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UpInArms

(51,252 posts)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:00 AM Jul 2019

'Serving under Trump is embarrassing': Fifth Republican congressman retires in just two weeks as GOP

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by JudyM (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: The Independent via yahoo news

'Serving under Trump is embarrassing': Fifth Republican congressman retires in just two weeks as GOP fears more exits

The fifth Republican congressman in two weeks is set to step down as the GOP reportedly fears a wave of retirements amid ongoing tension in the party over Donald Trump’s presidency.

Representative Mike Conaway will not seek re-election to his Texas seat in 2020, according to Politico, but has not confirmed his decision or his reason for retiring.

However, House Republicans are reportedly worried that the difficulties of serving under Mr Trump and working with a Democratic majority in Congress will lead to more exits.

“Serving in the era of Trump has few rewards. He has made an already hostile political environment worse,” Tom Davis, a former senior Republican congressman, told The Hill.

“Every day there is some indefensible tweet or comment to defend or explain. It is exhausting and often embarrassing.


Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/serving-under-trump-embarrassing-fifth-104531664.html

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'Serving under Trump is embarrassing': Fifth Republican congressman retires in just two weeks as GOP (Original Post) UpInArms Jul 2019 OP
Does anyone besides me think Ohiogal Jul 2019 #1
The klan will be out in force. We might even get a witch or two pecosbob Jul 2019 #20
Lol. No you're not! ananda Jul 2019 #21
If the pattern continues, the next ones will be worse DrToast Jul 2019 #26
It's a cult mechanic. The "moderates" step away and are replaced by the more fanatical. Midnight Writer Jul 2019 #49
right up to the point lapfog_1 Jul 2019 #51
Another spineless coward LiberalLovinLug Jul 2019 #56
Exactly. Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #58
Don't feel your pain underpants Jul 2019 #2
You said it. NT enough Jul 2019 #5
Agreed, they have been willing to use him for potential long term gains cstanleytech Jul 2019 #6
ah, but my bet is that he will continue to vote with Trump until he is gone!! riversedge Jul 2019 #3
Please stay in long enough to vote for impeachment. (nt) klook Jul 2019 #4
Yes, this ⬆⬆⬆ Duppers Jul 2019 #31
Sure, quit when it gets tough. grumpyduck Jul 2019 #7
+1 Delmette2.0 Jul 2019 #28
COWARDS Hulk Jul 2019 #8
Exactly. They are cowards who refuse to stand up to Ilsa Jul 2019 #53
This is an ultraconservative. serving west Texas. efhmc Jul 2019 #9
An oodles of red hot racists are waiting to take his place. crazytown Jul 2019 #17
I am sure you are right. Our family's ranch is in this district efhmc Jul 2019 #42
(sigh) Yes. crazytown Jul 2019 #44
Merely embarrassing? Can't stand the heat, eh? Ford_Prefect Jul 2019 #10
He is hideous and sees no one in his Tx. office but his wealthy donors. efhmc Jul 2019 #43
Methinks he knows the feces are about to hit the fan and he wants out of the line of fire. Ford_Prefect Jul 2019 #63
I hope Republican retirements are contagious and spread to the Senate. Lonestarblue Jul 2019 #11
They're catching the Blue Flu Scotch-Irish Jul 2019 #48
"Every day there is some indefensible tweet or comment to defend or explain." Botany Jul 2019 #12
"Serving under"? You're part of a coequal branch of government, dipshit . . . hatrack Jul 2019 #13
Exactly! Apparently most Republicans are constitutionally ignorant though. nt WePurrsevere Jul 2019 #15
"Coequal"? Where did you get that notion? The Constitution? JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2019 #59
If it's exhausting and embarrassing, stop doing it! DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #14
Quitter IronLionZion Jul 2019 #16
Now, if only we can get five Republican senators to retire or be defeated... LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2019 #18
Of the 22 Repubs running, only five have one Dem opponent. The rest are 3 or more Dems, thus will ancianita Jul 2019 #60
Embarrassing? Farting in an elevator is embarrassing. Enabling Fat Donnie's insanity LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2019 #61
"Every day there is some indefensible tweet or comment to defend or explain" Martin Eden Jul 2019 #19
Watch what they DO, not what they say! n/t Eyeball_Kid Jul 2019 #22
BOOM! calimary Jul 2019 #23
True -- Martin Eden Jul 2019 #27
This headline is very misleading Gregory Peccary Jul 2019 #24
Trump is an embarrassment, and not just to Republicans. He has embarrassed PatrickforO Jul 2019 #25
Don't quit! Fight him... dchill Jul 2019 #29
Eventually duforsure Jul 2019 #30
I'm shocked! vlyons Jul 2019 #32
nagging conscience maybe? onetexan Jul 2019 #36
He knows that it's no fun being a grifter, vlyons Jul 2019 #40
I think their basic reason for leaving is to not damage their reputation any more than it already is llmart Jul 2019 #33
Another rat leaves the ship. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2019 #34
"But until the day I retire" bluevoter4life Jul 2019 #35
This guy lost 2 House chairmanship seats after the 2018 election FakeNoose Jul 2019 #37
Curious how many GOPers are willing to quit instead of holding the POS accountable. Rabrrrrrr Jul 2019 #38
"Every day there is some indefensible tweet... lastlib Jul 2019 #39
You serve the people of your district, not Dorito Mussolini. muntrv Jul 2019 #41
Lie down with dogs.... zentrum Jul 2019 #45
This guy has it all wrong. sdfernando Jul 2019 #46
Let's face it. Everything below the waist is kaput! dogknob Jul 2019 #47
His use of the phrase "serving under Trump" illustrates a big part of the problem DavidDvorkin Jul 2019 #50
If those with a shred of integrity leave, will that not self-select for a more racist GOP? guillaumeb Jul 2019 #52
Quite possibly so. Qutzupalotl Jul 2019 #57
fuck these people Skittles Jul 2019 #54
I don't think this is all about Trump. Marie Marie Jul 2019 #55
Pathetic AF Blue Owl Jul 2019 #62
Locking. JudyM Aug 2019 #64

Ohiogal

(31,657 posts)
1. Does anyone besides me think
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:04 AM
Jul 2019

there will be no shortage of racists and traitors to step up to fill his slot....

pecosbob

(7,502 posts)
20. The klan will be out in force. We might even get a witch or two
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:41 AM
Jul 2019

ananda

(28,781 posts)
21. Lol. No you're not!
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:42 AM
Jul 2019

That's just who the Reeps are these days.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
26. If the pattern continues, the next ones will be worse
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:05 AM
Jul 2019

Which is a scary thought.

Midnight Writer

(21,546 posts)
49. It's a cult mechanic. The "moderates" step away and are replaced by the more fanatical.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:21 PM
Jul 2019

This in turn causes the cult to be more fanatical, which attracts even more fanatical followers. A cycle towards insanity.

lapfog_1

(29,166 posts)
51. right up to the point
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:48 PM
Jul 2019

that the diehards all kill themselves in a bunker in Berlin or wearing purple robes waiting for the alien spaceship to transport them to their white nationalist nirvana.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,153 posts)
56. Another spineless coward
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:46 PM
Jul 2019

I mean great that he expressed himself on Trump, but why not run as a Never-Trump Republican? If he loses, he loses. If he was that much against Trump, he'd put his money where his mouth is. And he'd feel a duty and obligation to spread the message.

Mr.Bill

(24,103 posts)
58. Exactly.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:12 PM
Jul 2019

Get a backbone.

Grandad, what did you do to fight the rise of the Nazis in the 2020s?

I resigned from Congress and gave up what power I had to fight it.

underpants

(182,271 posts)
2. Don't feel your pain
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:05 AM
Jul 2019

Step up don’t step down.

enough

(13,235 posts)
5. You said it. NT
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:08 AM
Jul 2019

cstanleytech

(26,080 posts)
6. Agreed, they have been willing to use him for potential long term gains
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:10 AM
Jul 2019

with appointments to the courts so I have zero sympathy for any Repugnant.

riversedge

(69,709 posts)
3. ah, but my bet is that he will continue to vote with Trump until he is gone!!
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:06 AM
Jul 2019

klook

(12,134 posts)
4. Please stay in long enough to vote for impeachment. (nt)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:08 AM
Jul 2019

Duppers

(28,094 posts)
31. Yes, this ⬆⬆⬆
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:27 AM
Jul 2019

TY!

grumpyduck

(6,197 posts)
7. Sure, quit when it gets tough.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:18 AM
Jul 2019

That is NOT the American way, asshole!

Delmette2.0

(4,141 posts)
28. +1
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:06 AM
Jul 2019
 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
8. COWARDS
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:18 AM
Jul 2019

Yes...serving under this deceitful con artist, lying coward is embarrassing; and enabling this disgraceful, treasonous sack of horse shit SHOULD BE just as embarrassing...but repuKKKes NEVER accept responsibility for their cowardice and silence.

Cowards!

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
53. Exactly. They are cowards who refuse to stand up to
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 03:14 PM
Jul 2019

the bully and his enablers, especially the foreign enablers. Quitting instead of fighting is unpatriotic at best.

I bet he votes for the asshole.

efhmc

(14,709 posts)
9. This is an ultraconservative. serving west Texas.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:23 AM
Jul 2019

I used to be in his district before redistricting. Really surprised he is leaving because of Trump. He easily defeated a good Democrat in 2018.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
17. An oodles of red hot racists are waiting to take his place.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:34 AM
Jul 2019

efhmc

(14,709 posts)
42. I am sure you are right. Our family's ranch is in this district
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:47 PM
Jul 2019

and anyone with a D by his/her name is considered a socialist., although a person with a great deal of gravitas and community standing might make a difference. But most people do not see it as worth the effort.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
44. (sigh) Yes.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jul 2019

There was a time when 'conservative' had some meaning. Now Republican means winning with the lowest common denominator.

Ford_Prefect

(7,817 posts)
10. Merely embarrassing? Can't stand the heat, eh?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:35 AM
Jul 2019

Wow is this guy a piece of work:

In February 2018, Conaway prevented efforts by the Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee to investigate financial links between Trump, his businesses, his family and Russian actors.[14] Conaway prevented subpoenas for related bank records, Trump's tax returns and witnesses.[14] Democrats on the Committee had, for example, asked for subpoenas to Deutsche Bank, which the Trump Organization and Jared Kushner (Trump's son-in-law and senior White House advisor) have borrowed extensively from.[14]

In March 2018, Conaway laid out the findings of a report by the Republican members of the House Intelligence Committee.[15] One of the findings was that the committee had found no evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign in the 2016 election; Democrats on the committee said that they had come to no such conclusion.[15] A few days later, Conaway walked back that finding, saying "Our committee was not charged with answering the collusion idea".[15] Asked why the committee drew a conclusion if it had not investigated the matter, Conaway denied that the committee had drawn a conclusion, "What we said is we found no evidence of it. That’s a different statement. We found no evidence of collusion."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Conaway

efhmc

(14,709 posts)
43. He is hideous and sees no one in his Tx. office but his wealthy donors.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:51 PM
Jul 2019

That is why I am wondering why he is really quiting. He was there for life.

Ford_Prefect

(7,817 posts)
63. Methinks he knows the feces are about to hit the fan and he wants out of the line of fire.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:56 PM
Jul 2019

As If.....

He's a GOP lifer with plans to sit out the catastrophe somewhere near his offshore account.

Lonestarblue

(9,874 posts)
11. I hope Republican retirements are contagious and spread to the Senate.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:36 AM
Jul 2019

A few retirements of Republican senators would be good about now.

 

Scotch-Irish

(464 posts)
48. They're catching the Blue Flu
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:39 PM
Jul 2019

Seeing how real Americans (democrats) stand up for this country is making the republicans sick.

Botany

(70,286 posts)
12. "Every day there is some indefensible tweet or comment to defend or explain."
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:37 AM
Jul 2019

Now we need some republicans to stand up and call for Trump's impeachment, that Trump is
a crook, and that he was installed by Russia.


hatrack

(59,439 posts)
13. "Serving under"? You're part of a coequal branch of government, dipshit . . .
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:45 AM
Jul 2019

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
15. Exactly! Apparently most Republicans are constitutionally ignorant though. nt
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:13 AM
Jul 2019

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,282 posts)
59. "Coequal"? Where did you get that notion? The Constitution?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:19 PM
Jul 2019

Some call it a "living document", subject to change and interpretation in current society.

Some say it should be interpreted literally. What's in it is in it; what ain't, ain't.

Still others, we call them "Republicans", think it is a doormat, toilet paper, kindling, to be ignored.

The Senate works for Trump. The Supreme Court works for Trump. The House is full of socialists who should go back to from whence they came.

Coequal?

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
14. If it's exhausting and embarrassing, stop doing it!
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:01 AM
Jul 2019

Saying the truth would make Rs feel so much better.

IronLionZion

(45,254 posts)
16. Quitter
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:33 AM
Jul 2019

GOPers don't have the backbone to stand up to a bully in their own party. They always put party over country and always think of themselves first.

18. Now, if only we can get five Republican senators to retire or be defeated...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:39 AM
Jul 2019

ancianita

(35,812 posts)
60. Of the 22 Repubs running, only five have one Dem opponent. The rest are 3 or more Dems, thus will
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:28 PM
Jul 2019

likely divide up the vote so the Repubs retain their seats. At least that's how it looks.

LA's Repub senator is running unopposed, which doesn't look good for LA Dems or the national party.

Looks like the country is pretty hardened around its senators, almost no Dems are likely to lose. And no Repubs are, except in the "Lean" and "Likely" categories. But multiple Dem opponents, along with the way gerrymandering and vote suppression go in those states, the Repub incumbent is all the more likely to squeak through.

But I don't understand how the party is working for Democratic senatorial candidates, though.

So I wish someone here would help us understand how the party is actually working on these campaigns.

61. Embarrassing? Farting in an elevator is embarrassing. Enabling Fat Donnie's insanity
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:11 PM
Jul 2019

is at the very least humiliating and at the most degrading. How do these people face their children and grandchildren, knowing what kind of country and world this madman and his acolytes are creating for them to live in? And knowing that they had the power to stop him and did nothing, choosing instead to quiver in fear of "the Base"?

#1984WasNotMeantToBeAnInstructionManual

Martin Eden

(12,802 posts)
19. "Every day there is some indefensible tweet or comment to defend or explain"
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:41 AM
Jul 2019

Then STAND UP TO THE FASCIST instead of defending him!!

Eyeball_Kid

(7,410 posts)
22. Watch what they DO, not what they say! n/t
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:45 AM
Jul 2019

calimary

(80,693 posts)
23. BOOM!
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:52 AM
Jul 2019

THIS!

Martin Eden

(12,802 posts)
27. True --
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:05 AM
Jul 2019

They will still vote R-Fascist.

Gregory Peccary

(490 posts)
24. This headline is very misleading
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:52 AM
Jul 2019

Conaway did not say why he is planning to retire. He doesn't state that "Trump is embarrassing" is the reason why. That's purely assumption.

PatrickforO

(14,514 posts)
25. Trump is an embarrassment, and not just to Republicans. He has embarrassed
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:57 AM
Jul 2019

this entire nation, brought shame upon us and our people. He is a cheap, tawdry, treasonous, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, justice obstructing, witness tampering rat who is not only guilty of all those things, but is guilty also of crimes against humanity. While I feel bad for the karmic burden he has heaped on himself, I feel worse for the suffering he has caused and is causing millions throughout the world.

dchill

(38,315 posts)
29. Don't quit! Fight him...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:07 AM
Jul 2019

Be an AMERICAN!

duforsure

(11,882 posts)
30. Eventually
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:18 AM
Jul 2019

They'll start switching sides in the Senate to take Moscow Mitch ,Putin's other puppet, out of control.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
32. I'm shocked!
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:28 AM
Jul 2019

Republicans can be embarrassed ??

TX 11th district. South of Ft Worth and extends west out to Midland & Odessa. Cattle ranching and oil. Very red.

onetexan

(12,994 posts)
36. nagging conscience maybe?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:46 AM
Jul 2019

If he really has a conscience he would quit this traitorous party.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
40. He knows that it's no fun being a grifter,
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:05 PM
Jul 2019

when the Dems are exercising oversight. So he's probably off to cash in as a lobbyist.

llmart

(15,499 posts)
33. I think their basic reason for leaving is to not damage their reputation any more than it already is
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:30 AM
Jul 2019

They may have plans for their future and just now are realizing that if they are associated with him too much longer, those plans will be dead in the water. They are relying on looking like they cared enough to not align themselves with trump, but some of us have very long memories.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
34. Another rat leaves the ship. (nt)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:31 AM
Jul 2019

bluevoter4life

(784 posts)
35. "But until the day I retire"
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:45 AM
Jul 2019

"I will continue to vote to advance Trump's agenda"


Chickenshit

FakeNoose

(32,328 posts)
37. This guy lost 2 House chairmanship seats after the 2018 election
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:46 AM
Jul 2019

He was Chairman of both the Agriculture and Ethics Committees. Now he's just the ranking member for both. Also he's on the Intelligence Committee, and he's probably seen the horrifying worst of Chump's Russian treason.

I'll bet he's had enough for one career, time to get out while he still can.

Rabrrrrrr

(58,347 posts)
38. Curious how many GOPers are willing to quit instead of holding the POS accountable.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:53 AM
Jul 2019

"He's terrible, but I don't have enough of a backbone to stand up to him, so I'm leaving you with the cleanup and the mess."

Fuck you. If you can't serve under him, then help us fire the shitstain.

lastlib

(22,978 posts)
39. "Every day there is some indefensible tweet...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:57 AM
Jul 2019

...or comment to defend or explain. It is exhausting and often embarrassing."

Then STOP DEFENDING THEM, Dipshit!! It's that simple!

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
41. You serve the people of your district, not Dorito Mussolini.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:10 PM
Jul 2019

Typical ignoramus.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
45. Lie down with dogs....
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:09 PM
Jul 2019

...get up with fleas.

Should have spoken up way before this.

sdfernando

(4,896 posts)
46. This guy has it all wrong.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:17 PM
Jul 2019

Dude, you are a member of Congress....a CO-EQUAL Branch of the government. You are not "serving" under anyone except for your constituents who gave you the job. Don't run away, man up, take responsibility and DO SOMETHING productive!!!!

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
47. Let's face it. Everything below the waist is kaput!
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:25 PM
Jul 2019

DavidDvorkin

(19,404 posts)
50. His use of the phrase "serving under Trump" illustrates a big part of the problem
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:41 PM
Jul 2019

Namel, that Republicans in Congress see themselves as subordinate to a Republican president instead of part of a branch that's separate from and equal to the Executive branch.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
52. If those with a shred of integrity leave, will that not self-select for a more racist GOP?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 03:00 PM
Jul 2019

Qutzupalotl

(14,230 posts)
57. Quite possibly so.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:11 PM
Jul 2019

All the more reason to make sure they stay in the minority in the House and lose the Senate and WH.

One hopes the electorate will see how racist the GOP has become and shun them even further.

I remember people predicting the demise of the GOP if Trump got the nomination. We may be watching that play out slowly and painfully.

From a demographic perspective, the Republican Party is on borrowed time, sustaining its grip on power through various methods of cheating and corruption.

Skittles

(152,964 posts)
54. fuck these people
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:34 PM
Jul 2019

they helped to create this monster, now they are running from him

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
55. I don't think this is all about Trump.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:39 PM
Jul 2019

I think it is more about no longer having the majority in the House. If they did, he would happily keep supporting Trump's agenda.

Blue Owl

(49,906 posts)
62. Pathetic AF
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:46 PM
Jul 2019

JudyM

(29,122 posts)
64. Locking.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:33 AM
Aug 2019

Hosts are in agreement that the subject line belies what actually happened... "However, he did not explicitly attribute blame to the president." The blaming of tRump is done only in the author's analysis of the larger setting. So not “important news of national interest” as required for posting a thread in LBN.

Fine to repost in LBN if you’d like.

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