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appalachiablue

(41,052 posts)
Thu Jul 4, 2019, 11:09 AM Jul 2019

Putin, After Three Days, Says Fire- Hit Russian Submarine Was Nuclear- Powered

Source: Reuters

5 hrs. ago. MOSCOW, July 4 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin disclosed on Thursday for the first time that a secret military submarine hit by a fatal fire three days ago was nuclear-powered, prompting Russia's defense minister to assure him its reactor had been safely contained.

Russian officials have faced accusations of trying to cover up the full details of the accident that killed 14 sailors as they were carrying out what the defense ministry called a survey of the sea floor near the Arctic.

Moscow's slow release of information about the incident has drawn comparisons with the opaque way the Soviet Union handled the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear power station disaster, and another deadly submarine accident -- the 2000 sinking of the nuclear-powered Kursk, which claimed 118 lives.

Russia, which says the details of the submarine involved in the latest accident are classified, said the fire took place on Monday, although it was only officially disclosed late on Tuesday. -More...

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-after-three-days-says-fire-hit-russian-submarine-was-nuclear-powered/ar-AADPQcP?ocid=HPCOMMDHP15



Per Strand, a director at the Norwegian Radiation and Nuclear Safety Authority was asked by Reuters if he had been informed that the submarine was nuclear-powered. "We understand that they brought the situation under control quickly, under difficult conditions, and there was, as such, no nuclear incident that they were obligated to tell us about," he said. "Still, we would have been happy to have been informed of such incidents," he added.

TOP-SECRET SUBMARINE: Shoigu, a close Putin ally, told the Russian leader that the secretive submarine, which authorities said had been operating in the Barents Sea area, could and would be fully repaired.



President Putin met with Sergei Shoigu, Defence Minister.
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Putin, After Three Days, Says Fire- Hit Russian Submarine Was Nuclear- Powered (Original Post) appalachiablue Jul 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #1
You just watch. MicaelS Jul 2019 #2
And Trump will agree. SergeStorms Jul 2019 #9
Rumors on the tech sites are that it is a fiber/cable cutting sub meant to cut the cables LiberalArkie Jul 2019 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #6
Things we do even better than they could ever hope to do. Do not fear the ... marble falls Jul 2019 #12
Oh please, try to convince us that all is OK with the sub and it's reactor. Firestorm49 Jul 2019 #4
Liars. yardwork Jul 2019 #5
Interesting article LiberalArkie Jul 2019 #7
Pooty-poot seems determined Cirque du So-What Jul 2019 #8
Mucking with underwater cables isn't just Russian thing Sapient Donkey Jul 2019 #10
We run circles around the Russian below surface. We've pulled off the tapping ... marble falls Jul 2019 #13
Not just Chernobyl in the Arctic;Putin wants no attn on his master plan for the Arctic stuffmatters Jul 2019 #11

Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

SergeStorms

(18,886 posts)
9. And Trump will agree.
Thu Jul 4, 2019, 01:08 PM
Jul 2019

In his haste to repay Putin for (obviously) Democrat's egregious act of war in destroying the Sub, Trump will open up our national archives to give Putin whatever U.S. State Secrets he hasn't already given him.

Just in case......

LiberalArkie

(15,686 posts)
3. Rumors on the tech sites are that it is a fiber/cable cutting sub meant to cut the cables
Thu Jul 4, 2019, 11:20 AM
Jul 2019

in very deep areas that are difficult and take a long time to repair.

Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #3)

marble falls

(56,358 posts)
12. Things we do even better than they could ever hope to do. Do not fear the ...
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 10:21 AM
Jul 2019

bear at sea. We would wipe the sea floor with him.

Firestorm49

(4,002 posts)
4. Oh please, try to convince us that all is OK with the sub and it's reactor.
Thu Jul 4, 2019, 11:23 AM
Jul 2019

The world has learned to trust Putin’s word Like Trump’s. Remember Chernobyl?

Cirque du So-What

(25,812 posts)
8. Pooty-poot seems determined
Thu Jul 4, 2019, 11:37 AM
Jul 2019

to ensure Russia's status as pariah among nations. Their so!e purpose is to sow chaos and divisiveness worldwide, and I remain convinced that this sub was in that location to muck with undersea cables. A pox on Putin and all who support his goals.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
10. Mucking with underwater cables isn't just Russian thing
Thu Jul 4, 2019, 01:16 PM
Jul 2019

Plenty of documents of us doing it during the cold war, and now the USS Jimmy Carter can likely do it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seawolf-class_submarine#Variants

I am sure China and every other major country in the world has similar capabilities and has used them at some point. I can't even begin to think of how that can be defended against on physical level. Obviously strong encryption can help with protecting information, but that doesn't prevent disruption by physically severing the links.

marble falls

(56,358 posts)
13. We run circles around the Russian below surface. We've pulled off the tapping ...
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 10:24 AM
Jul 2019

Russian military and intelligence cables that went off for years without getting caught.

Thankyou for helping to point this out.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
11. Not just Chernobyl in the Arctic;Putin wants no attn on his master plan for the Arctic
Thu Jul 4, 2019, 04:56 PM
Jul 2019

Last edited Fri Jul 5, 2019, 04:04 PM - Edit history (1)

When you think of it, every piece of Putin's push for world power & wealth is there: trillions in oil and minerals, ginormous water source,and of course, as the temperature warms & ice melts,ultimately a northern route for Russia to the West.
Petrofascism on steroids up there...

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