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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:35 PM Aug 2019

Trump's banks won't tell court if they have his tax returns

Source: CNN

New York (CNN) Lawyers for Deutsche Bank and Capital One repeatedly refused Friday to tell an appellate court in New York whether the banks are in possession of President Donald Trump's tax returns, citing "contractual obligations" not to disclose the information and drawing the ire of a panel of judges.

The three-judge panel was so frustrated by the lawyers' refusal to answer that at one point one of the judges suggested the appellate court might seek an order for the information.

After several minutes of argument on the subject, the panel directed the lawyers to file letters under seal within 48 hours saying whether the banks have Trump's tax returns. But while the banks' lawyers indicated they would respond in writing, it wasn't clear that they agreed to provide that information.

The dispute came during oral arguments in Trump's appeal of a lower court ruling that rejected Trump's attempt to block Democratic lawmakers from accessing his financial records through subpoenas of those banks.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/politics/trump-tax-return-hearing/index.html

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Trump's banks won't tell court if they have his tax returns (Original Post) crazytown Aug 2019 OP
His paranoia is astounding. I wonder if our Republican friends smell the stink yet? Firestorm49 Aug 2019 #1
Jail the lawyers, their CEO's and Fine them for contempt of court until they state it. TeamPooka Aug 2019 #2
Exactly. It is outrageous that they wouldn't answer a judge's question. WTF SunSeeker Aug 2019 #5
If a judge asks you something they don't need a court order for an answer. They are the court order TeamPooka Aug 2019 #6
The Appeals Court did not order the bank to confirm they had them or to produce them. Their oral 24601 Aug 2019 #18
So...that's a "yes" then. lagomorph777 Aug 2019 #3
+ 1000 n/t MBS Aug 2019 #15
I'm watching bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #4
This will not end well. TomSlick Aug 2019 #7
I am hoping it will not end well for trumpy!! riversedge Aug 2019 #14
Agreed. nt/ MBS Aug 2019 #16
What's the bet that Trump's IRS Tax Returns do not match the ones given to the banks? TheBlackAdder Aug 2019 #8
100% sure they don't! He lies on every single matter, especially when money is involved. machoneman Aug 2019 #19
Wasn't Deutsche Bank listed in the Panama Papers for money laundering...hhmmmm. nt Hotler Aug 2019 #9
Where is shit stain getting his money for lawyers'? The guy has to be leveraged up to.. Hotler Aug 2019 #10
I just don't understand what's going on... choie Aug 2019 #11
They're all part of the same crime organization. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2019 #13
My daily question, too. n/t MBS Aug 2019 #17
Lock them out, Corgigal Aug 2019 #12
Why are Democratic lawmakers trying to get his tax records from private banks when hughee99 Aug 2019 #20

Firestorm49

(4,029 posts)
1. His paranoia is astounding. I wonder if our Republican friends smell the stink yet?
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:39 PM
Aug 2019

I guess we're the only ones who think that he may be trying to hide something. Hmmmmm!

TeamPooka

(24,205 posts)
6. If a judge asks you something they don't need a court order for an answer. They are the court order
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 05:02 PM
Aug 2019

asking.

24601

(3,955 posts)
18. The Appeals Court did not order the bank to confirm they had them or to produce them. Their oral
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 11:06 AM
Aug 2019

argument was that confirming whether they had the returns would violate their fiduciary responsibility to their client. That's one of the points being adjudicated. It was discussed that the court might ask for the answer under seal.

Several exchanges during the argument focused the counsel for the House of Representatives acknowledging that once the returns were provided to congressional committees, there was no expectation they would not be released publicly. My sense of the oral argument was that the court was skeptical that the real purpose was to enact legislation, or that the returns were even needed to legislate. If the judges infer that legislating is a subterfuge and that the real purpose is to release politically-damaging information before the 2020 election, they likely will not rule in favor of the House.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
4. I'm watching
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:42 PM
Aug 2019

the source of those DeutscheBank funds. Could be historical, could be oligarchs, or something else.

machoneman

(3,997 posts)
19. 100% sure they don't! He lies on every single matter, especially when money is involved.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 11:38 AM
Aug 2019

Liar in Chief!

Hotler

(11,394 posts)
10. Where is shit stain getting his money for lawyers'? The guy has to be leveraged up to..
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 08:41 PM
Aug 2019

the eyeballs. As people have noted on DU before, he's one big ponzi scheme.

choie

(4,107 posts)
11. I just don't understand what's going on...
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 09:25 PM
Aug 2019

is every goddamn person or entity cowed by this fucking piece of shit? How the hell does he get away with intimidating people into flouting the law?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
20. Why are Democratic lawmakers trying to get his tax records from private banks when
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 08:55 PM
Aug 2019

There’s a government agency that definitely has his tax records?

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