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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 05:23 PM Sep 2019

Texas gunman was fired from job, called FBI before shooting

Source: Associated Press

ODESSA, Texas (AP) — The gunman in a spate of violence after a routine traffic stop in West Texas had just been fired from his job and called both police and the FBI before the shooting began, authorities said Monday.

Odessa Police Chief Michael Gerke said 36-year-old Seth Aaron Ator had been fired Saturday from Journey Oilfield Services. He said both Ator and the company called 911 after the firing but that Ator was gone by the time police showed up. FBI special agent Christopher Combs says Ator's statements on the phone were "rambling."

Authorities said Ator killed seven people and injured at least 22 others Saturday before officers killed him outside a busy movie theater in Odessa.

Combs said Ator "was on a long spiral down" before the shooting and that he went to work that day "in trouble."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-gunman-was-fired-from-job-called-fbi-before-shooting/ar-AAGGmv0?li=BBnb7Kz

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Texas gunman was fired from job, called FBI before shooting (Original Post) TomCADem Sep 2019 OP
"Enraged" PSPS Sep 2019 #1
they are hiding his social media from us. wonder why. EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #7
How do you know he simply didn't have social media? Sapient Donkey Sep 2019 #16
Would a Red Flag law have helped in this case? Beartracks Sep 2019 #8
The weird thing about Texans is ... mountain grammy Sep 2019 #2
A. failed background check. B. Where was the communication between LEO's? underpants Sep 2019 #3
If, As The Reichwing Says, GB_RN Sep 2019 #4
They should change things to stop it from happening again IronLionZion Sep 2019 #9
Universal background checks now. NickB79 Sep 2019 #20
Lets see he failed the background check...................and then there is Ammon Bundy............. turbinetree Sep 2019 #5
Ammon Bundy boasts of committing crimes IronLionZion Sep 2019 #10
I just don't understand how someone can come right out and have criminal intent turbinetree Sep 2019 #15
Conservative once were outraged by such things. Democrats_win Sep 2019 #18
The enablers will say this is a Mental Health issue and not a gun issue. BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #6
Hunting in a residential area is a crime in most places IronLionZion Sep 2019 #11
Our entire system is effed up beyond belief. warmfeet Sep 2019 #12
. Iggo Sep 2019 #13
Oh. And I thought it was video games. Aristus Sep 2019 #14
Not video games... Toorich Sep 2019 #17
Primary problem: guns. Secondary problem: economic system Democrats_win Sep 2019 #19

PSPS

(13,594 posts)
1. "Enraged"
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 05:32 PM
Sep 2019
"This did not happen because he was fired. He showed up to work enraged," said FBI special agent Christopher Combs of the suspected shooter.

Combs said the place where Ator lived was "a strange residence" and that the condition reflected "what his mental state was going into this." He didn't elaborate.

Online court records show Ator was arrested in 2001 for a misdemeanor offense that would not have prevented him from legally purchasing firearms in Texas, although authorities have not said where Ator got the "AR style" weapon he used.


"On a long spiral down," "showed up to work enraged," "condition reflected 'what his mental state was going into this.'" with a "AR style" weapon.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
16. How do you know he simply didn't have social media?
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 09:17 PM
Sep 2019

Do you have information that confirms your statement? If you search for me on social media based on my real name and identity, you won't find anything. Most people I know also share this trait. In fact, I'd say this is increasing because people are more conscious of their privacy these days.

I am not saying the social media hasn't been scrubbed, but there has to be more proof that it existed at some point. It not existing is not proof that it once existed and was deleted after the shootings.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
2. The weird thing about Texans is ...
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 05:40 PM
Sep 2019

And I can only talk about my right wing, evangelical Baptist in laws, trumpers to the bone, is the more they get what they want, the more pissed 😡 off they are..

underpants

(182,788 posts)
3. A. failed background check. B. Where was the communication between LEO's?
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 06:25 PM
Sep 2019

If the trooper who pulled him over knew that this guy was much more of a risk than a normal stop maybe this could have been handled differently. Hindsight, I know.


He also tweeted that Ator failed a previous gun background check and didn't go through one for the weapon he used in Odessa. He did not elaborate, and a spokesman referred questions to the Texas Department of Public Safety, which didn't immediately respond for comment.

GB_RN

(2,350 posts)
4. If, As The Reichwing Says,
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 06:49 PM
Sep 2019

That people are the problem, and NOT guns, then WHY in the hell would you give a GUN to the PROBLEM???

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
15. I just don't understand how someone can come right out and have criminal intent
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 09:16 PM
Sep 2019

and brag about it and admit that he is is going to break the law.......................................I just don't get it............................

Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
18. Conservative once were outraged by such things.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 12:47 PM
Sep 2019

Now it's us Liberals who are outraged that someone brags about committing crimes. Something has gone terribly wrong in America.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
6. The enablers will say this is a Mental Health issue and not a gun issue.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 06:53 PM
Sep 2019

He had no water and electricity and shot animals in his yard to eat. They will NOT say that there are tons of people who are crazier than that all over the world but they don't kill random people because they don't have access to military style guns.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
11. Hunting in a residential area is a crime in most places
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 07:36 PM
Sep 2019

and there are 2nd amendment nuts who worry liberals will report them as mentally ill and dangerous to have their guns taken away.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
12. Our entire system is effed up beyond belief.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 07:43 PM
Sep 2019

This is not happening because of mental health issues. Mental health issues are in evidence in every other country on earth, and at a rate consistent with our country.

It is also not due to video games. People play video games all over this planet, and at a rate consistent with this country.

It is happening because the effing repukelicans refuse to go against their masters, the nra, because much of their power depends on them and their funding.

Guns, yes guns, are the problem. Anyone telling you different is selling something.

Just say no! No to guns, no to repukelicans.

If we Democrats want things to change, vote the effing repubs out of office! They are a threat to your life and to my life. They threaten all life. It's past time to change this sheet.

Hope and Pray - eff that sheet!

Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
19. Primary problem: guns. Secondary problem: economic system
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 12:59 PM
Sep 2019

According to Wikipedia, this guy's house didn't even have utilities!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland%E2%80%93Odessa_shooting

Certainly semi-automatics should be banned as they once were, but our economic system is making people crazy. Even Trump's lame brain understands the role of poor mental conditions. Forty years of screwing the American people economically is taking its toll. The media is mentioning his job loss as a truck driver. You do realize that truck drivers are in high demand these days? Maybe he would be better off if he did have social media to vent on. But without utilities, he just had to sit on his roof and kill rabbits and frighten the neighbors.

Andrew Yang's proposal of $1000 a month is a necessity--after Bernie's or Elizabeth's Medicare for all proposals. People need economic help as their debts and lack of living wages drive them over the edge. Yeah, Yang's proposal is expensive, but look how we're throwing money away at this new intermediate missile arms race that Trump has started. Or look at how we're going to waste countless billions on the Space Force. It's time to spend the money on our people. We need help. They voted for Trump. Let's hope our Democrats deliver this time!

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