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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:56 PM Sep 2019

Trump Flirts With $15 Billion Bailout for Iran, Sources Say

Source: Daily Beast

President Donald Trump has left the impression with foreign officials, members of his administration, and others involved in Iranian negotiations that he is actively considering a French plan to extend a $15 billion credit line to the Iranians if Tehran comes back into compliance with the Obama-era nuclear deal.

Trump has in recent weeks shown openness to entertaining President Emmanuel Macron’s plan, according to four sources with knowledge of Trump’s conversations with the French leader. Two of those sources said that State Department officials, including Secretary Mike Pompeo, are also open to weighing the French proposal, which would effectively ease the economic sanctions regime that the Trump administration has applied on Tehran for more than a year.

The deal put forth by France would compensate Iran for oil sales disrupted by American sanctions. A large portion of Iran’s economy relies on cash from oil sales. Most of that money is frozen in bank accounts across the globe. The $15 billion credit line would be guaranteed by Iranian oil. In exchange for the cash, Iran would have to come back into compliance with the nuclear accord it signed with the world’s major powers in 2015. Tehran would also have to agree not to threaten the security of the Persian Gulf or to impede maritime navigation in the area. Lastly, Tehran would have to commit to regional Middle East talks in the future.

While Trump has been skeptical of helping Iran without preconditions, In public, the president has in public at least hinted at an openness to considering Macron’s pitch for placating the Iranian government—a move intended to help bring the Iranians to the negotiating table and to rescue the nuclear agreement that Trump and his former national security adviser John Bolton worked so hard to torpedo.

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-flirts-with-dollar15-billion-bailout-for-iran-sources-say?via=twitter_page

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Trump Flirts With $15 Billion Bailout for Iran, Sources Say (Original Post) demmiblue Sep 2019 OP
Great businessman. The greatest. NickB79 Sep 2019 #1
So...bribe them a $billion more than he says Obama did? lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #40
ROFLMAO bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #2
... BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #3
Is this the 'F'Art of the Deal. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #27
! BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #33
So Trump pulled out of the agreement, imposed sanctions, Iran then pulled out too muriel_volestrangler Sep 2019 #4
I would presume the world easily has $15B of Iran's oil money frozen ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #6
This was called "opening line of credit" Bradical79 Sep 2019 #39
You succinctly outlined it. I understood all, but please do not ask me to repeat sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #31
What a moran ... unbelievable ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #5
Psycho Iliyah Sep 2019 #7
Satire writers must be getting migraines trying to think of stories. Flaleftist Sep 2019 #8
They would be stupid to trust Trumps word. nt cstanleytech Sep 2019 #9
All "great" deal makers pay kickbacks. nt NCjack Sep 2019 #10
Welcome to the bizzaro world of Trump. patphil Sep 2019 #11
So it's ok for Trump to pay Iran. The Republicans doc03 Sep 2019 #12
I am the world's greatest negotiator believe me. nt doc03 Sep 2019 #13
But please bluevoter4life Sep 2019 #14
Speak Loudly and carry a Little Stick. n/t MarcA Sep 2019 #15
tRump wants Iran to obey Obama treaty that tRump abrogated because tRump said it was a bad deal. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #16
Trump blinked today on Iran and China. Mr. Hannity is not going to like this. Midnight Writer Sep 2019 #17
Hannity has probably already put the kibosh on that. n/t brewens Sep 2019 #18
Bolton's first shot? crazytown Sep 2019 #19
Hey World. Pull my finger. rickford66 Sep 2019 #20
Uh-huh jmowreader Sep 2019 #21
you realize he a fucking lunatic.. we'll have to wait and see. mountain grammy Sep 2019 #22
Today williness rpannier Sep 2019 #23
He wants to pay them 15 billion to do what they were doing for free? Takket Sep 2019 #24
It's a good deal. It really is. Trump is a businessman. He knows what he is doing. Sapient Donkey Sep 2019 #29
Glad I scrolled down. My exact thought. underpants Sep 2019 #34
Lend them taxpayer money? Roy Rolling Sep 2019 #25
Wait a goddamn minute C_U_L8R Sep 2019 #26
Should be interesting to see what his cheerleaders at Fox News say about this.... Sapient Donkey Sep 2019 #28
Yes, they are perfectly OK with that Zambero Sep 2019 #35
Not opposed to something like this, although don't trust trump to follow through. Hoyt Sep 2019 #30
It appears he's going 'round in circles and the money is going down the drain. truthisfreedom Sep 2019 #32
This guy is the worst business person in the history of time. He bashes Obama for giving Iranians Vinca Sep 2019 #36
But Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2019 #37
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Recursion Sep 2019 #38
Once again, nixing a deal and creating a crisis so that he can "solve" it. LudwigPastorius Sep 2019 #41

muriel_volestrangler

(101,307 posts)
4. So Trump pulled out of the agreement, imposed sanctions, Iran then pulled out too
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 07:05 PM
Sep 2019

and now Trump supports $15bn of credit (paid for by whom?) for Iran to make up for the damage he did to their economy, In return for Iran going back to the agreement he was the first one to break. And for them not "threatenings the security of the Persian Gulf or impeding maritime navigation in the area", which they weren't, before he tore up the agreement. And committing to talks.

Net result: he screwed with the world economy, and the livelihoods of many Iranians, for a promise of talks.

What an asshole.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. I would presume the world easily has $15B of Iran's oil money frozen ...
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 07:09 PM
Sep 2019

Just like when Obama 'gave Iran billions!' according to IQ45 ... really it was just un-frozen Iranian money. And that was like $130B IIRC.

I imagine it'd work the same this time, assuming that much is frozen somewhere in the world.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
39. This was called "opening line of credit"
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 04:07 PM
Sep 2019

So wouldn't that be a loan rather than unfreezing of their own assets?

sprinkleeninow

(20,237 posts)
31. You succinctly outlined it. I understood all, but please do not ask me to repeat
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 12:12 AM
Sep 2019

what I just read. 🙃 😌

"Is it soup [impeachment] yet?"

Very good!

patphil

(6,169 posts)
11. Welcome to the bizzaro world of Trump.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:08 PM
Sep 2019

Fuck everything up and then take credit for "fixing" it.
Or is this just one of his many pretend deals?

doc03

(35,325 posts)
12. So it's ok for Trump to pay Iran. The Republicans
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:11 PM
Sep 2019

raised hell because Obama gave them their own money back.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,999 posts)
16. tRump wants Iran to obey Obama treaty that tRump abrogated because tRump said it was a bad deal.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:36 PM
Sep 2019

He wants us to believe that only he can fix the crisis that he created.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
21. Uh-huh
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:28 PM
Sep 2019

If President Obama would have proposed offering a $15 billion bribe to the Iranians, the first person to call for Obama’s impeachment would have been Donald Trump.

Roy Rolling

(6,915 posts)
25. Lend them taxpayer money?
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:59 PM
Sep 2019

Or, rather, the money we borrow from China to finance the services people like Trump refuse to pay taxes for? He’s happy to lend someone else’s money.

C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
26. Wait a goddamn minute
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 11:04 PM
Sep 2019

So Republicans get foaming-at-the-mouth rabid when Obama gave the Iranians their own money back... but they're okay with their orange trump-sphincter giving them a gigantic handout??

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
28. Should be interesting to see what his cheerleaders at Fox News say about this....
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 11:18 PM
Sep 2019

I'm sure Hannity will come up with a reason about how this was Trump's plan all along and that needlessly messing things up so that it ends up costing Americans 15-billion dollars is a good a thing. I'm just not sure how they'll do it.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
35. Yes, they are perfectly OK with that
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:07 PM
Sep 2019

Basically reinstate our role in the international agreement brokered by John Kerry during the Obama administration, throw in a few more billions of U.S. $$$ in for good measure, and claim full credit with photo-op. Another WIN!!!

truthisfreedom

(23,145 posts)
32. It appears he's going 'round in circles and the money is going down the drain.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 02:24 AM
Sep 2019

Sounds like one of his casinos.

Vinca

(50,267 posts)
36. This guy is the worst business person in the history of time. He bashes Obama for giving Iranians
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:34 PM
Sep 2019

their own money back, but now he wants to shovel $15 billion taxpayer dollars at them. How many more months of this can the country endure? We're headed the way of the casino.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
38. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 03:39 PM
Sep 2019

Sorry, one second...

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA



This stable genius has now given up all the guarantees of the Iran deal, and still is talking about giving them the money.

Art of the deal...

LudwigPastorius

(9,137 posts)
41. Once again, nixing a deal and creating a crisis so that he can "solve" it.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 05:29 PM
Sep 2019

See: NAFTA, South Korean Trade Deal (KORUS), Trans Pacific Partnership, etc.
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