U.S. News In Historic First, Trump Crosses Into North Korea in Meeting With Kim

[BigmanPigman]

Source: Haartetz

U.S. President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un met at the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) between the two Koreas on Sunday, raising hopes for a revival of stalled nuclear talks.

Trump arrived in Seoul late on Saturday for talks with South Korean President Moon Jae-in after attending a Group of 20 summit in Osaka, Japan, during which he made a surprise, spur-of-the-moment offer to meet Kim.

Trump arrived at the DMZ on Sunday, accompanied by Moon. They visited a guard post in the northernmost part of the South Korean side of the DMZ, looking into the North, where Trump will speak with U.S. and South Korean servicemen.

Moon, who will accompany Trump on the visit to the heavily fortified border, said that a third summit between the United States and North Korea would depend on what happened on Sunday. Moon said he and Trump agreed on the significance of "simultaneous, parallel" implementation of an agreement Trump and Kim reached at their first summit in Singapore last year.

Read more: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-headed-for-demilitarized-zone-meeting-with-north-korea-s-kim-1.7422977

[RHMerriman]

1. Can we ask the South Koreans to not let him back in?

Can we ask the South Koreans to not let him back in?

Pretty please?

[oldsoftie]

16. I knew this would be the first post!

[RHMerriman]

42. Sometimes the muse hits...

Sometimes the muse hits...

[olegramps]

24. It is a reenactment of Hitler meets Mussolini

One an a moral what-a-be tyrant and the other a blood thirsty soulless first class bastard.

[Sneederbunk]

33. Kim may be insane but not that insane.

[Polybius]

34. I was thinking "Can the North Koreans not let him back!"

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

2. Mission Accomplished.

Fat Donnie is working his way through his checklist toward getting a Nobel Prize.

Of course, one Nobel laureate, President Carter, has already deemed Trump an illegitimate president, so that might put a damper on it

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. Yup, tRump is giving Kim the legitimacy he craves.

All US Presidents could have done the same but purposely didn't for good reason: The United States does not generally support brutal dictators (there have been too many exceptions).

tRump is so stupid he gives away concessions currying favor with the dictators he so admires.

[EleanorR]

27. He's contributed to the legitimacy and rise of Putin, Kim, Bolsonaro, and MBS

It's not hard to see where his loyalties and admirations lie.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. Not to forget Duterte (Phillipines) and Erdogan (Turkey)

[EleanorR]

30. We are no longer allied with Democracies

And the Radical Right pushes the US closer toward the policies of our new authoritarian buddies by the day.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

3. Wow, now that's what I call an ultimate campaign stop.

.......

Another one on the taxpayer's dime......

I wonder if he carried along a case of his MAGA red hats for the show?......

[BigmanPigman]

5. Yep, a whole lot of nothing.

Photo op that costs us how much $$$?

[Judi Lynn]

4. Just saw a video of the on MSNBC.He waddled around the place as if he's King of the Universe.

It was completely embarrassing seeing those people acting so indulgent.

Recalling someone here has a photo of his big backside from the visit. I just saw it, and it looks as if he has a giant city's phone book in the back of his pants.

Oh, god, they keep re-running it, now. He keeps strolling slowly, casually to the neutral area, taking far too much time, maybe envisioning it a Great Moment In History, (pfffffft.) and Kim just walked rapidly, looking much more like a human being, to shake hands.

[BigmanPigman]

6. I saw the picture os his fat ass too.

I thought it looked like he was wearing a bullet proof pair of boxers. Is he trying to protect his goodies for Melanie?

Right now he is putting the press down again!

BORING! Same old, same old BS.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Depends

Hyuuge Depends

[pazzyanne]

18. While tRump is waddling around with Kim,

his new press secretary is being ruffed up be North Korean security. Wonder if he will address this with lover boy, Kim . Stephanie Grisham, the first lady's spokes person and new WH press secretary was injured while performing her new duties. Any bets on whether or not tRump will "talk" to Kim about this?

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

36. New video of Fat Donnie and Fat Kim walking together.

[nitpicker]

7. Photo op

So how much did THIS cost the taxpayers?

[nitpicker]

8. (Update) Trump invites Kim Jong-un to visit US after stepping into North Korea - as it happened

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/jun/30/trump-arrives-at-demilitarised-zone-to-meet-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-live

Trump invites Kim Jong-un to visit US after stepping into North Korea – as it happened

(snip)
41m ago
09:49

Summary

Donald Trump has invited Kim Jong-un to visit the US during talks at Korean peninsula’s demilitarised zone after he became the first American president to step onto North Korean soil.

The meeting was organised yesterday, both leaders confirmed, after Trump tweeted Kim Jong-un suggesting they meet and “say Hello(?)!” while Trump was in the region for the G20 summit in Osaka.

Trump travelled to the DMZ with South Korean leader Moon Jae-in, while the three had an hour-long tri-lateral meeting at Peace House.
(snip)

Trump announced that new teams would be set up by the three parties to the negotiations. Asked by journalists if he believed that North Korea’s previous negotiators were still alive, he replied: “I think so.”

Updated at 9.55am BST
(snip)

49m ago
09:40

With the dust settling on panmunjom, there’s time now to pick up on some of the other subplots and details, in particular the cast-list of who else was present.

According to Anna Fifield, Beijing bureau chief for the Washington Post, those on the sidelines for the handshake included: Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, the US conservative commentator and broadcaster Tucker Carlson, North Korean foreign minister Ri Yong Ho and his deputy Choe Song Hui, as well as the North Korean singer and Hyon Song Wol.
(snip)

[nitpicker]

9. Further down in the Guardian thread

(snip)

2h ago
08:29

Devastating analysis from Victor Cha, a professor at Georgetown University, who calls this “reality TV” and “faked diplomacy” that gives US, South Korea and North Korea “trivial domestic kudos while legitimizing the [human rights] abusing/nuke regime”.
(snip)

[Achilleaze]

12. legitimizing bin salman, too, along with putin and bolsonaro

a rogue's gallery of deeply evil a-holes.

[BigmanPigman]

10. TUCKER CARLSON...

[Historic NY]

25. Hows old Kim going to get that green train here?

[videohead5]

11. What the F is going on?

Ronald Reagan would have never done this. The world has turned upside down. Kim has American blood on his hands but Trump does not care and wants his photo op. I just don't see Kim ever giving up his nukes. The Trump cult just loves this but if Obama had done it they would be wanting him executed for treason. The GOP has lost all self respect.

[metalbot]

23. Flip the switch on that narrative

"... if Obama had done it they would be wanting him executed for treason."

If Obama had done this, DU would be gushing about how finally we had a president who was willing to talk and solve problems rather than continue the failed policies of the previous 50+ years.

I'm not suggesting that Trump is going to solve the N Korea issue, or that this is anything more than a photo-op. I agree that Kim isn't going to give up his nuclear program. However, if Trump makes _any_ progress in normalizing or making better our relations with North Korea, that's substantially more progress than any previous president of either party. I'll happily give him credit for that if he can pull it off. The rest of his presidency is a disaster, but I'm not going to criticize "let's try something different" with North Korea, because what we've been doing is clearly not working.

[MoonchildCA]

31. Maybe we would have praised Obama, but...

The dynamics of that meeting would have been entirely different.

All Kim has to do is to tell Trump how great he is, how wonderful his brain, how beautiful his flaxen hair, how he’s the best president evah. All Trump needs is praise and a few false promises. He believes he has all of Kim’s admiration and respect. They’re buds now—of course he can get a deal.

He, and we, are being played the fools.

[dawg day]

32. I suspect that "falling in love" with Kim isn't going to solve any problems

Now Kim knows he can do anything short of blowing up Tokyo and Trump will gush over him.

This isn't progress. Any president in the past could have gushed over Kim, but giving power to this dictator -- treating him as an equal or even more-- just emboldens him.

Nothing that is done just to bloat Trump's ego is likely to end well-- because it has nothing to do with bettering the world or the country. It's just about making him feel potent, and giving his plastic daughter another showcase for her shiny hair.

[EleanorR]

35. Normalizing a murderous dictator is not advancing diplomacy

It's giving Kim exactly what he wants and disposing of any leverage we may have had for change. And trump suggesting to Japan that he may want to end the US/Japan defense agreement before kissing Kim's ass is especially heinous.

Here's trump telling us how he really feels.

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[videohead5]

38. No

I did not want Obama talking to Kim unless a deal had already been negotiated and was ready to sign. I'm not much on murderous dictators.

[Turin_C3PO]

44. We don't need to "normalize" relations

with a brutal despot who puts his own people in concentration camps. North Korea should continue to be treated like a pariah until they shape up.

[gademocrat7]

13. Another disgusting display of stupidity.

The lack of decorum, intelligence and understanding of dealing with a brutal dictator is appalling.

[jpak]

14. So - how many NK nukes got dismantled?

I know.

None.

[hlthe2b]

15. Otto Warmbier, Otto Warmbier, Otto Warmbier

He won't recognize the horror that killed an American citizen--(however naive' he certainly was)...

I will on behalf of his grieving parents.

[FM123]

22. I was just thinking the same thing.

How Otto's parents hearts must be breaking. Again.

[pazzyanne]

17. Too bad Kim did not keep him!

[Hugin]

19. He had to do something to fade the picture of drowned children washing up on the shores of the US.

So, he visited a like-minded murderer.

[dawg day]

26. "Historic First: The president humiliates the US by paying homage to a tinhorn dictator."

No other president ever went to NK because it's a dictatorship run by a murderer who starves his people and contributes nothing to the world.

It is not "historic" that Trump is living out his fangirl fantasy of bowing down to three dictators in one week.

[SylviaD]

28. fuck dump

I dont want to hear about how he "made history" when I turn on MSNBC

fuck kim too for playing along with Dump

[The Liberal Lion]

37. Big deal! Rodman did it first

[wsbradshaw]

39. He's just mad

Putin just mad and embarrassed that he's screwed Russia up so bad nobody wants to immigrate there.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

40. The Warmbiers must be so proud. NT

[mahatmakanejeeves]

41. Tucker Carlson justifies KJU's murderous regime:

CockedAndLoadedHat Retweeted

Tucker Carlson justifies KJU's murderous regime: "You've got to be honest about what it means to lead a country, it means killing people. A lot of countries commit atrocities, including our allies." Carlson adds, 'it's silly and stupid to point out KJU is 'so mean''

Link to tweet

[BigmanPigman]

43. Did you read David Corn's tweet?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212230497

Last night I read that Fucker Carlson was with the tRump entourage I couldn't believe it at first, why was Hannity left out?