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Fri Aug 23, 2019, 12:36 PM

Trump Orders American Companies to 'Start Looking for an Alternative to China'

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — Hours after Beijing said it would increase tariffs on American goods in response to President Trump’s latest round of Chinese levies, the president ordered companies in the United States to stop doing business with China and warned of additional retaliation.

In a series of angry Twitter posts, Mr. Trump said “Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing our companies HOME and making your products in the USA.”

The president also said he was ordering the United States Postal Service and private American companies like FedEx, Amazon and UPS to search packages from China for the opioid Fentanyl and refuse delivery.

“We don’t need China and, frankly, would be far better off without them,” Mr. Trump said on Twitter. “The vast amounts of money made and stolen by China from the United States, year after year, for decades, will and must STOP.”

It was not yet clear on Friday how Mr. Trump planned to carry out his demands, including ordering companies to begin seeking alternatives to China. Mr. Trump has routinely urged American companies to stop doing business in China and has viewed his tariffs as a way to prod them to move production. While some companies have begun looking for other places to locate their supply chains, including Vietnam, many businesses — particularly smaller ones — say such a move is costly, time-consuming and could put them out of business.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/23/business/china-tariffs-trump.html

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Reply Trump Orders American Companies to 'Start Looking for an Alternative to China' (Original post)
crazytown Aug 23 OP
Eugene Aug 23 #1
BlueIdaho Aug 23 #24
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 26 #51
Voltaire2 Aug 24 #42
The Liberal Lion Aug 23 #2
Bernardo de La Paz Aug 23 #21
Nay Aug 23 #3
Duppers Aug 23 #10
IronLionZion Aug 23 #17
sinkingfeeling Aug 23 #23
Rebl2 Aug 23 #32
Wellstone ruled Aug 23 #4
Maxheader Aug 23 #5
Newest Reality Aug 23 #6
crazytown Aug 23 #7
jmowreader Aug 23 #13
SCVDem Aug 23 #8
KY_EnviroGuy Aug 24 #38
SCVDem Aug 24 #40
KY_EnviroGuy Aug 24 #41
Voltaire2 Aug 24 #43
Turbineguy Aug 23 #9
IcyPeas Aug 23 #11
TheRealNorth Aug 23 #28
duforsure Aug 23 #12
yaesu Aug 23 #14
maxsolomon Aug 23 #18
yaesu Aug 23 #19
TheRealNorth Aug 23 #36
Voltaire2 Aug 24 #44
jmowreader Aug 23 #15
duforsure Aug 23 #16
onetexan Aug 23 #20
sinkingfeeling Aug 23 #22
BadGimp Aug 23 #25
WhoWoodaKnew Aug 23 #26
crazytown Aug 23 #35
Floyd R. Turbo Aug 23 #27
icymist Aug 23 #29
patphil Aug 23 #30
Voltaire2 Aug 24 #45
patphil Aug 24 #46
patphil Aug 26 #52
Voltaire2 Aug 26 #53
patphil Aug 26 #54
Voltaire2 Aug 27 #55
ck4829 Aug 26 #47
Bengus81 Aug 23 #31
Rebl2 Aug 23 #33
paleotn Aug 23 #34
Judi Lynn Aug 23 #37
ck4829 Aug 26 #50
KY_EnviroGuy Aug 24 #39
ck4829 Aug 26 #49
ck4829 Aug 26 #48

Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 12:39 PM

1. Does it need to be pointed out that a POTUS does not have the powers to do this,

especially without Congress?

P.S. What happens if the companies look at the alternatives and determine they are not feasible?

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Response to Eugene (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 03:05 PM

24. "Hereby Order"

Is not a Presidential power. He is a fucking idiot and the world is about to see just how big a fool he really is.

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #24)

Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:43 AM

51. He truly thinks he is the King.

Saying he shouldn't be limited to two terms, telling free-market companies how to run their businesses (as if he's a sterling example), telling other countries what to do to please him, hanging out with other autocrats and disparaging elected officials -- he's drunk with power. And no one will stand up to him. The courts have, on occasion, but he's been quickly filling them with his unqualified but loyal lackeys.

And the SCOTUS? I just home RBG has a food-tester on staff.


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Response to Eugene (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 24, 2019, 11:09 AM

42. Sadly he probably does have the power to do this.

Over the decades since WWII congress has enacted a series of 'national emergency' laws that have ceded a stunning amount of power to the executive branch to rule by decree. See the border wall bullshit.

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 12:41 PM

2. The tajmahalification of America continues unabated

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Response to The Liberal Lion (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:29 PM

21. Please don't drag Taj Mahal into it. tRump stole the name. The real Taj is a thing of beauty.


Call it the "casinofication" if you like. tRump bankrupted casinos. Casinos are all showy and facade and no real substance, like tRump's America which is easily distracted by a facade and fusilades of tweets.

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 12:45 PM

3. Nowhere in this NY Times article does it note that Trump himself has all his branded clothing

made in China and has not yet moved HIS manufacturing to the US!!

Why has that fact not been plastered all over this article??

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Response to Nay (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:09 PM

10. NYTimes!

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Response to Nay (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:46 PM

17. And reporters should ask him about it. I'm sure he has a great excuse

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Response to Nay (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:53 PM

23. Where would he get MAGA hats made?

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Response to Nay (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 08:34 PM

32. Was just thinking that

Think Ivanka does as well. Guess it’s okay for them.

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 12:46 PM

4. Interesting is it not.

As far as Corporate America is concerned,well,there is nobody around to answer that question in the month of August. Everyone is on Vacation until after Labor Day.

Hunch says,lots of Vacations are ending prematurely today. The Racist Accused Rapist just shot himself in the foot again. Watch for a massive round of layoffs two weeks from today.

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 12:47 PM

5. Stumpy won't embargo usofa ..



corps from dealing with china?

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 12:58 PM

6. Ya vol mein fuhrer!

Or should it be: Po tvoyemu prikazu moy korol'? Or: בפקודתך מלךי

What kind of response is he expecting and does it have to be in English?

The fiat! The decree! All Hail!

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #6)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:00 PM

7. In English?

We are but your obedient servants Your Majesty.

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #6)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:23 PM

13. It's really "ja wohl"

And as for the Russian, "eb tvoyu mats, bl'yad" would be more appropriate for Trump.

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:08 PM

8. It's time for the Fortune 100

To float that they are looking to relocate ALL of their manufacturing to a Democratic country.

Git while the gittins' good!

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 24, 2019, 12:32 AM

38. I can just envision millions of Americans walking around in rags....

because we can't afford clothing made in the UK or Germany......

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #38)

Sat Aug 24, 2019, 12:46 AM

40. Mission Accomplished!

I'm concerned about the Amazon fires.

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #40)

Sat Aug 24, 2019, 12:53 AM

41. Feels good to see the EU stepping in and showing leadership...

Germany, France, Ireland threaten South American trade deal over Amazon wildfires
Brazil is facing global pressure to contain an 80% increase in wildfires in the world's largest rain forest. Berlin has called for guarantees for the Amazon to be included in the upcoming EU-South America trade deal.

Link: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-france-ireland-threaten-south-american-trade-deal-over-amazon-wildfires/a-50142518

(snip)
Germany on Friday warned the European Union's trade deal with the South American trade bloc Mercosur could be amended in an attempt to pressure Brazil to better protect the Amazon rain forest.

German Environment Minister Svenja Schulze made the comments in response to concerns about huge wildfires that are incinerating Brazilian sections of the tropical forest at a record rate as a result of illegal deforestation.

Schulze said advancing the unfinalized trade deal with Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay "would be irresponsible" unless it included clear guarantees of protection for the Amazon.

KY............

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 24, 2019, 11:11 AM

43. just like the german industrialists stood up to hitler and staved off disaster.

They are happily stashing away their low tax billions and living the high life. Not gonna change nothing.

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:08 PM

9. Great idea! Advice from trump!

Well, for companies in search of advice on how to go bankrupt.

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:14 PM

11. "Our great American companies are hereby ordered ....

ummmm, and what if they don't follow your orders.

this idiot is causing havoc with his retaliatory tactics when he doesn't get his way.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #11)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 04:10 PM

28. Can you imagine the red-faced hyperventillating

If Obama gave such an order to US companies?

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:16 PM

12. Big business

Will now completely turn on him, and give to others running after this. He's burning his bridges with everyone, and every day the GOP allows this to continue, the more GOP seats in Congress will be lost.

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:23 PM

14. Prediction on a progressive talk show this morning, Pence & nikki haley are working behind the scene

to replace tRump in 2020.

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Response to yaesu (Reply #14)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:16 PM

18. Fantasy

Haley is smart enough to stay above the fray and position herself for 2024.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #18)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:25 PM

19. but, we should spread this high & low, it will drive tRump even nuttier. nt

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Response to yaesu (Reply #14)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 10:19 PM

36. They would have to get Faux News on board

To tell the sheep how to vote

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Response to yaesu (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 24, 2019, 11:12 AM

44. fantasy games are fun!

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:30 PM

15. Let's see if I have this right

Trump wants FedEx, UPS and the Postal Service to open every package from China to search it for fentanyl.

Doesn't ANYONE in the fucking Republican party understand how much this man hates America?

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:32 PM

16. He's confused again

Big business is looking for an alternative to him. He's trying to cause a depression for Putin probably.

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:26 PM

20. ORDERS??? LOL

This lunatic thinks he's king.

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:52 PM

22. Is he starting with all of Ivanka's Chinese made junk?

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 03:12 PM

25. Omfg

Does he even realize what he has done?

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 03:13 PM

26. I wonder how many millions of dollars Trump's friends have made by him tipping them off before he...

Makes crazy tweets.

Surely we can track who is shorting and making a killing.

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Response to WhoWoodaKnew (Reply #26)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 09:37 PM

35. First stop, Fox & Friends

They know what 1Chosen will tweet before he does.

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 03:16 PM

27. 🦇💩🤪

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 04:15 PM

29. "Orders"?!

You know I have friends in Europe saying "America is lost".

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 04:38 PM

30. Now which country do you think Trump intends to have all these American companies

set up shop in?

Could it be.....Russia?

Or, maybe he wants Greenland to use as a manufacturing base without any messy environmental rules.

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Response to patphil (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 24, 2019, 11:13 AM

45. Russia can't begin to compete with China on manufacturing.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #45)

Sat Aug 24, 2019, 06:51 PM

46. I agree.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #45)

Mon Aug 26, 2019, 01:23 PM

52. True, but we're talking about Trump here. The concepts of truth and logic are suspended.

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Response to patphil (Reply #52)

Mon Aug 26, 2019, 06:30 PM

53. Sure but he can't will an educated deficated

workforce to magically appear in Russia.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #53)

Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:01 PM

54. Ah, deficated means expelled from the anus.

Of course that may be exactly what you mean.
But...
if you meant an educated, dedicated workforce then I would say that Trump wouldn't want an educated workforce, only one dedicated to Trump.
In any event, logic and reason never carried any weight in Trump's "thought processes".
He only knows loyalty, and his loyalty is to Putin.
Thus I suggested Russia.
Trump wouldn't have a clue about the readiness of the Russian workforce, and wouldn't care either.
All he would see is a chance to appease his master.

Patrick Phillips

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Response to patphil (Reply #54)

Tue Aug 27, 2019, 03:45 PM

55. Ah autocorrect sucks ass.

In this case literally.

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Response to patphil (Reply #30)

Mon Aug 26, 2019, 02:48 AM

47. Maybe

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 06:45 PM

31. ROFLOL!!! Guess Walmart is hearby ORDERED to CLOSE!

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Response to Bengus81 (Reply #31)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 08:35 PM

33. Yeah!

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 08:39 PM

34. ......



That's just......crazy!!!

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 10:27 PM

37. Guardian: 'I hereby order':Trump mocked for highly formal, meaningless decree


Trump’s demand that US companies boycott China, which he doesn’t have the power to enforce, inspired responses on Twitter

Luke O'Neil
@lukeoneil47
Fri 23 Aug 2019 14.39 EDT

Leaning further into a burgeoning economic war with China of his own design, Donald Trump on Friday levied a series of bizarre demands of American companies who do business in the country.

They included an order for American firms to cease production in China.

“Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA.”

The proclamation, which the president does not have the power to enforce, might have been expected to unleash a wave of panic and terror among America’s mostly capitalist citizenry – such state-mandated orders are, after all, the stuff of planned-economy communist countries.

More:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/aug/23/trump-hereby-order-response-president-mocked-decree

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #37)

Mon Aug 26, 2019, 02:49 AM

50. Haha

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Sat Aug 24, 2019, 12:44 AM

39. Twitter responds appropriately...

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #39)

Mon Aug 26, 2019, 02:48 AM

49. +1

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Mon Aug 26, 2019, 02:48 AM

48. Kick

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