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riversedge

(70,197 posts)
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 09:22 AM Aug 2019

Attorney for Montana man who threw teen in national anthem attack says Trump rhetoric to blame

Source: CBS




August 8, 2019 / 7:36 AM / AP

The attorney for a Montana man accused of throwing a 13-year-old boy to the ground at a rodeo because the teenager didn't remove his hat during the national anthem said Wednesday his client believes he was acting on an order from President Donald Trump.

The president's "rhetoric" contributed to Curt Brockway's disposition when he grabbed the boy by the throat and slammed him to the ground, fracturing his skull, at the Mineral County fairgrounds Saturday, attorney Lance Jasper told The Missoulian .

Jasper said Brockway is a U.S. Army veteran who believes he was acting on an order by the commander in chief. He added that Brockway's decision-making has been affected by a traumatic brain injury he suffered in a vehicle crash in 2000 while he was stationed at Fort Lewis, Washington.


"His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished," Jasper said. "He certainly didn't understand it was a crime."...............

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/attorney-for-montana-man-who-threw-teen-in-national-anthem-attack-says-trump-rhetoric-to-blame/



People who follow Trump do not need a previous head injury to do dangerous things to others.

Per the article, Brockway has a brain injury, yet he was aware enough to say that the boy was disrespecting the Flag and he had a right to throw him to the ground. damn.





..........Jasper said Brockway is a U.S. Army veteran who believes he was acting on an order by the commander in chief. He added that Brockway's decision-making has been affected by a traumatic brain injury he suffered in a vehicle crash in 2000 while he was stationed at Fort Lewis, Washington.




Man allegedly throws 13-year-old boy to the ground for not taking hat off during national anthem


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/curt-james-brockway-national-anthem-montana-superior-mineral-county/

By Christopher Brito

August 7, 2019 / 1:22 PM / CBS News

A Montana man has been charged after he allegedly threw a 13-year-old to the ground because the boy didn't take his hat off during the national anthem at a rodeo event over the weekend, according to prosecutors. The teen was airlifted to a hospital with a possible concussion and skull fracture, Mineral County prosecutor Elena Donahue wrote in court documents, the Associated Press reported.

According to the prosecutor, Curt James Brockway, 39, told a sheriff's deputy that he asked the child to remove his hat out of respect before the "Star Spangled Banner" was played at the Mineral County Fairgrounds in Superior on Saturday. He said the boy cursed at him before Brockway grabbed him by the neck and slammed him to the floor.

A witness who was the rodeo told the Missoulian that Brockway tried justifying his actions by saying the boy "was disrespecting the national anthem so he had every right to do that."
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Attorney for Montana man who threw teen in national anthem attack says Trump rhetoric to blame (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2019 OP
Bullshit. Trump's words encouraged him, but I don't buy his "traumatic brain injury" claim unless Arkansas Granny Aug 2019 #1
He's going with the nutso defense underpants Aug 2019 #2
Then if he is that easily triggered azureblue Aug 2019 #34
If his only sorce of psych care is V.A., it is likely he never even saw a shrink. 3Hotdogs Aug 2019 #40
I'm surprised it doesn't happen more underpants Aug 2019 #43
Once upon a time customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #49
I will wait to see how this plays out. olegramps Aug 2019 #5
fuck that shit man!!! sdfernando Aug 2019 #21
Was he dismissed from the Scarsdale Aug 2019 #24
Doubt he will be sued. He probably ain't got nothin' to collect on if the suit is successfu.. 3Hotdogs Aug 2019 #41
Wow, another using the 'Trump Defense'. sinkingfeeling Aug 2019 #3
The Trump defense is the new Twinkie defense. Aristus Aug 2019 #8
Also DallasNE Aug 2019 #23
Affluenza? Scarsdale Aug 2019 #26
Beat me to it! Mme. Defarge Aug 2019 #36
I've been waiting for all of Trump's tactics to filter into the courts bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #4
The Trump defense IronLionZion Aug 2019 #6
The current version of the Twinkie Defense. NT enough Aug 2019 #7
So many excuses. What about some owning of responsibility for a change? ProudLib72 Aug 2019 #9
True, and of course tRump is the gold standard for not taking responsibility groundloop Aug 2019 #11
The hypocrisy of the right is stunning. CrispyQ Aug 2019 #15
Excuses, excuses, excuses. Talitha Aug 2019 #10
Good point..... and I bet he could have legally purchased an assault rifle groundloop Aug 2019 #12
The only reason he didn't have one was probably because he's on parole rpannier Aug 2019 #14
He's on probation for assault with a weapon... MontanaMama Aug 2019 #30
+1 bronxiteforever Aug 2019 #38
Ah, the "Flip Wilson" defense Dread Pirate Roberts Aug 2019 #13
Oh, wow. Now people are using the Trump defense strategy. What a world. Texin Aug 2019 #16
Brockway is a U.S. Army veteran who believes he was acting on an order by the commander in chief. blugbox Aug 2019 #17
Funny that you would mention that today, about the institutions. colorado_ufo Aug 2019 #22
Yes, and I do not mean it in a harmful way at all. blugbox Aug 2019 #29
The challenge will be in finding these people. colorado_ufo Aug 2019 #57
Lock him up Gothmog Aug 2019 #18
I was just following Orange. nt Xipe Totec Aug 2019 #19
this seems like a pretty thin defense. barbtries Aug 2019 #20
And how many guns does this "citizen" own? B Stieg Aug 2019 #25
So R's, is Trump's rhetoric inflammatory or not? elias7 Aug 2019 #27
If I'm not mistaken... WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2019 #28
Another possible reason for this defense: he wants Agolf Twitler to pay his legal fees Fritz Walter Aug 2019 #31
Did the child's parent(s) fight back during the assault? RT Atlanta Aug 2019 #32
Isn't that just another example the innocence of the gun? Cartaphelius Aug 2019 #33
....That is... titanicdave Aug 2019 #35
And the lawyer kept a straight face while saying this? marble falls Aug 2019 #37
In the meantime, because we have crappy, rationed healthcare with PatrickforO Aug 2019 #39
Sounds like spike91nz Aug 2019 #42
Bullshit The Mouth Aug 2019 #44
Cue the orchestra of tiny violins. Vinca Aug 2019 #45
Here's Yet Another Example of Us Playing Things Incorrectly. jayfish Aug 2019 #46
Ignorance of the law is no excuse. No excuse. ancianita Aug 2019 #47
Red Don is radicalizing...there's no doubt. I guess his attorney is hoping for a majority of Nevermypresident Aug 2019 #48
If true, Jose Garcia Aug 2019 #50
So he's basically saying what we all have known for ages SoCalNative Aug 2019 #51
Whatever, Counselor . . . hatrack Aug 2019 #52
Then he's DANGEROUS. Lock him up, Ilsa Aug 2019 #53
So patriotic! Bayard Aug 2019 #54
Man accused of fracturing 13-year-old's skull for not removing hat during national anthem Judi Lynn Aug 2019 #55
ridiculous Skittles Aug 2019 #56
wtf is wrong with these judges? Locrian Aug 2019 #58
Here we go with the "mental illness" angle, which sever DU'ers pushed for the recent shooters, too Tarc Aug 2019 #59

Arkansas Granny

(31,515 posts)
1. Bullshit. Trump's words encouraged him, but I don't buy his "traumatic brain injury" claim unless
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 09:28 AM
Aug 2019

I see a qualified physicians report.

underpants

(182,787 posts)
2. He's going with the nutso defense
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 09:35 AM
Aug 2019

Might work. You’ve gotta be pretty messed up to take Trump seriously.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
34. Then if he is that easily triggered
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:04 PM
Aug 2019

He shouldn't be out in public, but in a "home" getting help. I seriously doubt a shrink would let a patient who is that easily triggered and prone to violence, be unsupervised in public.

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
40. If his only sorce of psych care is V.A., it is likely he never even saw a shrink.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:20 PM
Aug 2019

I still hope he gets a year or two in the Hotel Graybar.

underpants

(182,787 posts)
43. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:28 PM
Aug 2019

They have stuff like this - has absolutely no bearing on their life at all - jammed down their throats all the time.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
49. Once upon a time
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 01:51 PM
Aug 2019

we institutionalized mentally ill people. Now, they're "mainstreamed" and able to go out and buy weapons.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
5. I will wait to see how this plays out.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 09:45 AM
Aug 2019

But a person has to not be thinking straight to support Trump. We have millions supporting a party that wants to dissolve their SS and Medicare along with ACA who would be helpless without these programs.

sdfernando

(4,931 posts)
21. fuck that shit man!!!
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:24 AM
Aug 2019

the prosecution needs to subpoena ALL his medical records...both during his time in service and post. These claims must be proved by HIM otherwise it is just shit thrown on a wall. I also hope the kids family sues this guy to high heaven in civil court and takes him for every penny he has!

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
23. Also
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:29 AM
Aug 2019

Like the drunk teenager that wasn't responsible for killing 4 people while driving drunk because his parents were wealthy and that caused him not to know it was wrong to drive while drunk - or along those lines - that wealth was a form of mental illness. And the high priced attorney's actually get them off.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
26. Affluenza?
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:33 AM
Aug 2019

Details on the car accident would be helpful. Was it a drunk driving accident?At first they let everyone think it was service related brain injury. Unless it happened while he was on duty, then it would be suspicious.

bucolic_frolic

(43,140 posts)
4. I've been waiting for all of Trump's tactics to filter into the courts
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 09:43 AM
Aug 2019

as excuses for miscreants, basically some excuse in the form of 'the law doesn't apply to me'. Here we have criminal as Trump automaton, programmed by Trump media tweets/speeches/words/deeds that direct people Trump never met to do a certain deed.

"Son, you were going 75 in a 35 mile per hour zone by my radar gun!"

"Officer, President Trump made me do it, he told me to obey his authority."

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
9. So many excuses. What about some owning of responsibility for a change?
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 09:54 AM
Aug 2019

Whatever happened to anyone saying they had made a terrible mistake and are working to correct it? You know, I would have a hell of a lot more respect for this asshole if he just said he had explosive anger issues and was in counseling. But, of course, that would mean admitting the fault lay with him instead of the child emperor.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
11. True, and of course tRump is the gold standard for not taking responsibility
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:18 AM
Aug 2019

So once again, they're following his example.

CrispyQ

(36,460 posts)
15. The hypocrisy of the right is stunning.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:34 AM
Aug 2019

The party of personal responsibility, my ass. They always have someone else to blame.

Talitha

(6,582 posts)
10. Excuses, excuses, excuses.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:16 AM
Aug 2019

If the guy's that volatile he should be on meds, or institutionalized.

Good thing he didn't have a weapon.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
14. The only reason he didn't have one was probably because he's on parole
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:34 AM
Aug 2019

and listed a violent

Otherwise, who knows what could have happened

MontanaMama

(23,308 posts)
30. He's on probation for assault with a weapon...
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:43 AM
Aug 2019

He pulled a gun on a family and threatened to kill them all. I’m researching whether he did this before or after the car accident and alleged brain injury. This is going to blow up, I fear. I called and emailed the court who released this guy in the hope of rattling a few cages. Letting him out of jail seems incredibly unreasonable to me. Brockway appears in court here in Missoula on August 14th before judge John Larson...I’m hopeful the tRump defense doesn’t play well there.

blugbox

(951 posts)
17. Brockway is a U.S. Army veteran who believes he was acting on an order by the commander in chief.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:50 AM
Aug 2019

That sentence just disgusts me.

Yeah, he didn't take off his hat, so prez says choke slam the child to the ground and smash his skull!!

If there are truly this many violently mentally ill people out there, they need to bring back institutions or something... people that close to the edge of child murder just hangin out makes me very uncomfortable

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
22. Funny that you would mention that today, about the institutions.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:26 AM
Aug 2019

My friend, a lady of almost 90 years old, mentioned that yesterday to me. She said that communities used to have places to keep people like this, but now they are just released into the community.

blugbox

(951 posts)
29. Yes, and I do not mean it in a harmful way at all.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:42 AM
Aug 2019

Hopefully it would be a place of healing and comfort.

If my own mother lost her mind to the point where she started acting out violently and was a danger to others, I would want her to be somewhere safe from the public and vice versa. I know it is an extremely difficult subject, and nothing just "works out" like that... but doing nothing cannot be an option either.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
57. The challenge will be in finding these people.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 05:29 PM
Aug 2019

Families "protect" them out of loyalty, guilt, and/or shame.

barbtries

(28,788 posts)
20. this seems like a pretty thin defense.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:24 AM
Aug 2019

if it flies, would it absolve mass shooters like the kid in El Paso?

also, if this guy really thought that felonious assault was legal if it was done against a child who was being disrespectful, he's fucking stupid. also not a credible defense.

elias7

(3,997 posts)
27. So R's, is Trump's rhetoric inflammatory or not?
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:34 AM
Aug 2019

In one breath, they’ll say that his rhetoric is not to blame for El Paso and Toledo (read: Dayton), and in another they’ll use his rhetoric as a defense. Stunning hypocrisy.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
28. If I'm not mistaken...
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:35 AM
Aug 2019

The military can refuse an order they feel is unlawful, even from the Commander-In-Chief, although at their own peril. https://www.thebalancecareers.com/military-orders-3332819

This is just another wing nut looking to blame someone else for their actions.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
31. Another possible reason for this defense: he wants Agolf Twitler to pay his legal fees
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:49 AM
Aug 2019

As was promised on the campaign trail 3 years ago:

“If you do (hurt him), I’ll defend you in court, don’t worry about it”

Trump said this during another rally in March 2016, this time at Macomb County Community College in Warren, Michigan. The familiar pattern was on display — a small group of protesters outstays their welcome and are forcibly removed from the venue, and Trump encourages violence among his followers.

Addressing a particular section of the crowd, Trump says “Yeah get him out, try not to hurt him. If you do I’ll defend you in court, don’t worry about it.”

Source: Snopes

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
32. Did the child's parent(s) fight back during the assault?
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:55 AM
Aug 2019

I can only imagine the fright factor with them (and the child of course) but curious how long it took folks to pull the assaulter off the child.

 

Cartaphelius

(868 posts)
33. Isn't that just another example the innocence of the gun?
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:57 AM
Aug 2019

Trumps gave him the bullet and the permission and the authority to chamber
the round.

According to the NRA and the right, the gun isn't fault, even though it had a hair
trigger. It wasn't the bullets fault because without the gun, it is supposedly inert.

But in truth, when was the last time hate was inert?

The "moron" that is the loaded gun that discharged the hate given freely to him
by another moron.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
39. In the meantime, because we have crappy, rationed healthcare with
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:18 PM
Aug 2019

financially crippling copays, this family might be out tens of thousands of dollars and now heading toward bankruptcy because of this Trump supporter nut job.

So, once again Republicans put the screws to us from both ends - shareholders just HAVE to have their profits, even if it means poor treatment or no treatment, and Trump's supporters are so ignorant they feel they can do violence to anyone they want who isn't like them or who doesn't do what they think Trump has 'ordered.'

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
46. Here's Yet Another Example of Us Playing Things Incorrectly.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:45 PM
Aug 2019

Embrace this. It's Trumps fault! I still would have knocked that fucker out had I watched him do it.

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
48. Red Don is radicalizing...there's no doubt. I guess his attorney is hoping for a majority of
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 01:25 PM
Aug 2019

rethugs on the jury (if a trial by jury happens in this case).

Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
55. Man accused of fracturing 13-year-old's skull for not removing hat during national anthem
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 04:18 PM
Aug 2019


08/06/2019 4:50 pm PDT

SUPERIOR, Mont. (WJW/CNN) -- A Montana man is accused of assaulting a teenage boy during the national anthem at the Mineral County Fairgrounds this weekend, according to KPAX.

Witnesses told deputies the suspect grabbed, picked up and slammed the boy on the ground — apparently because he did not remove his hat during the national anthem.

Within minutes after dropping her son off at the fairgrounds, Megan Keeler says she received a phone call stating her son was on his way to the hospital.

. . .

“He’s deathly afraid of strangers. He doesn’t remember anything. All the witnesses I have talked to said this was completely random,” Keeler said. “There was no exchange – nothing! He targeted Wally and took him down,” she added.

. . .

This is not Brockway’s first run in with police. KPAX obtained court documents from a 2010 incident when he pleaded guilty to an assault with a weapon charge. In that 2010 incident, Brockway pulled up to a parked vehicle, got out and pulled a gun on a family and stated he was going to kill them.

He was sentenced to 10 years with the Montana Department of Corrections, all of which were suspended.

https://truecrimedaily.com/2019/08/06/man-accused-of-fracturing-13-year-olds-skull-for-not-removing-hat-during-national-anthem/

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
58. wtf is wrong with these judges?
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:12 AM
Aug 2019

WTF? Oh yeah, he's white. Think any brown person or Muslim, etc would get these breaks?
Somebody needs to have a hard look at these judges...


This is not Brockway’s first run in with police. KPAX obtained court documents from a 2010 incident when he pleaded guilty to an assault with a weapon charge. In that 2010 incident, Brockway pulled up to a parked vehicle, got out and pulled a gun on a family and stated he was going to kill them.
He was sentenced to 10 years with the Montana Department of Corrections, all of which were suspended.


The state requested that Brockway’s bond be set to $100,000, but a judge ruled that Brockway can be released on his own recognizance.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
59. Here we go with the "mental illness" angle, which sever DU'ers pushed for the recent shooters, too
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:49 AM
Aug 2019

Pathetic.

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