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Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:57 PM

E.P.A. Says It Will Drastically Reduce Animal Testing

Source: New York Times



The Environmental Protection Agency said on Tuesday that it would move away from requiring the testing of potentially harmful chemicals on animals, a decision that was hailed by animal rights groups but criticized by environmentalists and researchers who said the practice was necessary to rigorously safeguard human health.

The E.P.A. Administrator Andrew Wheeler said the agency plans to reduce the amount of studies that involve mammal testing by 30 percent by 2025, and to eliminate the studies entirely by 2035, though some may still be approved on a case-by-case basis. The agency said it would also invest $4.25 million in projects at four universities and a medical center that are developing alternate ways of testing chemicals that do not involve animals. “We can protect human health and the environment by using cutting-edge, ethically sound science in our decision-making that efficiently and cost-effectively evaluates potential effects without animal testing,” Mr. Wheeler said in a memo announcing the changes.

The E.P.A. has for decades required testing on a variety of animals — including rats, dogs, birds and fish — to gauge their toxicity before the chemicals can be bought, sold or used in the environment. The agency could not immediately provide a breakdown of how many of its tests involve mammals — the target of the reductions announced Tuesday — versus animals that are not mammals. Animal testing helps manufacturers prove to the E.P.A. that their chemicals meet federal safety standards. The tests are typically conducted by outside parties, and the E.P.A. analyzes the data.

The practice of testing with animals has long prompted complex debates driven by passionate views on morality and scientific imperative. Reaction to Tuesday’s announcement was no different. “We are really excited as this has been something we’ve wanted for quite some time,” said Kitty Block, the president and chief executive of the Humane Society of the United States, an animal protection organization. “The alternatives are the future. They’re more efficient and save lives.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/climate/epa-animal-testing.html

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:03 PM

1. Yay!

There is just not much gained from this data anyway and it's horrible for the animals! We know that you shouldn't get shampoo in your eyes. Animal models do not accurately predict what will happen in humans. Our science has evolved to be able to predict more reliably, the effect of certain compounds on humans and other living things. If we put more into that research, we could do even beter.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:16 PM

2. Well THAT'S good news.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:43 PM

3. in other news:

the orange asshole tells EPA to shut the fuck up and never stop testing otherwise funds will be cut off. a poorly drawn sharpie cartoon of a mouse was on the memo.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:50 PM

4. This admin ONLY does things for the wrong reasons.

You can bet they’re doing this to save corporate $.

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:25 PM

20. Yep. And to rush unvetted products to market.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:16 PM

5. Excellent!

Millions of animals have died or been tortured in the name of testing and research. Should have ended long ago.

When my ex worked at a university that had a med school, he said there was one dog that kept getting its legs amputated so med students could practice surgical skills to sew it back on. He said no matter what they did to the poor dog though, its tail was always wagging.....

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:20 PM

6. Probably because they are testing on humans instead. Just release the chemicals into the air!!!! nt

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Response to chowder66 (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:38 PM

7. With the protections that they already removed

Humans are the test animals.

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Response to They_Live (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:53 PM

9. When I see the ads for meds on tv and the list of death causing side effects it makes me wonder if

any testing ever went on for it or if that's their way of announcing... hey, we haven't reliably tested this so we are advertising it as a possible solution for this ailment but here are all of the things that could go wrong.

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Response to chowder66 (Reply #9)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 05:06 PM

12. "Don't take this medication if you are allergic to it."

My favorite.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:52 PM

8. I don't see this as good news.

The goal of the EPA under this administration is to fast track untested drugs into our medicine cabinets. They don't give the proverbial lab rat's ass about animals.

People who would cheer the protection of animals in favor of testing on human guinea pigs are blinded by their divine love of dumb animals over my grandchildren.

Late night tv ads in a few years will all use this format: Were you prescribed ____ in the '20s? Call the offices of Cyrus, Taylor, and Swift today!

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:59 PM

10. As a matter of fact, I do love animals more than your grandchildren. (Who also happen to be animals)

There's nothing magic about your grandchildren that makes them any more important than any other life on earth.

Humans and their hubris are destroying the planet. It's about time we started valuing other lives than just our own.
It will come back to bite us in the end, once we destroy the web of life that supports us.

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Response to Coventina (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:26 PM

14. I'm sure screening drugs on animals will not cause extinctions.

Nor will it cause a collapse of the global ecosystem.

My oldest is a caring nurse and the others have promising careers that can make the world a better place to live as well. Can your fucking lab rat do that?

People are indeed special, including you.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #14)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:58 PM

16. I never said people aren't special. All animals are special. Homo sapiens isn't more special.

We've trashed the planet and exploited other species in the misbegotten notion that somehow we matter more than other life.

Bottom line is, we don't.

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Response to Coventina (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:15 PM

17. I was an honest to God long hair flower power bell bottomed....

...draft card burning free love hippie in the '60s, and I think you're taking the whole zen thing a little too far man. We didn't wear Earth Shoes because they were spider friendly.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #17)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:54 PM

18. I assure you, I am far from being an orthodox Zen practitioner.

In Zen monasteries, laundry is done on certain days with proper incantations said for the souls of the bacteria being killed.

But I admire their dedication to honoring all life.

Go ahead and joke about killing spiders, but they play an important role in the web of life.

We forget that at our peril. Any biologist will tell you it is true. It's not being hippy-dippy, it's the fact we are all interconnected and we don't live above other life, we exist because of it.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 05:09 PM

13. I thought FDA did medications/drugs

and EPA is more chemicals that get dumped into waterways, on the ground, or in the air. But I could be completely wrong. I did not read the entire article.

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Response to They_Live (Reply #13)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:41 PM

15. You are correct

I expect this has to do with use of animals for testing things like pesticides, etc.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #15)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:21 PM

19. Thanks.

I do appreciate it.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:03 PM

11. Terrific news!

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