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riversedge

(70,174 posts)
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:20 PM Sep 2019

Trump Shows Hurricane's Path With Apparent Doctored Bubble To Include Alabama

Source: TPM





U.S. President Donald Trump (R) references a map while talking to reporters following a briefing from officials about Hurricane Dorian in the Oval Office at the White House September 04, 2019 in Washington, DC. Trump... MORE
By Kate Riga
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September 4, 2019 2:53 pm


President Donald Trump on Wednesday displayed a map of Hurricane Dorian’s path that appeared to feature a bubble scribbled on to include Alabama, a state which Trump had earlier insisted, against direct proof, would be hit.

For reference, here’s a zoomed-in picture of Trump’s map:
JIM WATSON/AFP/Getty Images

“It was going to be hitting directly, and it would have affected a lot of other states,” Trump said in the Oval Office Wednesday, alongside Acting DHS Secretary Kevin McAleenan. “But that was the original chart. You see, it was going to hit not only Florida, but Georgia. It was going toward the Gulf. That was what was originally projected.”

And here’s Dorian’s official path from the National Hurricane Center website (though the storm moves, it never crosses Alabama’s border and there is no black bubble):
National Hurricane Center

Since Sunday morning, Trump repeatedly and emphatically insisted that Hurricane Dorian could hit Alabama, even as meteorologists from the local and federal level — aka his own weather service — refuted the claim..........................

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-hurricane-alabama-dorian-weather-service



Trump brings in others to lie for him.



For reference, here’s a zoomed-in picture of Trump’s map:









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Trump Shows Hurricane's Path With Apparent Doctored Bubble To Include Alabama (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2019 OP
What is even more surprising is that Trump knew where Alabama is. rurallib Sep 2019 #1
I suspect he got confused because he *didn't* quite know where Alabama is William Seger Sep 2019 #5
I wonder, does he even know it's a state! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2019 #23
Actually the earliest forecasts had it crossing the Fla. peninsula.... groundloop Sep 2019 #25
if he wanted to speculate, especially at that early stage... not_the_one Sep 2019 #46
He meant to say Atlanta, or maybe it was Alaska. Doodley Sep 2019 #30
No way there would be a Trump course in Alabama PJMcK Sep 2019 #32
He was wrong thegoose Sep 2019 #51
When does this shit show stop? Botany Sep 2019 #2
+ 1 million n/t MBS Sep 2019 #3
Yeah, I've been wondering the same. And the damn GOP just sits on their asses in congress, RKP5637 Sep 2019 #24
they dont just sit there they are working overtime to get him REELECTED Eliot Rosewater Sep 2019 #28
Ditto!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2019 #37
When I was a little kid our next door neighbor in a very middle class neighborhood was the county... Botany Sep 2019 #33
And, divided countries eventually fail! It's pathetic to watch this going on. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2019 #36
Putin is working that angle right now Botany Sep 2019 #40
I think you are right onto it!!!!! And tRump is just a dumb pawn! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2019 #45
Trump came to Lebanon, Ohio last October and praised.. Botany Sep 2019 #49
Now he'll nuke Alabama torius Sep 2019 #4
If by nuke, you mean... Cracklin Charlie Sep 2019 #6
He could do both torius Sep 2019 #12
Why is this shit tolerated MontanaMama Sep 2019 #7
Most of the media doesn't give a damn as long as their P&L statements look good. There was a time RKP5637 Sep 2019 #26
I would have thought this was The Onion. honest.abe Sep 2019 #8
How right you are! BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #44
The King is never wrong! Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #9
Today's real Dorian cone map jpak Sep 2019 #10
and Trumps cone....... riversedge Sep 2019 #15
Why lie about such things? IronLionZion Sep 2019 #11
umm. Why does Trump LIE?? riversedge Sep 2019 #18
Broken narcisissm circuit. He CAN'T allow himself to be wrong. He can't process the possiblility. AtheistCrusader Sep 2019 #27
And it's against federal law. riversedge Sep 2019 #13
Good God! Wuddles440 Sep 2019 #14
President Tufnel says his hurricane chart goes to 11 LastDemocratInSC Sep 2019 #16
We are at war with Alabama The Liberal Lion Sep 2019 #17
"It was headed for the Gulf but it took a right turn" left-of-center2012 Sep 2019 #19
Nicole Wallace on msnbc now reporting on this! riversedge Sep 2019 #20
Guest saying we do not know WHO altered that map. riversedge Sep 2019 #21
same quest saying it is obviously a sensitive issue for Trump riversedge Sep 2019 #22
Oh, please. Trump altered it. Dave Starsky Sep 2019 #41
I knew he was going to do something like this Politicub Sep 2019 #29
What was the term someone used (KellyAnn?) on their information rurallib Sep 2019 #31
Lindsey needs to get to the bottom of this Cartoonist Sep 2019 #34
You'd think someone at the WH could have photoshpped that, instead of amatuer night sharpy-ing. marble falls Sep 2019 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Sep 2019 #38
They love New Yorker Trump who calls them dumb southerners. keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #39
What has to happen for impeachment hearings to commence? Paladin Sep 2019 #42
Pathetic. n/t Coventina Sep 2019 #43
Every day, the Trump Gang explores new dimensions of crazy. Eugene Sep 2019 #47
Here's another picture he's using in a tweet. Wtf uppityperson Sep 2019 #48
That's a state map, issued days before his initial stupid statement. Dave Starsky Sep 2019 #53
Covered in scribbles uppityperson Sep 2019 #55
Watch him start using a sharpie on charts, graphs, surveys etc Flaleftist Sep 2019 #50
😆 underpants Sep 2019 #52
Remember laughing at Dan Quayle for "potatoe"? How it was a big deal then? Sugar Smack Sep 2019 #54
Hmmmm.....his drawing looks somewhat phallic Bayard Sep 2019 #56
This was the gauntlet to THE ONION right? Brainfodder Sep 2019 #57

groundloop

(11,517 posts)
25. Actually the earliest forecasts had it crossing the Fla. peninsula....
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:18 PM
Sep 2019

and POSSIBLY reforming in the Gulf of Mexico (I recall seeing this on some of the computer models). This, as I recall, was when Dorian was still a tropical storm and there was still a ton of uncertainty as to its' path.

HOWEVER, this had all changed by the time tRump issued his proclamation, he apparently never bothered to get recent information. Add to that the fact that someone had 'doctored' the forecast map to align with his proclamation - you really gotta' wonder.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
46. if he wanted to speculate, especially at that early stage...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 07:26 PM
Sep 2019

He should have warned Kansas and Oklahoma. He has rabid supporters in those states too, with which he could "connect". It could have hit them if it had continued in a straight line (which they never do).

And if they were comparing 10 to 15 different lines of projected paths from different global weather services, show the weather service cone map of possible impact that included Alabama.

No, he was on camera (which he LOVES to be), speaking off the cuff, made shit up to impress his knuckledraggers, and blew it in a bigly way.

And before he would admit he made a mistake, he doubled down, and probably forced an underling to draw the extension. He forced an underling to break the law. It is illegal to alter official weather prediction maps for the purpose of disinformation.

None of the weather services put out that prediction map.

We need to know WHO did it, and were they told to do it by turdface.

PJMcK

(22,022 posts)
32. No way there would be a Trump course in Alabama
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:31 PM
Sep 2019

There aren't enough of Trump's "kind of people" in Alabama to support one of his ridiculous golf clubs.

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
51. He was wrong
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:10 PM
Sep 2019

He said, "The hurricane is going to go straight through Florida, and then to Georgia and Alabama on the right."

On the right? So they're in the middle of the ocean? Worthless shit for brains.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
24. Yeah, I've been wondering the same. And the damn GOP just sits on their asses in congress,
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:15 PM
Sep 2019

some with stupid smiles on their faces. Others too cowardly to do anything ... and the vote is more important to them than the future of the US. What a totally F'ed up situation!

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
28. they dont just sit there they are working overtime to get him REELECTED
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:22 PM
Sep 2019

and I am sorry but that makes ALL of them my ENEMY

Botany

(70,476 posts)
33. When I was a little kid our next door neighbor in a very middle class neighborhood was the county...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:35 PM
Sep 2019

in N.W. PA and his brother was Ray Shafer, Governor of the state. You will never find a better
man ever. Ray played ball w/the kids, was very smart, a WW II vet, also he supported education,
civil rights, infrastructure, the environment, unions, and he was truly kind. Nixon had him look @
marijuana in the early 1970s so Ray got good people and looked at it and told Nixon that he should
just legalize it because we had a lot of more important problems. Nixon blew him off because pot
was a way to put blacks and hippies in jail. BTW Ray was republican.

This current group seems to be raised on Fox, Rush, and Newt and they don't give a shit about
America or the world. "They" have to know that Don is nuttier than squirrel turds but "they" get
their tax cuts, pack the courts, and get to taste sweet liberal tears.

Botany

(70,476 posts)
40. Putin is working that angle right now
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:16 PM
Sep 2019

In trying to divide America that is. The anti NFL player kneeling web sites were out of St. Petersburg, Russia. Stand for flag, stand for the troops, and stand for the anthem were all Russian operations and Trump even gave the web addresses to those sites too.

I wonder how much Fox news and Hannity are involved? Trump is an idiot no doubt but we are up against a massive operation that is so big that I can't get my head around it all. This is the biggest crime in America's history.

Sorry to

Botany

(70,476 posts)
49. Trump came to Lebanon, Ohio last October and praised..
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:33 PM
Sep 2019

.... good old General Robert E Lee and that was no mistake because that area is home to the HQs of the Klan in Ohio.

Trump is dumb but he too is working the racist angle in order to divide America and to make his boss, Vladimir happy.

torius

(1,652 posts)
4. Now he'll nuke Alabama
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:25 PM
Sep 2019

to blow up its hurricane.

(and his supporters there will cheer as they get vaporized)

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
6. If by nuke, you mean...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:29 PM
Sep 2019

Give them 50 quillion disaster dollars, I would agree with you.

Who resides in that tiny part of Alabama to whom he owes money or favors?

torius

(1,652 posts)
12. He could do both
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:51 PM
Sep 2019

Nuke the fake hurricane, then send disaster dollars to his cronies to fix the damage. Hmm, maybe he does have a plan after all.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
26. Most of the media doesn't give a damn as long as their P&L statements look good. There was a time
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:19 PM
Sep 2019

before the media became P&L centers that some really cared. Some still do today, but I think they get overshadowed. It's all about P&L these days for many and the hell with the people and the future of the US as long as they are doing OK.

IronLionZion

(45,403 posts)
11. Why lie about such things?
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:48 PM
Sep 2019

They're saying it's going up the Atlantic coast towards the Carolinas now, not Alabama.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
27. Broken narcisissm circuit. He CAN'T allow himself to be wrong. He can't process the possiblility.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:21 PM
Sep 2019

Even when he rhetorically says 'I might be mistaken' or something like that, it's bookended by shade and innuendo that shows he doesn't really think he's wrong. No. Matter. What.

riversedge

(70,174 posts)
13. And it's against federal law.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:53 PM
Sep 2019


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Wuddles440

(1,121 posts)
14. Good God!
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:53 PM
Sep 2019

Would someone PLEASE put a stop to this insanity! Pelosi needs to make nicey-nice and cut a deal with Putin so this imbecile can be removed from our White House. I can't take much more of this buffoonery.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
17. We are at war with Alabama
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:54 PM
Sep 2019

we have always been at war with Alabama
-Ministry of Truth


Seriously tho, even when the track showed Dorian heading into the Gulf it wasn't headed to Alabama.
I mean why lie about this. Just say mistakes were made and move on.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
19. "It was headed for the Gulf but it took a right turn"
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:01 PM
Sep 2019

No.
From the beginning they said it was headed UP the coast.

I remember because my brother lives on the Carolina coast.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
41. Oh, please. Trump altered it.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:22 PM
Sep 2019

Though he may very well have had some lackey with "the very best" art skills do it for him, because had no idea where Alabama was.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
29. I knew he was going to do something like this
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:22 PM
Sep 2019

I knew it - show something with Alabama being in the cone.

I just didn’t expect it to be in crayon.

rurallib

(62,401 posts)
31. What was the term someone used (KellyAnn?) on their information
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:28 PM
Sep 2019

Alternative facts?

Sounds like bullshit and lies to me.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
42. What has to happen for impeachment hearings to commence?
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:36 PM
Sep 2019

What abominable, illegal, unspeakable actions need to be committed, beyond the open-and-obvious travesties already recorded, for this dirty little man to be swept out of office? Remember back in the Good Old Days---a couple of years ago---when we had some standards of behavior, and a sense of outrage when those standards were breached? Are we now so tired and corrupted that trump can do what he damn well pleases, without fear of reprisal? You have to ask yourself: Is trump what we deserve?

Eugene

(61,843 posts)
47. Every day, the Trump Gang explores new dimensions of crazy.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:15 PM
Sep 2019

Anything, anything to avoid admitting a mistake.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
48. Here's another picture he's using in a tweet. Wtf
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:20 PM
Sep 2019

This was the originally projected path of the Hurricane in its early stages. As you can see, almost all models predicted it to go through Florida also hitting Georgia and Alabama. I accept the Fake News apologies!


Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
53. That's a state map, issued days before his initial stupid statement.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:17 PM
Sep 2019

It even says at the bottom of the goddamn thing that the NHC maps supersede it.

The NHC never showed the hurricane hitting Alabama. Especially on the day that dumbass issued his initial ignorant gaffe.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
50. Watch him start using a sharpie on charts, graphs, surveys etc
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:05 PM
Sep 2019

To make him appear more popular and the economy in better shape.

Bayard

(22,035 posts)
56. Hmmmm.....his drawing looks somewhat phallic
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 10:46 AM
Sep 2019

Call me paranoid, (if you're not paranoid, you're not paying attention), but I'm thinking if he sent disaster relief funds to Alabama, they could be quietly diverted to his wall building.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
57. This was the gauntlet to THE ONION right?
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 03:58 PM
Sep 2019


Please let their be lost footage of this dope doing the sharpie!

(on the map)

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