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PSPS

(13,579 posts)
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:38 AM Sep 2019

National Rifle Association is a 'domestic terrorist' organization, San Francisco rules

Source: Sacramento Bee

National Rifle Association is a ‘domestic terrorist’ organization, San Francisco rules

By Don Sweeney
September 04, 2019 06:32 AM

The San Francisco Board of Supervisors on Tuesday passed a resolution declaring the National Rifle Association a "domestic terrorist" organization, The San Francisco Chronicle reports.

"The NRA exists to spread disinformation, and knowingly puts guns into the hands of those who would harm and terrorize us," said Supervisor Catherine Stefani, who wrote the resolution, KTVU reported.

A response from the NRA calls the resolution a "ludicrous stunt" and "an effort to distract from the real problems facing San Francisco, such as rampant homelessness, drug abuse and skyrocketing petty crime, to name a few," according to the station.

Supervisors unanimously adopted the resolution, which also calls on the city and county to "take every reasonable step to limit" organizations that do business with San Francisco from also working with the NRA, The San Francisco Chronicle reported.


Read more: https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article234693467.html



Note how the NRA's response uses the same "strike back" template of a trump tweet
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National Rifle Association is a 'domestic terrorist' organization, San Francisco rules (Original Post) PSPS Sep 2019 OP
Amen to that! redstatebluegirl Sep 2019 #1
That doesn't go far enough. It applies to every scum bag shit eating Republican. olegramps Sep 2019 #20
I've long believed that every single Repuke in the country is a terrorist.... clementine613 Sep 2019 #33
BRAVO! LonePirate Sep 2019 #2
GREAT! Newest Reality Sep 2019 #3
Good for San Francisco! cp Sep 2019 #4
You know, Newest Reality Sep 2019 #6
Maybe it should be the National Run for Your Life Assassinators. Lonestarblue Sep 2019 #10
Yeah, Newest Reality Sep 2019 #12
Nasty Russian Assholes lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #35
Damn straight! ffr Sep 2019 #5
I thought bdamomma Sep 2019 #7
Not enough. We should encourage them to keep fighting each other lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #36
Kickin' with Faux pas Sep 2019 #8
It's a start! FakeNoose Sep 2019 #9
Yep. Also happens to be TRUE. calimary Sep 2019 #26
Right Calimary - certain words have a lot of power FakeNoose Sep 2019 #30
Excellent news oswaldactedalone Sep 2019 #11
I have disdain for the NRA just like any other good card carrying liberal should The Liberal Lion Sep 2019 #13
Don't feel alone DVRacer Sep 2019 #15
What specific civil liberties are being 'trampled on' due to this resolution? LanternWaste Sep 2019 #25
Poor Poor Widdle NRA Snowflakes - someone called them a name - that they deserve jpak Sep 2019 #27
Agreed. progressoid Sep 2019 #17
they try to arm EVERYONE Skittles Sep 2019 #32
We've gone from "A chicken in every pot" to CaptYossarian Sep 2019 #34
I thought Viagra would decrease the need for wars and weapons Skittles Sep 2019 #37
No. Trump got a Viagra stuck in his throat and he got a stiff neck. CaptYossarian Sep 2019 #38
As a gun owner.... phandancer917 Sep 2019 #14
typical response marieo1 Sep 2019 #16
One has to wonder Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #18
Are they laundering money for putin and trump to the republican party, duforsure Sep 2019 #19
Naaaaah....Putin would never back a domestic terrorist organization griloco Sep 2019 #21
Good. They are. They are indeed a terrorist organization...I wonder how many of NRA's... SWBTATTReg Sep 2019 #22
The NRA "spreads propaganda that misinforms and aims to deceive the public..." Towlie Sep 2019 #23
The NRA would have been designated a terrorist organization long ago.... Paladin Sep 2019 #24
Go San Francisco! BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #28
A Russian-financed terrorist organization. dalton99a Sep 2019 #29
Notice how the nra lists.. Maxheader Sep 2019 #31
hoping other cities will follow San Francisco's lead onetexan Sep 2019 #39

clementine613

(561 posts)
33. I've long believed that every single Repuke in the country is a terrorist....
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:39 PM
Sep 2019

... and should be prosecuted accordingly.

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
2. BRAVO!
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:42 AM
Sep 2019

It’s about time someone labeled them as terrorists for their wanton disregard to peace and life in this country.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
3. GREAT!
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:49 AM
Sep 2019

In light of the recent propaganda the NRA has been putting out there, this fantastic news.

The time has come to RE-FRAME the NRA and calling it out as a proponent of domestic terrorism is an excellent strategy and it can diffuse the "freedom & rights" rhetoric they utilize to cover that up. Anything that is supporting this trend of frequent mass shootings should be called out on the carpet and this is a good start.

NRA = A DOMESTIC TERRORISM PROMOTIONAL ORGANIZATION.

It won't really be hard to make that association and get it into focus on a larger scale.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
6. You know,
Reply to cp (Reply #4)
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:00 PM
Sep 2019

I was thinking about National RIFLE Association. It sounds rather old time Americana in a way.

Rifle? Rifle? Really? Yeah, sure! And atomic bombs are just really big hand grenades

Ah, American Automatic Weapon Association is more accurate and definitive these days. NAWA.

Get with the times, NRA.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
5. Damn straight!
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:59 AM
Sep 2019

The NRA worked with our country's enemies to undermine our democracy. They've ceased to be just a rifle association, instead have turned into a terrorist organization. Just look at their followers. Are there any who don't feel empowered to force their will upon others the way the Taliban does?

Add the Tea Party and the Oath Keepers on that list of terrorist organizations as well.

bdamomma

(63,799 posts)
7. I thought
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:01 PM
Sep 2019

these thugs in the NRA were eating their own, weren't they having some discord within the organization.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
26. Yep. Also happens to be TRUE.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:51 PM
Sep 2019

It’s blood money they’re getting from their donors. And it’s blood money they’re using to buying influence.

They’re buying that influence and those politicians so YOU and I can have the “freedom” to be shot to death someday.

That might be a good way to MESSAGE it.

Message it so it’s tied to the word “death.”
Directly tied to the word “death”.
Laminated to the word “death.”
Tattooed across the face with the word “death.”

The word “death” is a BIG-ASS heavyweight word with all kinds of toxic power to generate fear.

And FEAR is powerful.

It’s a Goliath of a motivator, and targeted audiences don’t even realize they’re being played like a deck of cards in Vegas. It gets under their skin. And therein lies the direct injection of toxins directly into the psychological bloodstream.

Remember the Idiot Sarah Palin’s oft-repeated “death panels.” That talking point took the point she was trying to make all the way home with many of her gullible and unsuspecting - and increasingly fearful voters.

It’s perception management.

It’s the way you twist, adjust, tweak, and up-end public opinion.

I’ve been watching this stuff for the a long time. It’s kind of a morbid fascination brought forward from years of watching my salesman father devise ad campaigns, slogans and sales pitches, commercials and print ads - how IT LOOKED - for whatever product he was selling. The way he chose his words sometimes - I came to find it objectively fascinating. I always wondered. Why did he say it that way? Why did he choose that word or phrase? What is it - that makes it catchy (and effective)? What’s the lure? What makes it compelling/beguiling/desirable/reassuring/reaffirming/even sexy?

I found myself studying those fine, fine, almost indiscernible details as I grew up, started working in the news biz, and joined a voice-over workshop (where you become intensely attuned to the WAY you say - ie: sell something). The conscious and deliberate use of strategic pausing and cadence and loudness and vocal inflection.

I found myself intrigued by what sold and didn’t sell. How if you were pleasingly clever and amusing, you rendered the target favorably predisposed toward you - and whatever-the-heck you’re trying to sell.

Statements like “let them hate, so long as they fear” - from some world-class political figure like kkkarl rove (although I’m not sure about that, but I first heard it during his bush/cheney heyday).

Stuff like this can be MIGHTY useful for message crafting. I think as many of us as possible should start getting good at this. We can’t just wait for our leaders and reps to do it. Anymore than business is now going ahead on its own to deal with gun violence because it’s useless to wait and hope for our leaders to do it. WE have to start leading on this. It isn’t top-down. It’s bottom-up. Which is what grassroots politics is all about.

Sometimes I see I DU as a laboratory where we can kick around ideas and test how they sound; a workout room where we “kick it around”
and build some muscle behind those ideas, and see if they can withstand strain; and a kitchen where we can cook this stuff up and then see how it looks and tastes, plus how most advantageously to serve it. I know there are LOTS of great minds here. I read ‘em every day.

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
30. Right Calimary - certain words have a lot of power
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:19 PM
Sep 2019

The RWNJs have been using those "trigger" words for a long time, and now we should do it too. At least when we need to beat them down. I wouldn't want to have our side doing this constantly, it's just too exhausting. But we need to understand their strategies and beat them at it when we can.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
13. I have disdain for the NRA just like any other good card carrying liberal should
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:27 PM
Sep 2019

but honestly I'm not sure this is the best route to take. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but we should be very careful in how we throw around that "domestic terrorism" charge. I'd like to see the NRA demolished, I'd like to see that guns are better regulated, but I think this is too far. That's just my opinion. I'm in NO WAY defending the NRA, but rather am thinking this only gives the right more ammo to attempt to strangle free speech and political dissent by lobbing " domestic terror" charges at organizations we hold dear. Let's just stop and take a breath for a moment.

DVRacer

(707 posts)
15. Don't feel alone
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:56 PM
Sep 2019

Watching civil liberties trampled on because I personally don’t agree with something is worrying. The blowback from actions like this are predictable and now expected. Planned Parenthood and Antifa will get labeled in some right wing areas soon. This will inevitably water down the meaning and create more division. I too denounce the lobbying effort the NRA preforms and disagree with them, but I can see tactics like this being used against groups I do agree with. Hell I can see Oklahoma or a town in it declaring the Democratic Party a terrorist organization and they will point to this childishly and say you started it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
25. What specific civil liberties are being 'trampled on' due to this resolution?
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:05 PM
Sep 2019

"Declaring the Democratic Party a terrorist organization and they will point to this childishly and say you started it...."

Trump already did that by telling elected representatives to "go back to the countries where you came from..."

jpak

(41,756 posts)
27. Poor Poor Widdle NRA Snowflakes - someone called them a name - that they deserve
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:58 PM
Sep 2019

Let Trump/NRA/Russia go after PP and antifa.

Let them!

Blowback is a Bee-och

Yup

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
32. they try to arm EVERYONE
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:56 PM
Sep 2019

and are against common sense gun legislation

how is that NOT domestic terrorism?

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
34. We've gone from "A chicken in every pot" to
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 09:29 AM
Sep 2019

"A gun in every playpen". The answer to everything seems to be more guns--in churches, in schools, in stores. This sucks.

Haven't these gun nuts heard of penis enlargement surgery if they need compensation for their "shortcomings"? Someone tell Wayne Lapierre.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
38. No. Trump got a Viagra stuck in his throat and he got a stiff neck.
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 04:46 PM
Sep 2019

Completely ruined the roof of his convertible.

phandancer917

(145 posts)
14. As a gun owner....
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:45 PM
Sep 2019

...I AGREE COMPLETELY!!!!!

The NRA is a right wing think tank that does nothing but help us remain the ONLY country with common mass shootings.

Fuck them.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
16. typical response
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:59 PM
Sep 2019

Typical response from the NRA - placing the blame elsewhere. They are a dangerous organization.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
19. Are they laundering money for putin and trump to the republican party,
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 01:44 PM
Sep 2019

and why trump and the KGBOP can promote any new gun laws in Congress ? They're compromised ?

SWBTATTReg

(22,065 posts)
22. Good. They are. They are indeed a terrorist organization...I wonder how many of NRA's...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 01:58 PM
Sep 2019

members live in San Francisco? Really nice to knock their town and not help residents in fighting crime (other than owning a gun pls.). The NRA just showed its stripes and is only protecting some Americans while not helping others, because they are obviously not American enough. More reason for people to dump the NRA and go to another org. that truly cares about Americans.

Towlie

(5,318 posts)
23. The NRA "spreads propaganda that misinforms and aims to deceive the public..."
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:02 PM
Sep 2019
Newsweek says:

District 2 Supervisor Catherine Stefani, whose district includes the Marina and Presidio, wrote the declaration stating that the NRA "spreads propaganda that misinforms and aims to deceive the public..."


Fox News omitted that quote, probably because they realized how much it sounded like a description of Fox News.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
24. The NRA would have been designated a terrorist organization long ago....
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:53 PM
Sep 2019

...if the membership wasn't so white.

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