]

10. Only Trump could start the world's dumbest war

He seems to want an election war.... that will tank the economy. D'oh.

[keithbvadu2]

40. "He seems to want an election war"

"He seems to want an election war"

[bucolic_frolic]

11. "under what terms we would proceed"

Jaw-dropping. Is this because there are no adults in the room anymore? Trump can't make quality decisions. This could escalate into a major crisis.

[Strelnikov_]

15. Waiting for orders from his Saudi masters

With confirmation from the boss in Moscow.

Who wins in the event of a war that destroys ME oil infrastructure?

Russia

[JohnnyRingo]

12. No one has mentioned motive, have they?

What would Iran gain from such an attack?

Certainly terrorists would do it just to strike fear and influence, but that's not the kind of thing a nation state would have reason to do.

[Strelnikov_]

14. Iran has no motive

They are holding out their ability to strike the Sunni oil facilities as a preventative to a strike by US forces (acting as a proxy for KSA).

Why would they shoot the hostage before Swat has even shown up?

[NoodleyAppendage]

17. 2020 Re-election

It’s pretty evident and transparent what the motive is in this incident. A pretext to war to help Trump’s flagging poll numbers ahead of the 2020 election. It’s an autocrat 101 move.

[JohnnyRingo]

21. "I'm a war president".

I'll never forget when GW Bush uttered those ominous words at an re-election rally. His implication that he deserved a second term because only he has the secret plan to the war he started was shameless.

For a man who's sensor for shame was surgically removed at birth, I can imaging the phrase being: "I'm a Ten Star General". and "If I don't win the election I'll have to end the Iran War the fast way.

[rockfordfile]

13. Trump's trying to get Americans killed for Saudi oil. It was Saudis that attacked us on 9/11

[roamer65]

18. Fuck Trump and Fuck the House of Saud.

[Javaman]

16. you want your false flag I'll give you your false flag...

you claim, Iran bombed the oil fields, then you drop a few misses on on Tehran.

then there is some sort of "sleeper cell", we are told, that blew up something here.

then you get your dictator/generalissimo on. don't forget the gold shoulder braids!

the fucking orange asshole wagging the dog .

[moreland01]

20. Both vehicles.

We filled our tanks today.

[KPN]

29. Ditto

[TexasBushwhacker]

22. SA has bigly military might of its own

Why do we have to assist them. After all, most of the 9/11 terrorists came from SA.

[Jeroen]

23. Putin, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman greet each other with huge smiles, handshake at G-20

Of course, this has nothing to do with all of this

[pbmus]

24. ........

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12512665305

[muriel_volestrangler]

25. This means he's got his first erection since June

when he tweeted the country was "cocked and loaded".

[Kablooie]

26. Oh God. Here we go again!

They want to attack Iran so anything is used for an excuse.
It's just the Republican way.
They love starting unending, unwinnable wars.
That's all they think government is good for.

[Takket]

27. Uh huh. Let's see what 2014 drumpf has to say

Link to tweet

?s=21

[bucolic_frolic]

30. Gasoline prices up 4% this morning

Another great surprise of the Trump foreign policy! Make America Pay Again

[duforsure]

31. Is this really just another scheme from putin

With the help from trump and the prince? Another war to hurt our economy for putin's revenge? To make him billions from it and trump to get contractors funneled money to his campaign then into his pockets? To help the prince by hurting Iran? I think it is. This looks very corrupt , and they're claims suspect, and a clear pattern from these criminals.

[crazytown]

32. And Bibi's big election is tomorrow.

[Maxheader]

33. Drones..

Who'd thunk big brother would have thought of this? All the history behind usofa provocation to start a war? Grenada , , americun students in danger.. panama, noriega exporting dope to the masses...
And now drones..bombing stumpys buddies oil refineries...and those guys bombing and killing innocent people in yemen, to kill a few fundys..

I mean will stumpy call out the guard on college students protesting the new war... another kent state?

The liberals better use the war card real heavy..."Do you want your children to be killed in a new war"....then vote for the liberal..xxxx...whoever, anyone but the yellow haired traitor...

[nwduke]

34. Who does he think he is,

Rambo? Locked and loaded! What an idiot! Instead of having a coalition of allies, Rambo goes on a go it alone path being advised by a pack of hawkish imbeciles!

[keithbvadu2]

41. Did Bolton sneak back into the WH?

Did Bolton sneak back into the WH?

[usaf-vet]

35. He is going to WAG the Dog! Then whine I'm a war president leave me alone.

And sadly IMHO he will get away with stopping all investigations BUT he will still spend millions of our tax dollars to play golf.

[durablend]

43. Can't impeach a war president (TM), don'tchaknow!

[PhoenixDem]

36. oh brother

how far have we sunk? We have now become a private mercenary security force for the Saudis.

[CountAllVotes]

37. Locked and loaded!

Oh yeah dump. Oh yeah!

Get this fraud OUT OF OFFICE ASAP!

He is a danger to the entire world!

#dumptRump !!

[Sudsy]

38. Possible perpetrator of Saudi oil attack:

Houthi rebels
Iran
Israel
Saud Arabia
Russia
US

[durablend]

42. You forgot

Obama
Hillary's emails
Nancy Pelosi
AOC
"the Democrat party"
"the fake news media"

[Bayard]

39. "waiting to hear from the Kingdom as to who they believe was the cause of this attack"

That could be anybody! What if they decide it was Israel? He's just going to take the Saudi's word for it, then go bomb the shit out of some other country?

Oil is certainly no reason to kill a bunch of people, or go to war. We've played that game before.

[BHDem53]

44. I thought maybe he was talking about

his tax returns and his Depends.