Activists interrupt Pelosi award ceremony in San Francisco, demand she take action to impeach Trump

[alp227]

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

Activists interrupted a ceremony in a San Francisco hotel where House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was being honored Wednesday evening and demanded that she spearhead impeachment proceedings to remove President Trump from the White House.

They stood on dining chairs, unfurled black tapestries with the phrase, “We can’t wait” and chanted “Which side are you on, Pelosi? Impeach!” inside the grand ballroom of the InterContinental San Francisco hotel where the San Francisco Democratic Party was honoring Pelosi with a lifetime achievement award.

“Impeach Trump now!” activists, who had initially been quietly seated in the audience, shouted. One woman, Thais Marques, screamed into the packed room that her “people are being killed by white supremacists” across the country. She demanded action from Pelosi. Another activist said, “We are your constituents!”

Pelosi supporters tried to drown out the activists by chanting, “Let her speak” and waving signs of Pelosi’s face superimposed onto Rosie the Riveter’s likeness. Others opted to say “hush” in deep, hoarse voices, while others screamed, “Sit down!”

Read more: https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Activists-interrupt-Pelosi-award-ceremony-in-San-14369487.php

[LonePirate]

1. Bravo to those activists!

[brooklynite]

29. Explain how this had an impact on Pelosi's decision making

[Maxheader]

31. The will of the people pelosi...

The will of the people..Thats what you get paid for....
That is your responsibility...

[lapucelle]

38. How many of "the people" were at the protest?

Who and what does "progressive cell phone company" Credo Mobile represent?

What did Credo mobile phone activists do in 2016 to stop Trump by helping to elect the Democratic candidate in the general election?

Their super pac raised millions of dollars in 2012 and 2014. Why did they raise and spend so little money in 2016?

Why were activists so inactive during the 2016 general election campaign?



Why hat tip a handful of folks who did little in 2016, but who are now making entitled and counterproductive demands in a way that amplifies anti-Pelosi talking points that chiefly serve Trump and his allies? These people don't speak for me.

https://www.credomobile.com/shop/phones.html

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00507517

[Maxheader]

43. I don't really give 2 cents

about the bloodline, of those voicing empeachment..or their history of "involvement"...when where and how...Just get it done...

[lapucelle]

45. I like to know what a group represents and whose interests they serve

before I jump on a bandwagon.

Why show up at an awards dinner to troll a Democratic Speaker of the House?

Where were they in 2016 when they could have tried to help prevent the damage before it happened?

I feel sorry for them. Imagine being so cluelessly privileged that you think you're entitled to make demands about the result three years after sitting out a presidential election.

[dweller]

2. good

the time is ripe

✌🏼

[DURHAM D]

4. This makes so much sense given that Pelosi

controls the Senate.

[Lulu KC]

20. +1

[Lulu KC]

21. BUT

An inquiry wouldn't hurt, or would it? (Now I will let my brain run its course through THAT circular roller coaster thought process one more time.)

I thought Nadler said we are already in the impeachment inquiry phase.

TRUE CONFESSIONS: I am confused. Every damn day since January of 2017.

More coffee needed.

[Bayard]

35. We are

Nadler is low key, but its moving. With Pelosi's blessing.

People want a star-spangled big announcement, and this has mostly flown under the radar.

[Phoenix61]

51. Ditto. nt

[CincyDem]

5. Only history will tell if she's being brilliantly patient and deliberate or naively reticent to act.

I know exactly what I would do in her shoes.

I also know that my certainty comes from knowing what I think doesn't matter.

It's what she thinks based on her experience and ability to see the whole board.

In the end, she may do what I think she should or she may not...either way, I have no doubt that she'll be making that decision with the best intentions for the country's well being.

I don't envy her and I hope for our sakes she gets it right.

[Lulu KC]

22. Yup

That's where the circular roller coaster thought process always ends for me, too. Trust Nancy. Nancy smart.

[Dave Starsky]

55. That's if history is still around in the next 15 months.

Maybe a robot archaeologist 300 years from now can sort through the radioactive rubble, pull out some ancient scorched hard drives, recover the data, and determine why she was being so patient with the last president of the United States.

[onenote]

6. and do these activists know whether there are enough votes to impeach?

Pelosi does.

[still_one]

7. I believe this is Marques profile

https://www.netrootsnation.org/profile/thaismar27gmail-com/

[lapucelle]

12. Credo Mobile's super pac doesn't seem to have done much to stop Trump in 2016.

I wonder why they raised and spent so little that year.





https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00507517&cycle=2018

[Lulu KC]

23. Thanks!

Wow. Oh my. There's more to that story.

[customerserviceguy]

8. This makes me wonder

what "activists" have in store for our convention next year.

[still_one]

9. To try and get trump re-elected

[customerserviceguy]

10. I saw it happen in 1968

Even with George Wallace bleeding off the worst of the racists, and the electoral votes of five whole states, Nixon managed to pull off a win based on his "law and order" campaign.

[still_one]

11. The Chicago Convention

[lapucelle]

13. One of Credo Action's campaign mgrs wants the DNC to sanction a climate debate.

Town halls are not the answer, DNC must sanction an official climate debate

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/energy-environment/456295-town-halls-are-not-the-answer-dnc-must-sanction-an

[JI7]

27. did they endorse and do anything to support Jay Inslee ?

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[lapucelle]

28. The group says it doesn't endorse candidates. N/T

[JI7]

30. well, that's convenient .

[Eliot Rosewater]

52. Many groups being formed or infiltrated now by russian kgb agents and gop undercover

folks.

I am pretty sure kgb will be switching registrations of millions and will shut down our power grid on election day so they may not even need the fake activists.

I just hope our REACTION is equal to what they are doing, finally.

[PSPS]

14. These "activists" sure are stupid

With Moscow Mitch, impeachment means certain acquittal in what is now the duma.

[larwdem]

15. I agree

with the activists... oh I mean wtf and i'm pissed

[underthematrix]

16. This is what alleged BLM members did to HRC during the 2016

cycle and of course Russia used it for their disinformation campaign.

I used alleged because we have no way of knowing if they were actually BLM members. I'm sure folks can see where I'm going with this.

[still_one]

26. Please educate me how impeaching Trump would get rid or him when we do not have the majority in the

Senate?

[SunSeeker]

36. People want impeachment whether or not it results in removal.

Why is that so hard to understand? They want Pelosi to TRY. These Democratic activists are not stupid. They know we don't have the votes in the Senate, yet. They want Trump's crimes exposed via a robust, televised impeachment inquiry, not the silent one we appear to be pursuing.

They want Trump to go down in history as the 4th president to be impeached by the House. No president has ever been removed by the Senate. The lack of votes in the Senate never stopped prior impeachment proceedings. It shouldn't now. Impeachment in the House damages a president's ability to pursue his agenda. And it will fire up our base. Why wouldn't we want to hamper Trump from hurting the country, while firing up our base to vote in 2020? Seems like a win-win.

Besides, impeachment is the right thing to do. Trump is evil. We should not countenance evil, and that is what it looks like we're doing by not having formal televised impeachment investigation hearings.

[still_one]

40. True,, except the poster doesn't appear to be arguing it from that point of view, but saying if

Pelosi doesn’t impeach, ignoring if the votes are there, then she will be responsible for Trump not being removed from office, ignoring if the Senate has the votes to candidates convict, and also ignoring that I even if that was to occur, Pence would become President

A lot of ignoring going on

Probably a good cathartic experience

[SunSeeker]

42. I don't think you can speak for the poster. nt

[Demsrule86]

46. Do 'people ' understand that we will almost certainly lose the house if we impeach for no real

gain. Trump will not be convicted in the Senate and removed. And worst case this gives him another four years...not a good idea...we are year away from an election beat the crap out of him...humiliate him...but there is no gain in impeachment ...it is a landmine. I would also say with a majority of moderates in the house,the votes are not there.

[SunSeeker]

48. How can you say Impeaching the most corrupt president in history has "no real gain"?

It puts Democrats and 1 independent in the House on the record as upholding the law, and puts Trump in the history books as only the 4th president ever impeached by the House.

The votes would immediately be there in the House if Pelosi came out in favor of impeachment.

Not impeaching is the landmine. If we don't impeach Trump, we lose all moral authority. He will argue that if what he he was so wrong, Democrats would have impeached him. He will use the House Dems failure to impeach as an admission that everything he did was legal. That would be ruinous for Dems and would depress Dem turnout.

[Eliot Rosewater]

53. If you are right THEN all Dems would have to go on record to impeach, would that

risk their seats?

That is the concern.


NOW, having said that, there was a researcher on MSNBC the other day, woman, who is releasing a big study that shows the 2018 WAVE was NOT due to cons voting for dems but non voters voting for the first time for dems.

I think Nancy is going to look at this data and I am hoping when she does she will see that whether the TRAITORS in the GOP in the Senate do the patriotic thing or not, the act of impeaching this vile filthy traitor, will bring people out in droves to vote for our team.

[SunSeeker]

56. Yep, I think Orange County, CA is an example of Rachel Bitecofer's analysis.

Orange County, CA, where I live, went from red to blue in 2018. It's not because we got Republicans to vote Dem, it's because we got Dems out to vote with great progressive House cantidates like Harley Rouda and Katie Porter, both of whom have since come out for impeachment.

Here's more on "the other Rachel":
https://www.salon.com/2019/08/17/this-political-scientist-completely-nailed-the-2018-blue-wave-heres-her-2020-forecast/

[lapucelle]

47. I don't like the group's trolling tactics. N/T

[deurbano]

18. My daughter was at the dinner. She only saw two protestors actually at the dinner, but more

were outside. I think the minimum ticket was $250, so I'm sure that limited the indoor protesting! My daughter's friend knew one of the outdoor protestors, and that protestor said she wasn't sure exactly why she was there, and didn't know what the event was, but she'd gotten an alert so turned out.

[oldsoftie]

34. Which is common for a LOT of "protestors" at many different events.

"i was told to be here"

[Thekaspervote]

19. Nadler has made it clear that there is an "informal" impeachment hearing going on in the judiciary

Cmt. And, the a formal hearing is coming

https://politicsnow.news/informal-impeachment-proceedings-have-begun-now-hurry-up/

[Lulu KC]

24. THANK YOU!

I knew I didn't dream that. Are the protesters unaware or is it just being handled so quietly that it's in a stealth position? (rhetorical question--I think it's both, personally.)

[3Hotdogs]

25. They don't get it. Nancy's playing 5 dimension Tiddly-winks while McTurtle in the Senate is playing

Go Fish.

Don't worry. Nancy's got this.

[KPN]

37. Don't you mean while Rome is burning?

[Paladin]

39. And trump is playing Russian Roulette, with the gun pointed at this nation.

I welcome some righteous anger being displayed at a political gathering, by somebody other than trump's moronic goons. If we can't show genuine outrage at how trump is fucking our country over, on a daily, hourly, minute-by-minute basis, perhaps we deserve to be in the downward spiral into which he's put us. Pay attention, Madame Speaker.

[Javaman]

41. +1 nt

[Eliot Rosewater]

54. Plus Nancy is about to get some new data that shows, I hope, that the wave of 18 was not

cons voting for dems, but non voters showing up voting for dems.

And the theory being if we impeach, they and more will come out again.

I want to learn more about the study.

[WhoWoodaKnew]

32. If Nancy does anything she's got it all timed out to be most effective during the upcoming election

[oldsoftie]

33. Trump says "Thanks guys!"

[Demsrule86]

44. Why sure...let's stand on so called principle and impeach Trump into another four years...that will

show him and the pugs...

[jerrylp]

49. No Impeachment Inquiry Four More Years

For all the reasons that SunSeeker brilliantly stated in his or her post a public impeachment inquiry is a no brainer. Not only is it what the Constitution clearly demands be done it is the one strategy that has the best chance of winning back the White House. First of all, the official inquiry will allow for documents and testimonies to be more easily obtained and at a much more expedient rate. Since most U.S. citizens have not read the Mueller Report this will give people a chance to finally see the crimes and misdemeanors committed by this administration. Secondly, it will put Trump into a defensive posture for the entire campaign season.

In May of 1973 19% of the American population wanted Nixon removed from office. In August of 1974 that number was at 57%. It is no coincidence that these numbers changed following publicly televised Watergate hearings.

If this president's actions don't warrant at least an impeachment inquiry then our democracy is truly dead!

[gopiscrap]

50. welcome to DU