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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:33 AM Jul 2019

2 Republican senators introduce resolution to label antifa as domestic terrorists

Source: The Hill


BY ZACK BUDRYK - 07/21/19 09:02 AM EDT

Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Ted Cruz (R-Texas) have introduced a nonbinding resolution that would label antifascist activists known as antifa as “domestic terrorists,” according to the Washington Post.

“Antifa are terrorists, violent masked bullies who ‘fight fascism’ with actual fascism, protected by Liberal privilege,” Cassidy said in a statement. “Bullies get their way until someone says no. Elected officials must have courage, not cowardice, to prevent terror.”

While there is no specific crime called “domestic terrorism,” applying such a designation allows law enforcement to look into a suspect’s known associates and affiliations.

While conservatives and centrists have long blasted antifa activists, who have been involved in street brawls with right-wing groups and left conservative journalist Andy Ngo bloodied in Portland, Ore., last month, critics of the measure have cited antifa’s lack of a formal organizational structure and said this could open the door to overly-broad enforcement, according to the Post.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/454038-2-republican-senators-introduce-resolution-to-label-antifa-as-domestic

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2 Republican senators introduce resolution to label antifa as domestic terrorists (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2019 OP
If there was ever a politicized bill this is it bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #1
Could Antifa grow into a national movement especially among younger people? olegramps Jul 2019 #11
correct, it does seem to be ad hoc, on the fly bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #15
What will that solve? ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2019 #2
But MoveOn never advocates violence. That a huge difference. oldsoftie Jul 2019 #6
So...Nazis, the KKK, Skinheads are not domestic terrorists according to the GOP onetexan Jul 2019 #3
Ditto. iluvtennis Jul 2019 #19
They aren't terrorists - they are the Republican base DBoon Jul 2019 #28
Actually the KKK is listed as a domestic terrorist group NT ripcord Jul 2019 #30
by the feds? i certainly hope so. I know the SPLC lists them as terrorists. onetexan Jul 2019 #31
More absurdity and blame reversal from the party that can come up with no better defense. Firestorm49 Jul 2019 #4
Dems should amend the bill to label the Proud Boys with the same designation. LonePirate Jul 2019 #5
Exactly oldsoftie Jul 2019 #7
Better, they should slam the whole bill as an admission that Cruz and Cassidy unknowingly support ancianita Jul 2019 #23
If they are terrorist, so am I The Liberal Lion Jul 2019 #8
+1000 To know their history is to be on their side of history. ancianita Jul 2019 #20
What he said fits trump better than Antifa appleannie1 Jul 2019 #9
Exactly The Liberal Lion Jul 2019 #25
Caroline Orr posted the numbers on antifa violence Pantagruel Jul 2019 #10
Is this a blog or a news site? Would you please link? ancianita Jul 2019 #21
They are nothing compared to the white supremacists. ananda Jul 2019 #12
Proud Boys, too. LogicFirst Jul 2019 #13
They should start by naming any WW2 Vets still living .... JAD Jul 2019 #14
I thought the 'terrorist' label amcgrath Jul 2019 #16
America fought a war against fascists dem in texas Jul 2019 #17
Who'd a thunk there would be "Premature anti-Fascists..." malthaussen Jul 2019 #18
Cassidy and Cruz, thereby, ADMIT that fascism exists. Only a fascist regime labels antifa terrorist ancianita Jul 2019 #22
ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!! JAD Jul 2019 #27
Cassidy and Cruz are fascists then. Dawson Leery Jul 2019 #24
"protected by Liberal privilege" icymist Jul 2019 #26
The inspiration for antifa goes back to 1930s Britain DBoon Jul 2019 #29
Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-Dumb) and Ted Cruz (R-Dumber) ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2019 #32
So the Proud Boys get just a slap on the wrist? Initech Jul 2019 #33
If I gotta,,,, Cryptoad Jul 2019 #34
Wait...How Many People Has Antifa Killed Again? The_Counsel Jul 2019 #35

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
11. Could Antifa grow into a national movement especially among younger people?
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:36 AM
Jul 2019

I would like to know more about its potential. There doesn't seem to be very much available about the movement. It seems to not have any structure.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
15. correct, it does seem to be ad hoc, on the fly
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:28 PM
Jul 2019

so how you classify this or that sometimes yes or sometimes no on again off again is a mystery to all

that's why this bill is such bunk

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,722 posts)
2. What will that solve?
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:56 AM
Jul 2019

NOTHING.....

All that means that resistance groups like Indivisible, Move On, and others that question Trump's policies will be looked at as such groups like the KKK, who are allowed to exist. A group with a violent and racist history that killed people.

oldsoftie

(12,489 posts)
6. But MoveOn never advocates violence. That a huge difference.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:53 AM
Jul 2019

Antifa isnt a "liberal" group, they're anarchists. But a bill like this should include ALL who advocate violence.

onetexan

(13,020 posts)
3. So...Nazis, the KKK, Skinheads are not domestic terrorists according to the GOP
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:15 AM
Jul 2019

What nonsense. Everyone attending the Idiot's fascist rally in NC chanting those hateful words need to be branded as domestic terrorists given they've engaged in threats against 4 US Congresswomen.

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
23. Better, they should slam the whole bill as an admission that Cruz and Cassidy unknowingly support
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 02:24 PM
Jul 2019

fascism.

Lay out all the ways that fascism is real in this administration's messaging and actions, point by point.

Lay out all the ways that antifa(scism) rejects public normalization of fascist messaging and action.

They have to nip this in the bud.

They cannot stoop to this level and thereby validate it.

appleannie1

(5,062 posts)
9. What he said fits trump better than Antifa
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:21 AM
Jul 2019

“Bullies get their way until someone says no. Elected officials must have courage, not cowardice, to prevent terror.”

If they honestly believed that they should say "NO" to trump.

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
10. Caroline Orr posted the numbers on antifa violence
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:34 AM
Jul 2019

-30 years of antifascist activity in the US: 1 confirmed fatality (a nazi who was shot during an altercation in 1993).

-20 years of far-right extremist activity (1990-2012) in the US: 670 fatalities, 3,053 nonfatal injuries, & 4,420 attacks.

JAD

(187 posts)
14. They should start by naming any WW2 Vets still living ....
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:59 AM
Jul 2019

that fought in General Patton's or General Clark's Army in WW2.

Obama's grandfather, Stanley Dunham, fought in Patton's Third Army.

amcgrath

(397 posts)
16. I thought the 'terrorist' label
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:34 PM
Jul 2019

Was normally designated by the security agencies rather than a couple of senators.

That aside, the obvious outcome of this, is that anybody opposing Trump will automatically be classifiable as anti- fascist.

It's also a little hypocritical considering the thousands of war memorials in the US, that commemorate the sacrifices made by people fighting fascism

dem in texas

(2,673 posts)
17. America fought a war against fascists
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 01:23 PM
Jul 2019

WWII was a war against fascism. Over 500,000 American soldiers were killed, millions of Jewish people were exterminated by Nazi fascists. We should all be part of the Antifa protesters. There is no place for fascism in American

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
18. Who'd a thunk there would be "Premature anti-Fascists..."
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 01:33 PM
Jul 2019

... so long after the breakup of the USSR? Plus ca change...

-- Mal

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
29. The inspiration for antifa goes back to 1930s Britain
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 03:58 PM
Jul 2019
https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-10-05/britain-remembers-massive-riot-against-fascism-london-1936

Unfortunately for antifa, it wasn't the street confrontation ,that defeated British fascism:

Most historians now agree that the Battle of Cable Street did not defeat fascism and anti-Semitism in Britain, and in fact gave them a short term boost.

They say what really defeated the Fascists in Britain was their failure at the ballot box — they never became more than a fringe group. As one citizen wrote to his local paper after seeing a Fascist rally: "I came to the conclusion that Mosley was a political maniac, and that all decent English people must combine to kill his movement."

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
32. Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-Dumb) and Ted Cruz (R-Dumber) ...
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 05:21 PM
Jul 2019

... advocate imprisoning all surviving WWII veterans because ...

... they shot and killed God damned NAZIS ...

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
34. If I gotta,,,,
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:15 AM
Jul 2019

pick the type of fascism i have to live in ,,,, guess I would take the Antifa over Trump Fascism.

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