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appalachiablue

(41,114 posts)
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:19 AM Jun 2019

Armed Militias Pledge To Fight For Fugitive Oregon GOP Lawmakers 'At Any Cost'

Last edited Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:21 AM - Edit history (2)

Source: The Daily Beast

6 hrs. ago. Right-wing militia groups across the Pacific Northwest are mobilizing to prevent Oregon state police from arresting Republican state senators who went into hiding on Thursday in order to prevent climate change legislation from passing.

All eleven of Oregon's Republican state senators are currently on-the-lam, with some leaving for Idaho in an effort to deny the Democrat-controlled state senate a quorum to pass a cap-and-trade bill. In response, Oregon Governor Kate Brown (D), citing a provision in the state constitution that allows the state to "compel" absent lawmakers to attend legislative sessions, dispatched state troopers to bring them back.

One of the lawmakers on the lam, Republican Brian Boquist (R), warned that he would resort to violence rather than return to the state, implying in a local television interview that he would attack law enforcement officers sent to retrieve him. "Send bachelors and come heavily armed," Boquist said. "I'm not going to be a political prisoner in the state of Oregon. It's just that simple."

Militia groups in the Pacific Northwest--a hotbed of far-right extremist activist--claim they've mobilized to protect those state senators. "We're doing what we can to make sure that they're safe and comfortable," said Eric Parker, the president of militia group Real Three Percenters Idaho, said the Idaho militias are in touch with their Oregon counterparts about the senators. - MORE...

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/armed-militias-pledge-to-fight-for-fugitive-oregon-gop-lawmakers-at-any-cost?ref=home



- Efforts to scuttle the cap-and-trade legislation have taken a remarkable and potentially dark turn.- An Oregon militia movement source told The Daily Beast: members were "willing to put their own lives in front of these senators' lives," dozens of armed members have "mobilized" to protect the state senators, there is potential for violence if authorities try to bring back the senators, and the groups would defend the Republicans "at any cost." "All of them are armed," he said.

Groups that have joined: the III%ers, the Oath Keepers, and independent militia groups from out of state. The III%ers are named for their belief that only 3% of colonists were involved in the American Revolution. Oath Keepers are named for veterans and law enforcement officers who have vowed not to violate their "oaths."

READ MORE: Senators Face $500 Fines For Fleeing, Threaten To Sue
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oregon-senators-face-dollar500-fines-for-fleeing-threaten-to-sue/ar-AADd3Pw?liBBnbcA1&ocidHPCOMMDHP15

Those opposed to the cap-and-trade plan say it would exacerbate a growing divide between the liberal, urban parts of the state and the rural areas. The plan would increase the cost of fuel, damaging small business, truckers and the logging industry, they say. Democrats say the measure is an efficient way to lower emissions while investing in low-income and rural communities' ability to adapt to climate change. It has the support of environmental groups, farmworkers and some trade unions.

Republicans aren't just holding up a climate plan, but a significant portion of the state budget including funding for the state's health care, foster care and higher education agencies.

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Armed Militias Pledge To Fight For Fugitive Oregon GOP Lawmakers 'At Any Cost' (Original Post) appalachiablue Jun 2019 OP
As I mentioned on another thread on this subject trev Jun 2019 #1
WRONG. THE DEMS NEVER ADVOCATED VIOLENCE !!! I say lock them up in the slammer. trueblue2007 Jun 2019 #2
I wasn't referring to violence. trev Jun 2019 #3
Other instances of legislators leaving (from the article): appalachiablue Jun 2019 #4
Do you remember the Texas example? They stayed in a motel in Oklahoma, were arrested, anyway. Judi Lynn Jun 2019 #7
I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or not.... trev Jun 2019 #12
Affirmative, other cases w/o violence appalachiablue Jun 2019 #13
Yay! trev Jun 2019 #15
Well, of course. trev Jun 2019 #16
Camas, here. chwaliszewski Jun 2019 #11
Oh, I LOVE Camas. trev Jun 2019 #14
Moved here in 2006. chwaliszewski Jun 2019 #21
I know. It's like there's one for every person in the city. LOL trev Jun 2019 #34
The reason for their resistance makes all the difference in the world, clearly. Judi Lynn Jun 2019 #5
Thanks for the posts, a better picture. appalachiablue Jun 2019 #8
Look, I'm not advocating the practice. trev Jun 2019 #10
Democrats and their supporters atreides1 Jun 2019 #32
I have plenty of problems. trev Jun 2019 #35
It's not the Republican legislators doing the threats Sucha NastyWoman Jun 2019 #27
If you want to challenge the state exercise of violence to a pissing contest based on a straw-man RockRaven Jun 2019 #6
the folks want to be martyrs KT2000 Jun 2019 #9
No. They are too chicken shit to be martyrs. trev Jun 2019 #17
First and foremost, these are not "militia" groups, joshdawg Jun 2019 #18
They want to fight the State Police, then the state police.... Historic NY Jun 2019 #19
Isn't that cute? Anti-union dumbfucks want to go "on strike." Beartracks Jun 2019 #20
That cuts to the bottom line! pazzyanne Jun 2019 #22
Take the fuckers out. Flaleftist Jun 2019 #23
Are the repugs mobilizing the Lavoy Finicum Brigade, too? Mc Mike Jun 2019 #24
Republicon LAWmakers break LAW by threatening to shoot LAW officers. Only RepubliCONs would do that. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #25
Don't they know how ignorant and ridiculous procon Jun 2019 #26
Gee, what would happen if these Retrumplicans and militia were black? maxrandb Jun 2019 #28
Exactly! That was my first thought. denvine Jun 2019 #29
Find out where they are staying and blockade them in. Hotler Jun 2019 #30
Thsi kinda shit was made possible by: Cryptoad Jun 2019 #31
Good example of why the GOP fanatics win. BadGimp Jun 2019 #33
Militia in Oregon encouraging people to kill police keithbvadu2 Jun 2019 #36
Oregon cancels legislative session Saturday over threats from militia groups Judi Lynn Jun 2019 #37

trev

(1,480 posts)
1. As I mentioned on another thread on this subject
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:27 AM
Jun 2019

this tactic has been deployed by Democrats as well. If you don't have the power to stop legislation, this reaction seems to be the norm in regards to avoiding a vote.

Let them run.

We need to get the people on our side. Then stuff like this won't matter.

trueblue2007

(17,203 posts)
2. WRONG. THE DEMS NEVER ADVOCATED VIOLENCE !!! I say lock them up in the slammer.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:37 AM
Jun 2019


i live in Portland and these GOPigs suck. I can't stand them.



#PutTheGOPsInPrison #LockThemUp and throw away the key

trev

(1,480 posts)
3. I wasn't referring to violence.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:40 AM
Jun 2019

I was referring to the Democrats leaving the state to avoid a vote. This has happened three times.

BTW, I'm in Vancouver. Howdy, neighbor.

appalachiablue

(41,114 posts)
4. Other instances of legislators leaving (from the article):
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:44 AM
Jun 2019

> "This isn’t the first time state lawmakers of either party have fled their states to deny their rivals a quorum. In 2003, Texas Democrats left the state to avoid a vote on redistricting legislation, while Democratic lawmakers in Wisconsin fled in 2011 to block Republican cuts to union rights.
> But what makes the current standoff in Oregon unique is the offers of help from militias—and the threats by at least one of those lawmakers to shoot police himself." (The Daily Beast).

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
7. Do you remember the Texas example? They stayed in a motel in Oklahoma, were arrested, anyway.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:56 AM
Jun 2019

They let the criminally insane sector down by not remembering to shoot their way out of there!

Thanks for providing the quote.

trev

(1,480 posts)
14. Oh, I LOVE Camas.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:26 AM
Jun 2019

They're really coming along with restoring downtown. I patronize a lot of the establishments. Wonderful place.

trev

(1,480 posts)
34. I know. It's like there's one for every person in the city. LOL
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 04:32 PM
Jun 2019

I moved to Vancouver the last day of 2006.

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
5. The reason for their resistance makes all the difference in the world, clearly.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:51 AM
Jun 2019


BumbleF### Oregon State Sen. Brian Boquist

These men are ready to kill others to resist acknowledging climate change.

trev

(1,480 posts)
10. Look, I'm not advocating the practice.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:20 AM
Jun 2019

I'm just saying that we've done the same thing. How can we fault them for what we do ourselves?

atreides1

(16,070 posts)
32. Democrats and their supporters
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 02:05 PM
Jun 2019

Did not threaten the use of violence and deadly force...also I don't recall that Democrats received the support of groups that are mainly composed of white nationalists...so it isn't the same thing!!!

And if you can't see the difference...then you have problems!!!

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,745 posts)
27. It's not the Republican legislators doing the threats
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 08:35 AM
Jun 2019

It’s their constituents.

When Republicans sent law enforcement officers after Democratic legislators in Texas, Democratic constituents didn’t threaten anyone.

Republicans, both politicians and their constituents, are becoming increasingly lawless. Law enforcement is either intimidated by them, supportive of them, or feel powerless to go after them. So they withhold details about criminal acts from the public - especially about the perpetrators extremist views.

After closer inspection . . . I see that one Senator actually HAS threatenedlaw enforcement.


RockRaven

(14,951 posts)
6. If you want to challenge the state exercise of violence to a pissing contest based on a straw-man
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 12:55 AM
Jun 2019

then I guess I will reserve all of my sympathy for the state agents of violence who have to deal with the psychological and physical aftermath of doing their job and I will have nothing left over for your dumb ass...

If you were to have a coherent fact-based philosophical/intellectual basis for your position, I would feel differently (perhaps entirely oppositely), but you don't, so I don't. Get wrecked, idiots.

KT2000

(20,572 posts)
9. the folks want to be martyrs
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:11 AM
Jun 2019

instead of the losers they really are. The RW can have them - hope they do find these guys and "protect" them with all their war gear and craziness. The politicians will be dialing the state patrol for help.

trev

(1,480 posts)
17. No. They are too chicken shit to be martyrs.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:47 AM
Jun 2019

Push come to shove, they will cringe in fear as the cowards they are.

joshdawg

(2,647 posts)
18. First and foremost, these are not "militia" groups,
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:50 AM
Jun 2019

they are nothing more than an unlawful gang of thugs and should be treated as such.

pazzyanne

(6,546 posts)
22. That cuts to the bottom line!
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 05:34 AM
Jun 2019

Going "on strike" is one thing, threatening to shoot police officers in the line of duty is quite another thing. Lawmaker making lawless threats is anti ethical and against their oath of office!

procon

(15,805 posts)
26. Don't they know how ignorant and ridiculous
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 07:45 AM
Jun 2019

they look? Denying climate change and pretending it has effects will not make it go away. Republicans really are the Stupid Party, they deny science and math and cling to insanely convoluted conspiracy theories that shore up their ignorance.

Now milquetoast Republicans have tossed in a dash of Ramboesque bravado to paint a cartoonist vision of themselves as paper tigers. The costumes and tough talk will sputter out the minute they find themselves facing armed police. In addition to their handcuffs and weapons, the police might want to bring the senators a box of Depends.

maxrandb

(15,316 posts)
28. Gee, what would happen if these Retrumplicans and militia were black?
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 08:41 AM
Jun 2019

I'm done coddling these ignorant fucksticks.

denvine

(799 posts)
29. Exactly! That was my first thought.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 10:31 AM
Jun 2019

The police will shoot a black man if they think he has a gun, so let's see how they respond to a militia group and a Republican lawmaker who threaten violence against law enforcement. I agree, time to stop coddling these assholes. They are not above the law, even though their president thinks he his.

Hotler

(11,412 posts)
30. Find out where they are staying and blockade them in.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 10:37 AM
Jun 2019

Turn off the power, water, communication to the outside world and wait them out.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
31. Thsi kinda shit was made possible by:
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:06 PM
Jun 2019

,,,letting these batshit crazies take over a Federal property in Oregon and not do squat abt it here a year or so ago.

BadGimp

(4,013 posts)
33. Good example of why the GOP fanatics win.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 03:09 PM
Jun 2019

They who up and fight like hell. Especially when they are wrong.

keithbvadu2

(36,733 posts)
36. Militia in Oregon encouraging people to kill police
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 07:34 PM
Jun 2019

Militia in Oregon encouraging people to kill police

Start about 3:40 on the timeline

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
37. Oregon cancels legislative session Saturday over threats from militia groups
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 08:07 PM
Jun 2019

JUNE 22, 2019 / 7:52 PM
By Nicholas Sakelaris

June 22 (UPI) -- The Oregon state senate canceled its Saturday session over concerns that armed militia groups could gather outside the capital and threaten lawmakers.

The Oregon GOP Twitter account said "Democrats canceled their weekend session citing a fear that Republican voters may show up."

This comes two days after Republicans walked out of the legislature in protest of a cap and trade bill that would reduce greenhouse gases, eliminate the use of fossil fuels and require other climate-related changes.

Oregon State Police and partner agencies "are planning accordingly," Oregon State Police Capt. Tim Fox said.

More:
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/06/22/Oregon-cancels-legislative-session-Saturday-over-threats-from-militia-groups/5221561244419/

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