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left-of-center2012

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Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:12 AM Sep 2019

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Having a bigger electric bill to own the libs ck4829 Sep 2019 #1
That was George W. Bush, NOT Obama no_hypocrisy Sep 2019 #2
Well, no. mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2019 #14
Back to court! SCVDem Sep 2019 #3
Man, these people are idiots moose65 Sep 2019 #13
Anything President Obama signed, he is going to do away with. redstatebluegirl Sep 2019 #4
That's all this is. Undo "the black guy" to please his racist base. PSPS Sep 2019 #6
It isn't just his base. He can't handle the fact that he is looks even more ignorant redstatebluegirl Sep 2019 #7
Exactly. B Stieg Sep 2019 #9
Republicans are pissing on our children and grandchildren Champp Sep 2019 #5
because having to pay more for your electric bill is an American thing! maga! Javaman Sep 2019 #8
We should go shoot bullets into the air because 'Merica! OrlandoDem2 Sep 2019 #11
and if the falling bullets accidentally hit people, we can claim that we were "standing our ground" Javaman Sep 2019 #12
So which evil corps offered up/influenced this one? Brainfodder Sep 2019 #10
The Damage These F**ks Are Doing... jayfish Sep 2019 #15
I have lots of great ideas on what do with repugs. rickyhall Sep 2019 #16
Screw 'em lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #21
Why... jcgoldie Sep 2019 #17
Bill Maher said it right Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2019 #22
The publication date is tomorrow. Here's a link to the Federal Register: mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2019 #18
TRUMP is coming for your Light BULBS!!! bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #19
Too late. The market already likes LEDs. They run cooler, last forever, and... lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #20
What else is new? BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #23
President Obama missed a golden opportunity to save us all... jmowreader Sep 2019 #24

ck4829

(35,063 posts)
1. Having a bigger electric bill to own the libs
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:18 AM
Sep 2019

no_hypocrisy

(46,083 posts)
2. That was George W. Bush, NOT Obama
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:19 AM
Sep 2019

who made the lightbulb law.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,412 posts)
14. Well, no.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 01:45 PM
Sep 2019

Presidents do not make laws. Laws have made their way through Congress.

Hit it, Schoolhouse Rock!:



Wait! That's not the one I wanted. I meant this one:



Anyway, it gets involved:

Phase-out of incandescent light bulbs
....

United States

See also: U.S. Lighting Energy Policy

In 2007, the state of California introduced legislation to phase out the use of incandescent bulbs by 2018. The bill established a minimum standard of twenty-five lumens per watt by 2013 and sixty lumens per watt by 2018. Legislation was also proposed in Connecticut.

New Jersey and Utah introduced rules to require the use of energy efficient lighting in government buildings. Utah has also undertaken a number of LED based lighting projects to regain efficiency.

In December 2007, the federal government enacted the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 (EISA), which set maximum power consumption requirements for all general-service light bulbs producing 310–2600 lumens of light. Light bulbs outside of this range are exempt from the restrictions. Also exempt are several classes of specialty lights including appliance lamps, rough service bulbs, 3-way, colored lamps, stage lighting, plant lights, candelabra lights under 60 watts, outdoor post lights less than 100 watts, nightlights and shatter resistant bulbs. The law was to effectively ban most incandescent light bulbs, starting in January 2012. By 2020, a second tier of restrictions would become effective, requiring all general-purpose bulbs to produce at least 45 lumens per watt, similar to a CFL.

In March 2008, the United States Environmental Protection Agency's Energy Star program established rules for labeling lamps that meet a set of standards for efficiency, starting time, life expectancy, color, and consistency of performance. The intent of the program is to reduce consumer concerns about efficient light bulbs due to variable quality of products. Those CFLs with a recent Energy Star certification start in less than one second and do not flicker. Energy Star Light Bulbs for Consumers is a resource for finding and comparing Energy Star qualified lamps.

The 2012 United States federal budget effectively delayed the implementation of the first stage of the EISA phase-out until October 2012 by defunding all enforcement activities. Funding for enforcement was also denied in some subsequent years, at least up to 2015.

In 2014, the Department of Energy issued regulations that would extend the efficiency standards of the 2007 EISA law to some specialty bulbs, effective January 2020. The new standards would apply to Edison, globe, and candelabra bulbs among others. In February 2019, the Department of Energy announced a proposal to withdraw this change, with a public hearing to be held on February 28, 2019.
 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
3. Back to court!
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:20 AM
Sep 2019

tRump does not realize that the tooling for obsolete products gets recycled. Like vacuum tubes which are pretty much small batch made in Russia, the price will be much higher.

What's next? Disposable plastic shopping bags coming back?

The orange ass will soon be dead, dead and rotting, while our children will be forced to live with his bullshit policies.

This is what a clear and present danger looks like!

moose65

(3,166 posts)
13. Man, these people are idiots
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:53 PM
Sep 2019

In NC, several counties and towns on the Outer Banks had banned the use of plastic shopping bags, due to so many of them ending up in the ocean. The Republican-controlled General Assembly stuck its nose in and repealed those bans, because reasons. It seems like there is no regulation benign enough for them - they want us to eat out of our styrofoam containers while drinking through plastic straws and carrying our food in plastic bags. I guess they'd be okay if our paint still had lead in it while we insulate our houses with asbestos flakes while smoking cigarettes in bed. All to "own the libtards." I am starting to think that is their ONLY motivation.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
4. Anything President Obama signed, he is going to do away with.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:20 AM
Sep 2019

His jealousy of that amazing man is palpable.

PSPS

(13,591 posts)
6. That's all this is. Undo "the black guy" to please his racist base.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:29 AM
Sep 2019

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
7. It isn't just his base. He can't handle the fact that he is looks even more ignorant
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:36 AM
Sep 2019

compared to this Ivy League educated Black man. I honestly think he is more racist than his base.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
9. Exactly.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:52 AM
Sep 2019

This is what Larry Wilmore called "The Unblackening" (of the White House)!

Champp

(2,114 posts)
5. Republicans are pissing on our children and grandchildren
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:20 AM
Sep 2019

by doing every stupid thing they can to make sure the future world is unliveable.

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
8. because having to pay more for your electric bill is an American thing! maga!
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:43 AM
Sep 2019

thank you orange asshole for screwing people yet again.

how does he screw them? his mouth breathing followers will think that they are screwing the left by using old incandescent bulbs, which would fly in the face of that "fake news" climate change.

it really takes some true mental gymnastics to unravel their bizarre thought process.

OrlandoDem2

(2,065 posts)
11. We should go shoot bullets into the air because 'Merica!
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:17 PM
Sep 2019

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
12. and if the falling bullets accidentally hit people, we can claim that we were "standing our ground"
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:34 PM
Sep 2019

against climate change.

or something like that.

I have to give my brain a rest. LOL

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
10. So which evil corps offered up/influenced this one?
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:57 AM
Sep 2019

Hand in the cookie jar angle shooting greedy assholes?

Just that ridiculous figure, whose arse was it pulled out of?

Like that many are going to rush out to use shitty light bulbs again?





jayfish

(10,039 posts)
15. The Damage These F**ks Are Doing...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 01:51 PM
Sep 2019

will not be undone in my lifetime.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
16. I have lots of great ideas on what do with repugs.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:12 PM
Sep 2019

But I don't want to meet the Secret Service, so keep my mouth shut.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. Screw 'em
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:43 PM
Sep 2019

into lightbulb sockets. But they are pretty dim bulbs.

How many Russiapublicans does it take to change a light bulb?

Only one, but he has to be a real idiot.

I'll be here all week, folks. Be sure to tip your waiter.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
17. Why...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:13 PM
Sep 2019

Just to be dicks!

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
22. Bill Maher said it right
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:00 PM
Sep 2019

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,412 posts)
18. The publication date is tomorrow. Here's a link to the Federal Register:
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:14 PM
Sep 2019
Federal Register | Public Inspection :: Tomorrow's Documents Today
....

REGULAR FILING TABLE OF CONTENTS
Regular Filing updated at 8:45 AM on Wednesday, September 4, 2019
....

Energy Department
See Federal Energy Regulatory Commission 4
See National Nuclear Security Administration 1

Rules

Energy Conservation Program:
Definition for General Service Lamps


Filed on: 09/04/2019 at 8:45 am
Scheduled Pub. Date: 09/05/2019
FR Document: 2019-18940
PDF 60 Pages (590 KB)
Permalink

Proposed Rules

Energy Conservation Program:
Energy Conservation Standards for General Service Incandescent Lamps


Filed on: 09/04/2019 at 8:45 am
Scheduled Pub. Date: 09/05/2019
FR Document: 2019-18941
PDF 108 Pages (757 KB)
Permalink

bucolic_frolic

(43,135 posts)
19. TRUMP is coming for your Light BULBS!!!
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:17 PM
Sep 2019

He wants you to pay more, to corporations, and be a dim wit and vote for TRUMP!

Amazing MAGAtzi's can't figure it out

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. Too late. The market already likes LEDs. They run cooler, last forever, and...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:41 PM
Sep 2019

they're cheaper in the long run.

 

BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
23. What else is new?
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 10:35 PM
Sep 2019

Everything Obama did has to be reversed to please the racist trumpanzees.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
24. President Obama missed a golden opportunity to save us all...
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 03:22 AM
Sep 2019

...by not promulgating a law making it completely illegal to wrap a dry cleaning bag around your head and taping the bottom of it to your neck.

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