Alabama: pregnant woman shot in stomach is charged in fetus's death

[FiveGoodMen]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Yonnie3 (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: The Guardian

A pregnant woman from Alabama has been charged with manslaughter after she was shot in the stomach during an argument, killing the fetus.

Marshae Jones was reportedly five months pregnant when she was shot by another woman in December outside a shop in Pleasant Grove, near Birmingham.

On Wednesday, Jones, 27, was indicted by a Jefferson county grand jury on a manslaughter charge and is expected to be held in Jefferson county Jail on a $50,000 bond, while the woman accused of shooting her walked free, reported AL.com.

The case has raised alarm among pro-choice groups who say it is shocking evidence of how the state’s restrictive abortion laws are now being used against pregnant women.


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/27/alabama-pregnant-woman-shot-manslaughter-charge-marshae-jones

[Honeycombe8]

1. Oh, my. This is such a twisted view of things. I don't even understand it. nt

[ck4829]

2. A black woman is going to be guinea pig #1 for right wing social policy, who could have guessed?

[gtar100]

3. The woman who was shot was charged?

That makes no sense, except for the fact it happened in Alabama. Insane.

[ck4829]

4. Alabama

[sarisataka]

5. The grand jury determined

The other woman fired in self-defense. The woman who was shot had initiated the fight

[rickyhall]

7. Did the VICTIM, who was charged, even have a gun?

So nowadays it ok to shoot someone for pissing you off?

Typical Repug: Blame the victim

[The Mouth]

10. If you attack someone

and they shoot you in self defense, you aren't considered 'the victim'. That's the law; it has nothing to do with you being armed, or not. If I'm carrying a firearm (I don't) and am attacked by someone, and I shoot them, they are not 'the victim'. People who don't like this really should not start fights.

[sarisataka]

12. I have not yet seen

A description of the fight that indicated why it escalated to the level of using lethal force.

From what I have read in the many threads on this is the woman who was shot started a fight and continued to attack the other woman as a third party tried to separate them. The woman who was attacked then fired a gun. The rest of the details have not been made clear.

Usually the party that initiates a fight is deemed the assailant and the other party is the victim. This terminology continues even if the assailant ends up getting the worst of the encounter.

[The Mouth]

9. Don't confuse anyone with real facts.

The law pretty much states that if you attack someone first, you are responsible for any and all injuries to *ALL* parties resulting from whatever happens as a result. It would have been the same (in the legal sense) if a patron on the next barstool over got shot instead: the instigator is considered the person at fault.

[nini]

6. What the holy hell?

I have no words for what the hell is going on anymore

[riversedge]

8. With these so-called Christian anti-abortion groups on the rise, I fear it will only get worse. damn

......“Marshae Jones was indicted for manslaughter for losing a pregnancy after being shot in the abdomen FIVE times. Her shooter remains free,” wrote Alabama-based abortion group the Yellowhammer Fund on Twitter.

[Freddie]

11. Because she didn't duck fast enough?

Wake me up when this country returns to normal. I’m 62, I may never see it.

[Yonnie3]

13. Locking as a Duplicate post

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142334260 was posted this morning. Please continue discussion there.