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SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 08:18 PM Jun 2019

Almost 300 migrant children removed from Texas facility described as 'appalling'

Source: NBC News

The children who were removed were being held at a border station in Clint, Texas. Some were wearing dirty clothes covered in mucus or even urine, said Elora Mukherjee, the director of the Immigrants’ Rights Clinic at Columbia Law School. Teenage mothers wore clothing stained with breast milk. None of the children had access to soap or toothpaste, she said.

“Almost every child I spoke with had not showered or bathed since they crossed the border — some of them more than three weeks ago,” she said. “There is a stench that emanates from some of the children because they haven’t had an opportunity to put on clean clothes and to take a shower.”

The children have been taken to a tent detention camp also in El Paso, Texas, where they will remain under the custody of Border Patrol until they can be placed with the Department of Health and Human Services, the DHS officials said. The Associated Press first reported on the conditions at the facility.

Frye also said of the children they spoke to, “almost every kid had some sort of illness” or had been sick. She said the team sent a doctor back to the facility after the visit, and six children were ultimately sent to the hospital.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/



No soap and no showers is a sure fire way to spread colds and flu. More horrific details at the link, like a 17 year old wheelchair bound mom recovering from an emergency c-section, her baby sick and listless and both of them covered in dirt with no way to bathe.

Not sure moving these kids from a filthy concrete ice box cage to a sweltering tent city in Texas in late June is an improvement...
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Almost 300 migrant children removed from Texas facility described as 'appalling' (Original Post) SunSeeker Jun 2019 OP
This is fascism SHRED Jun 2019 #1
And a crime against humanity. nt SunSeeker Jun 2019 #2
Yep SHRED Jun 2019 #4
Yes, it is. n/t susanna Jun 2019 #32
This is sadism (n/t) Retrograde Jun 2019 #23
When the Orange Blob leaves, we'll need an Argentina style truth commission. sandensea Jun 2019 #3
CHILD ABUSE. Scream it from the rooftops. Maybe MSM will notice. Evolve Dammit Jun 2019 #5
The MSM has noticed. BonnieJW Jun 2019 #27
And that is great. It's a national disgrace. I am aware of other outlets that say little or enable. Evolve Dammit Jun 2019 #28
Crimes against humanity for which Trump needs to be prosecuted. Lonestarblue Jun 2019 #6
What is the condition/situation of the adults? pangaia Jun 2019 #7
Michael Burgess, R-Tx DeminPennswoods Jun 2019 #8
Pure gaslighting. Trump has DOJ arguing in court that it's ok not to allow baths. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #11
Of course it is DeminPennswoods Jun 2019 #15
Hayes was not good at calling out Burgess' lies; he let him get all his GOP talking points out. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #22
Hayes did call him out, but he sure seemed surprised by Burgess' DeminPennswoods Jun 2019 #24
How are the heavily armed Border Patrol agents procon Jun 2019 #9
They're not even trying. They're making 7 year olds care for 2 year olds. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #12
Why isn't some Int'l Human Rights org (help me out here) not all over this? CurtEastPoint Jun 2019 #10
They are, but have no real power to stop it. But they have been condemning it: SunSeeker Jun 2019 #14
Is this one of the centers that is getting $700/day/child? Frustratedlady Jun 2019 #13
Did these kids ever get soap, toothpaste and toothbrushes???????? Ohioboy Jun 2019 #16
No, none while they were there. Not sure what happened to them after they were removed. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #17
No, but jailed white supremacists all did...go figure. Volaris Jun 2019 #19
Ummmm...where are these kids PARENTS?! Volaris Jun 2019 #18
In separate CBP facilities. Trump is STILL separating families. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #20
This is, at a minimum, negligence, and more probably, intentional torture. Volaris Jun 2019 #21
I admire you. n/t Laelth Jun 2019 #30
It's not quite as Noble as you might think.... Volaris Jun 2019 #31
Couldn't agree more with your last point re ICE/CPB DeminPennswoods Jun 2019 #25
I'm ashamed of my country democrank Jun 2019 #26
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jun 2019 #29

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
3. When the Orange Blob leaves, we'll need an Argentina style truth commission.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 08:32 PM
Jun 2019

And what was their motto?

Nunca Más. Never Again.

Evolve Dammit

(16,733 posts)
5. CHILD ABUSE. Scream it from the rooftops. Maybe MSM will notice.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 08:41 PM
Jun 2019

and just plain human abuse. Not enough for the deplorables. They'll have machine guns at the border and still not be happy. Sick people.

BonnieJW

(2,265 posts)
27. The MSM has noticed.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 10:05 AM
Jun 2019

I hear it on NPR morning and evening. I hear it on every MSNBC show every night. The MSM is reporting on it.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
6. Crimes against humanity for which Trump needs to be prosecuted.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 08:52 PM
Jun 2019

I think I heard that the cost per child per day is over $700 to starve them, not provide basic hygiene needs, and have them sleep outside on dirt or concrete! Put them up at the local Hilton for a fifth of that, and they would be treated far better. Who runs this company that is making millions off taxpayers? This is beyond outrageous. And Trump has the nerve to ask for more money when we know he would divert it to build his wall.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
8. Michael Burgess, R-Tx
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:00 PM
Jun 2019

was on with Chris Hayes and claimed he visited and everything was just fine, everyone being well-cared for.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
15. Of course it is
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jun 2019

Hayes was very frustrated not to get straight answers. It seemed like Burgess lied to the producers about what he intended to say, what he supports or both. No surprise there, either.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
22. Hayes was not good at calling out Burgess' lies; he let him get all his GOP talking points out.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 02:55 AM
Jun 2019

And Burgess never answered a single question. Very disappointed in Hayes. It seems Hayes was afraid if he called Burgess out, he'd never come on his show again. Burgess is one of Chris Hayes' go to GOP talking heads. I see him on the show often. The dude really is a motor mouth who does nothing but spit out GOP talking points, kinda like Kellyanne Conway. I don't know why these shows let them get away with that shit, other than they're desperate for GOP guests so that they appear "balanced," having bought into that false equivalence bullshit.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
24. Hayes did call him out, but he sure seemed surprised by Burgess'
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 06:03 AM
Jun 2019

answers - like he honestly was expecting to have a different conversation. Bless his heart, Chris Hayes does try to have honest discussions and examine other points of view with his guests, but 99% of these Rs simply agree to appear on these shows to get out their talking points, not to have a serious conversation about any issue.

procon

(15,805 posts)
9. How are the heavily armed Border Patrol agents
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:07 PM
Jun 2019

going to nurture and care for babies, toddlers and little children?

Do they put their guns away before diaper changes or bottle feeding? Do they call the kids the same belittling names they use for adults?

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
12. They're not even trying. They're making 7 year olds care for 2 year olds.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:21 PM
Jun 2019

From the article:

“Children who are young themselves are being told by guards they must take care of even younger children,” Mukherjee said, adding that children as young as 7 and 8 were forced to care for 2-year-olds.


SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
14. They are, but have no real power to stop it. But they have been condemning it:
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:26 PM
Jun 2019
U.N. Rights Chief Tells U.S. to Stop Taking Migrant Children From Parents 

The United Nations’ top human rights official on Monday entered the mounting furor over the Trump administration’s policy of separating undocumented immigrant children from their parents, calling for an immediate halt to a practice he condemned as abuse.

United States immigration authorities have detained almost 2,000 children in the past six weeks, which may cause them irreparable harm with lifelong consequences, said Zeid Ra’ad al-Hussein, the United Nations high commissioner for human rights.

He cited an observation by the president of the American Association of Pediatrics that locking the children up separately from their parents constituted “government-sanctioned child abuse.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/world/europe/trump-migrant-children-un.html

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
13. Is this one of the centers that is getting $700/day/child?
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:24 PM
Jun 2019

Time for a review of the books and to file possible charges, if warranted.

Someone is guilty.

This shit didn't just happen.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
17. No, none while they were there. Not sure what happened to them after they were removed.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 10:21 PM
Jun 2019

Apparently they were sent to a tent concentration camp nearby in El Paso.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
19. No, but jailed white supremacists all did...go figure.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 10:35 PM
Jun 2019

This is GITMO on the border.

...I'm not a fan, but credit where it's due, Chris Hedges was right about this....

Bush and Cheney should STILL go to the Hauge....


In OUR NAME, goddammit...

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
18. Ummmm...where are these kids PARENTS?!
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 10:32 PM
Jun 2019

no six year old decided to cross an international border of their own volition

Despite the fact that 300 of these kids were 'cared for', they were 'cared for' after being fucking kidnapped by the federal government.

Let that sit there .

And not for nothing, but if we hadn't raised hell about it in the first place, they likely WOULDNT HAVE BEEN CARED FOR, even to this little extent.

At this point, I want both ICE AND CBP cleaned OUT, from top to bottom, and everyone who wants to keep their jobs can pass a psych eval to make sure they're not an outright psychopath .

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
20. In separate CBP facilities. Trump is STILL separating families.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 10:38 PM
Jun 2019

As the article states:

She said almost all the children had been separated from the adults they crossed the border with — siblings, aunts or grandparents, or even their parents.

“They don’t know where their loved ones are who they crossed the border with,” she said.

Many also had family members already in the United States waiting to take them in, she said.

Federal law requires unaccompanied or separated migrant children be transferred to HHS custody within 72 hours, but some children at the Clint facility had been in Border Patrol custody for weeks, she said.


Volaris

(10,271 posts)
21. This is, at a minimum, negligence, and more probably, intentional torture.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 10:45 PM
Jun 2019

I do some contract work for some federal agencies.

And I'm ready to get myself fired for refusing do do a damn thing for this 'government' at this point.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
31. It's not quite as Noble as you might think....
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 02:22 AM
Jun 2019

I just finished the first part of my 'collegiate(sp)' edumacation, and so can look at Other Options for employment if work pisses me off. But if I can backpack some legit moral outrage on leaving ANYWAY, yeah...I'll do that in this case.

I very much understand what it is to have to choose between doing what's morally right, and getting paid.
Just saying...

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