Two men sentenced in Great Falls for "stolen valor"
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Source: www.krtv.com
GREAT FALLS On Friday, two men in Great Falls were sentenced for crimes committed while pretending to be military veterans.
Judge Greg Pinski placed some unique requirements on their sentences.
Read more: https://www.krtv.com/news/military-matters/two-men-sentenced-in-great-falls-for-stolen-valor
RGinNJ
(1,020 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)Them claiming to be veterans to get those benefits would not have happened if the system was equitable in the first place.
iluvtennis
(19,858 posts)the time - same sentencing for all.
Grins
(7,217 posts)OK; calm down.
The only reason to close them is if we have UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE. Under UHC you would not need them at all*.
And with UHC we couldn't have to watch Jon Stewart battling, blaming, and shaming Republicans to get health care for police and firemen in NYC because of the after-effects from 9-11.
The "September 11th Victim Compensation Fund Act" is expected to cost 10.2B in funding, on top of the $5B already spent - for just the first 10-years, and no cap for the next 70-years! Seventy!
That's money that should go to UHC.
* Yes, I know; impractical. There are some things that will require specialized VA services. But in the big picture...!
Sgent
(5,857 posts)not big on the public shaming or the 3 years in prison for possession.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)our one sided police state is bad enough, adding public shame is a tRumpster move.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)What DOES piss me off is that there is a special, dedicated court for veterans which apparently hands down more lenient sentences or these two cons wouldn't have tried to take part in it.
Talk about inequality before the law - if you put on a uniform, you get kid glove treatment but if you didn't then you can lump in with the rest of the dregs.
Getting shot at in Fallujah shouldn't entitle you to have time chopped off your sentence.
LuvNewcastle
(16,845 posts)I'm not saying that people who go to war shouldn't receive benefits for signing up, but they shouldn't be spending less time in jail than others who commit the same crimes. It looks to me like military veterans are considered greater citizens than those who don't join, and I can't go along with that. Most people in the military sign up for the benefits that are promised to them; it isn't like they just join up out of a sense of duty for their country, at least not in most cases. I appreciate what war veterans do, but I think they're just as responsible for their actions as anyone else.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)bitterross
(4,066 posts)You are right. There shouldn't be a special court for people who volunteered to be in the military. No one made them sign up.
The GOP has turned service in the military into the equivalent of being a Marvel Superhero. It's not. They followed that up with continual war. The GOP also does its best to make the military a recruiting ground and conversion program for Christianity.
Very disgusting and angering.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,340 posts)Sentenced to hold signs at memorials which proclaim their shame? How about a scarlet letter? This is an "unusual" sentence that I bet gets struck down.
Maybe the sentences for the actual crimes will stand, but not any additions due to "stolen valor". Not when our president wants to award himself a Purple Heart and a Medal of Honor.
Submariner
(12,504 posts)To keep 'boots' in line, the military shaves every millimeter of hair off your head as a means of discipline training.
Don't let the long bearded guy keep it, shave it off and take his individuality away.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)It doesn't ring a bell.
AllaN01Bear
(18,204 posts)stolen valor there ? never heard of that term untill this post nor for the special vet court.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Been around a long time.
A lot of folks claiming to be Vietnam vets, just for the glory.
Story in the news not long ago of a man in his early twenties, panhandling while holding a sign that read:
Vietnam vet -- please help. (The war ended 44 years ago)
Obama signed the latest law against "stolen valor" in 2013.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)I get that they should be punished. They were. There is a federal law making Stolen Valor a crime. There does not appear to be a MT law. They were not charged under the federal law. The judge acted inappropriately with the requirements to have them wear signs at the Veterans Memorial. Public humiliation does not serve anyone and is simply an act of revenge - not justice.
Yonnie3
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