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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:41 PM Jul 2019

Pelosi announces resolution condemning Trump for racist tweets

Source: Politico


By HEATHER CAYGLE 07/15/2019 12:34 PM EDT

House Democrats are drafting a resolution to condemn President Donald Trump’s racist tweets against Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and other high-profile freshman congresswomen.

“This weekend, the President went beyond his own low standards using disgraceful language about Members of Congress,” Speaker Nancy Pelosi wrote in a letter to House Democrats announcing the party's plans.

"This morning, the President doubled down on his attacks on our four colleagues suggesting they apologize to him," she added. "Let me be clear, our Caucus will continue to forcefully respond to these disgusting attacks.”

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Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/15/pelosi-announces-resolution-condemning-trump-for-racist-tweets-1415889

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Pelosi announces resolution condemning Trump for racist tweets (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2019 OP
Yeah, that ought to shut trump up, good and proper. Paladin Jul 2019 #1
The target of this resolution are the Republican members of the House RAB910 Jul 2019 #6
Aren't the R's in Congress already on record of supporting him by their absolute silence? nt in2herbs Jul 2019 #29
The distinction is actually really important metalbot Jul 2019 #41
yep....a clever move dixiegrrrrl Jul 2019 #49
As if their voters would give a single, solitary shit if they DID oppose it . . . hatrack Jul 2019 #56
So you believe the majority of Americans are racist? RAB910 Jul 2019 #59
No, but it's likely 40% or north of there . . . hatrack Jul 2019 #60
So that means there are 60% who wouldn't approve of their representative supporting Trump's racism RAB910 Jul 2019 #63
OH MY GOD, PALADIN DENVERPOPS Jul 2019 #31
That's not the goal of the process. LanternWaste Jul 2019 #33
"Will continue to forcefully RESPOND".....FORCEFULLY......... DENVERPOPS Jul 2019 #34
Yup. If that supposed to be a response, it was pathetic and embarrassing... Magoo48 Jul 2019 #40
unreal isn't it questionseverything Jul 2019 #51
I'm sure that this time a strongly worded letter will work ripcord Jul 2019 #2
Strongly worded? Bettie Jul 2019 #37
Trump will not even notice he has unified the Democratic Party. gordianot Jul 2019 #3
Everytime the House Democrats are about avebury Jul 2019 #32
It's something. maxsolomon Jul 2019 #4
I just... BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #5
How are so many people missing the point of this tactic RAB910 Jul 2019 #7
They're already on record brutus smith Jul 2019 #8
"They"? Who is "They"? proActivist Jul 2019 #20
Yep. And we picked up 40 seats last election. NYC Liberal Jul 2019 #27
They are not on record. They will be on record shortly. Politicub Jul 2019 #25
+1 melman Jul 2019 #36
Agreed. n/t area51 Jul 2019 #58
First Amendment defense and their voters won't care anyway BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #10
but a lot of them would rather not have to talk about it at all stopdiggin Jul 2019 #12
And what about Omar, and that nasty name Tlaib called our President, they'll say that too BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #14
disagree, there are persuadables stopdiggin Jul 2019 #18
We'll see...empathy matters but a lot of people are looking for a candidate who feels their pain BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #19
You're right. lunatica Jul 2019 #28
Getting them on Record is what counts. Wellstone ruled Jul 2019 #11
Never let logic get in the way of a good Pelosi bashing mcar Jul 2019 #23
So this is his re-election game plan. Joe Nation Jul 2019 #9
"Maybe this world is another planet's hell." TryLogic Jul 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jul 2019 #30
Any jobs bills in the works? Auggie Jul 2019 #13
Here are all the bills the House Democrats have passed this term mcar Jul 2019 #24
Yes. Strong disapproval . . . Richard D Jul 2019 #16
Good. Put Republicans on the record. They either condemn it or support it. CaptainTruth Jul 2019 #17
YES! That's EXACTLY the response needed. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #21
Yes! mcar Jul 2019 #22
It's a good move, a piece of ammunition that can be used in contested races. n/t Chemisse Jul 2019 #45
Or the Republicans Everyman Jackal Jul 2019 #26
Then they will have to explain that cowardly act! n/t Chemisse Jul 2019 #46
They will say that Nanci Pelosi invited them out to lunch Everyman Jackal Jul 2019 #47
But it's not 'their people' who matter. Chemisse Jul 2019 #57
You are right Everyman Jackal Jul 2019 #61
Throw in a few dismissive hand claps and Trump will probably resign. jalan48 Jul 2019 #35
Awww, shitler wants an apology. Mc Mike Jul 2019 #38
do it now ..... IMPEACH HIM trueblue2007 Jul 2019 #39
Big K&r! Politicub Jul 2019 #42
Calm down folks, this isn't a bad thing Bradical79 Jul 2019 #43
Ooo...strongly worded Words I am sure trump is quivering..meaningless beachbum bob Jul 2019 #44
FINALLY!! ProfessionalLeft Jul 2019 #48
We'd actually like to hear: It's time to impeach this President. YOHABLO Jul 2019 #50
+ infinity ProfessionalLeft Jul 2019 #52
Trump made a point of telling them to "go back" to their country, and doubled down on that this trev Jul 2019 #53
This is a grand move... Mike Nelson Jul 2019 #54
That'll show him! orangecrush Jul 2019 #55
Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #62

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
1. Yeah, that ought to shut trump up, good and proper.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:48 PM
Jul 2019

Who needs any movement on impeachment, when the awesome might of a House resolution can be unleashed?

That laughter you hear is coming from the White House.

RAB910

(3,487 posts)
6. The target of this resolution are the Republican members of the House
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jul 2019

they will be forced to go on record supporting or condemning racism and Trump

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
41. The distinction is actually really important
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 04:48 PM
Jul 2019

There's a BIG difference between failing to condemn something and voting against a resolution condemning something.

hatrack

(59,574 posts)
56. As if their voters would give a single, solitary shit if they DID oppose it . . .
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:38 PM
Jul 2019

Careful with that down pillow, Nancy! Somebody might get gently patted with it!

RAB910

(3,487 posts)
63. So that means there are 60% who wouldn't approve of their representative supporting Trump's racism
Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:28 AM
Jul 2019

DENVERPOPS

(8,789 posts)
31. OH MY GOD, PALADIN
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:38 PM
Jul 2019

A RESOLUTION !!!!!!!!!!!, NOW WE'RE COOKING.......LOL

WASF

Start learning how to speak Russian............

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
33. That's not the goal of the process.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jul 2019

But I get it... any excuse is a good excuse to allege she's ineffective.

DENVERPOPS

(8,789 posts)
34. "Will continue to forcefully RESPOND".....FORCEFULLY.........
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:03 PM
Jul 2019

AND, don't forget, just like many other Uber Rich Democrat Congress members and uber rich Democrat senate members, she and her husband just got a WHOPPING huge ass tax cut thx to Trump and the Repubs..........

Money talks, and bullshit walks Nancy & cronies.........

WASF

Bettie

(16,071 posts)
37. Strongly worded?
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:19 PM
Jul 2019

Remember, civility above all.

Perhaps a letter expressing how disappointing it is that he would use such words.

gordianot

(15,233 posts)
3. Trump will not even notice he has unified the Democratic Party.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jul 2019

That humans can have social interaction and common cause is beyond his understanding.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
32. Everytime the House Democrats are about
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:39 PM
Jul 2019

to implode, Trump comes along and says something that ultimately brings the Dems back together again. If he had half of a functioning brain cell he would learn to keep his mouth shut.

maxsolomon

(33,244 posts)
4. It's something.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jul 2019

A strongly worded resolution, approved on a strict party-line vote.

An Impeachment Inquiry would speak louder.

RAB910

(3,487 posts)
7. How are so many people missing the point of this tactic
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:56 PM
Jul 2019

This isn't about hurting Trump. This is about hurting Republicans in the House as they will now have to go on record supporting or condemning racism and Trump

 

proActivist

(75 posts)
20. "They"? Who is "They"?
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:11 PM
Jul 2019

This puts individual members (as opposed to "them" in general) on the record and can be used against them in the upcoming or a future election.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
27. Yep. And we picked up 40 seats last election.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:27 PM
Jul 2019

So it’s not as though these people are undefeatable. Trump’s core base is only about 30% of voters. The people in the middle can be persuaded.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
25. They are not on record. They will be on record shortly.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:25 PM
Jul 2019

And they will pay dearly in swing districts in the next election cycle.

Welcome to DU.

BeyondGeography

(39,345 posts)
10. First Amendment defense and their voters won't care anyway
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:03 PM
Jul 2019

“While I condemn racism in all its forms I will also defend the American God-given right to freedom of expression and anything that would infringe on it.” Blah blah blah.

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
12. but a lot of them would rather not have to talk about it at all
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:15 PM
Jul 2019

it doesn't look good at home, and they know it.
if you don't want to play the political game, that's fine. leave it to someone who can.

BeyondGeography

(39,345 posts)
14. And what about Omar, and that nasty name Tlaib called our President, they'll say that too
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:29 PM
Jul 2019

The number of persuadables out there isn’t huge and this isn’t the kind of issue that moves them. I’m not seeing a political gold mine for us here.

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
18. disagree, there are persuadables
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:58 PM
Jul 2019

I read the political landscape differently. I think there are voters out there that are nominally OK with policy (the economy) -- and still VERY uncomfortable with blatant racism. It's NOT who they think they are. So every time you can show them, in stark black and white, what a swine the president really is ... It does have an impact. And I'd be willing to bet you see a lot of representatives (when pressed) standing up there saying, "cannot agree", "doesn't represent", "not what our country .." They want to distance themselves from this crap. And they would prefer not to have their noses rubbed in it.

BeyondGeography

(39,345 posts)
19. We'll see...empathy matters but a lot of people are looking for a candidate who feels their pain
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:03 PM
Jul 2019

not caring so much about others.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
28. You're right.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:28 PM
Jul 2019

The historic value of what members of Congress do always comes into play sooner or later. There are plenty of examples. Right now we’re in the middle of one example with Biden on two fronts. he’s being forced back on his heels over his treatment of Anita Hill decades ago and of his co-operative behavior towards racist Congressmen, also decades ago. Yet it’s pretty much understood that in general he isn’t a sexist or a racist, but past actions are now hounding him.

Public opinions and mores change over time. Karmic adjustments always catch up sooner or later, and something that was acceptable back in the day doesn’t always make it acceptable today.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Getting them on Record is what counts.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:03 PM
Jul 2019

The Local Pol's back home hate to see these types of measures see the light of day. The Squaring of the Circle is now beginning.

What the hell is that Presser all about that is live on the Tube? Sounds like another Racist Rant.

Joe Nation

(962 posts)
9. So this is his re-election game plan.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:00 PM
Jul 2019

I will be telling to see how many Americans will support this overt racist prick. My guess is that many, many Americans will stand by this POC.

TryLogic

(1,722 posts)
15. "Maybe this world is another planet's hell."
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:36 PM
Jul 2019

You know, Trump's election was God's choice, otherwise it would not have happened (according to many religious folks -- because God is all powerful). So, perhaps Trump was actually sent by God to create hell right here. You know, for convenience.

I'm waiting for Trump to claim he is God's all time favorite president.

Response to TryLogic (Reply #15)

Auggie

(31,133 posts)
13. Any jobs bills in the works?
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:23 PM
Jul 2019

Condemn the tweets -- fine. But if you want votes from swing states, show them better jobs.

Richard D

(8,741 posts)
16. Yes. Strong disapproval . . .
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jul 2019

. . . I just can't imagine it being anything but effective and Trump will turn a new leaf and never say a racist thing again.

 

Everyman Jackal

(271 posts)
47. They will say that Nanci Pelosi invited them out to lunch
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:18 PM
Jul 2019

but when she didn't show up they figured she would show up to pay the bill. And the deplorables will believe them. Or they will say they were at one of the camps baking cookies for the children. Whatever they say their people will believe them.

Chemisse

(30,803 posts)
57. But it's not 'their people' who matter.
Tue Jul 16, 2019, 06:07 AM
Jul 2019

Forget the kool-aid drinkers.

It's the swing voters; it's the regretful Trump voters; it's those Republican voters who are looking at all this in horror and wondering if there is an alternative.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
43. Calm down folks, this isn't a bad thing
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 05:13 PM
Jul 2019

I'm not a Pelosi fan, and this obviously isn't the only thing that should be done, but this is something that needs done as part of any response. It gets names of Republicans on official record as supporting or condemning Trump's racist meltdown.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
44. Ooo...strongly worded Words I am sure trump is quivering..meaningless
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 06:25 PM
Jul 2019

Start impeachment on Barr,
Draw a fricken line or pelosi will lead democrats to destruction in 2020

 

ProfessionalLeft

(83 posts)
48. FINALLY!!
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:50 PM
Jul 2019

We've finally taken some meaningful action to remove the threat to democracy from office <rolls eyes>

trev

(1,480 posts)
53. Trump made a point of telling them to "go back" to their country, and doubled down on that this
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:52 PM
Jul 2019

morning. "We will not allow them to disparage this country." (Nobody disparaged the US; they disparaged him.) "I will pay their way."

This is more than just racism. It goes further than that.

IMO, Trump is priming the pump for police action against liberals.

Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
54. This is a grand move...
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:04 PM
Jul 2019

… she would impeach Crooked Donald if she could. This might move it closer...

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