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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 03:03 PM Jun 2019

Democratic leader concedes on Oregon climate bill after Republican walkout

Source: The Hill

The Democratic leader of Oregon's state Senate on Tuesday said that a sweeping climate bill did not have votes needed to pass after Republican Senators walked out to avoid the vote.

"What I'm about to say I say of my own free will. No one has told me to say this," Senate President Peter Courtney (D) said Tuesday.

"HB 2020 does not have the votes on the Senate floor. That will not change."

Sen. President Peter Courtney to Republicans: We do not have the votes for the cap-and-trade bill. #orleg #orpol pic.twitter.com/o32P9qW5nY
— Lauren Dake (@LaurenDake) June 25, 2019

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/450268-democratic-leader-concedes-on-oregon-climate-bill-after-republican

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Democratic leader concedes on Oregon climate bill after Republican walkout (Original Post) demmiblue Jun 2019 OP
if repubs could block the bill there was no reason for them to walk out nt msongs Jun 2019 #1
Thread: demmiblue Jun 2019 #2
Tell the repugs anything to get them back, then lock the doors MarcA Jun 2019 #13
The Legislature ends June 30. former9thward Jun 2019 #17
Thank you. Thought there might be the possibility of a special session. n/t MarcA Jun 2019 #18
And some really think you can work with repugs even more MarcA Jun 2019 #3
Nice win for the Bundy militia groups. old guy Jun 2019 #4
hem AllaN01Bear Jun 2019 #5
the Democrats did do this once (except for calling for armed insurrection) LanternWaste Jun 2019 #8
Wisconsin state democrats tried it too, it failed. Archae Jun 2019 #9
So, threatening to kill state troopers works for GOP terrorists. Noted. deminks Jun 2019 #6
Seems to... charliea Jun 2019 #11
They Gave Up Too Soon..... global1 Jun 2019 #7
+1 Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #14
A government that does not work is a government that is to be discarded, The Liberal Lion Jun 2019 #10
The differences are irreconcilable. Lonestarblue Jun 2019 #12
My feelings for some time now.... paleotn Jun 2019 #15
Cowardice... Progressive Jones Jun 2019 #16

demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
2. Thread:
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 03:10 PM
Jun 2019


Sen. President Peter Courtney to Republicans: We do not have the votes for the cap-and-trade bill. #orleg #orpol

Young climate activists in the Senate gallery get up and turn their backs as Sen. Courtney announces the cap-and-trade bill is likely dead. #orleg



Leaving the Senate floor, senators were visibly upset. Sen. Majority Leader Ginny Burdick, D-Portland, said there was "no deal that I know of." And Sen. Steiner Hayward said it was clear Courtney was broadcasting a msg to the Republicans in hiding. #orleg #orpol

Senators weren't the only angry ones. The young climate activists came hauling down the stairs from the Senate chamber. "They have the votes. They just don't have the courage," Shilpa Joshi said. "They are jeopardizing our future." #orleg #orpol

Sen. Tim Knopp, R-Bend, who is presumably still in Idaho: “We need clarification. What does that mean? Does it mean it’s dead until the 2020 session? Is the governor going to take it up in a special session? We need more clarification." #orleg #orpol

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
13. Tell the repugs anything to get them back, then lock the doors
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 04:52 PM
Jun 2019

and call the vote. Doesn't matter what repugs would think.
As for the pearl clutchers, bothsiderists and chuckies of the world;
this is the new reality created by repugs, so take your "concerns"
and take a long walk off a short pier.

AllaN01Bear

(18,154 posts)
5. hem
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 03:13 PM
Jun 2019

2 things need to happen here .
1: new elections emideatly as this is a derliction of duty.
2: put in more democrats . this was from a friend who is not part of the extreme right wing fringe .( i call them the sane repugs ) if the dems did this , ohm myyyy. a hew and cry would go out.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. the Democrats did do this once (except for calling for armed insurrection)
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 03:31 PM
Jun 2019

About fifteen years ago, a group of twelve or so Texas Democrats traveled to Oklahoma to avoid a quorum in Austin to ensure a redistricting bill didn't make it to the floor for a vote.

A hew and cry did go out... Tom DeLay (remember that little toad?) asked US Marshals and Homeland Security to find and arrest them.

Archae

(46,317 posts)
9. Wisconsin state democrats tried it too, it failed.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 03:34 PM
Jun 2019

Scott Walker got his way with his anti-union bill.

charliea

(260 posts)
11. Seems to...
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 04:14 PM
Jun 2019

The guy you saw on the news saying something like: Better send bachelors, is my state senator here in Oregon. I sent him this this morning:

Sadly I am a constituent of yours. I wonder how I could have gotten such a belligerent slacker as you to represent me in such a demanding position. Someone who spouts threats to law enforcement and refuses to do your job, or even show up for work.

Show up for work, do your job. A lot of other work remains to be done.

<my name removed>

PS. Almost forgot, you're a feckless man. According to news reports the Republican caucus promised last month that there would be no more walkouts. Can't even keep your word...


That was before I heard the Senate majority leader capitulate, damn, I would have tried to raise the fine for not showing up to $10000 a day.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
10. A government that does not work is a government that is to be discarded,
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 03:50 PM
Jun 2019

and replaced immediately with one that does.
My words are clear. I no longer have faith in the various governing bodies within the United States and I am no longer willing to call those supporting the GOP fellow countrymen and countrywomen. Our differences have become, to put it mildly, irreconcilable.

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
12. The differences are irreconcilable.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 04:42 PM
Jun 2019

We have reached a state in this country where neither side has any respect for the other. I see no way to bridge this gap because I certainly will not change my mind about what I believe to be the true purpose of government, and I think those on the other side feel the same. Some people have proposed a split into two countries, but I think the complications of trying to divide the country would be overwhelming.

We have become the Divided States of America. I hope younger people have some good ideas about how to get along better because the current situation is lose-lose for everybody.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
15. My feelings for some time now....
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 06:30 PM
Jun 2019

Unless something major changes, I believe a split is inevitable. Putin's dream I'm sure, but our differences predate ole Puuty.

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