Active shooting suspect in custody at VB Municipal Center; Multiple people injured

[Cadfael]

Source: WAVY TV 10

4:51 p.m. Virginia Beach police say they believe there’s only one shooter, and that person has been taken into custody. They say multiple people have been injured. There’s no word on the extent of the victims’ injuries at this time.

Read more: https://www.wavy.com/sports/virginia-sports/potential-active-shooter-reported-at-vb-municipal-center/

[eggplant]

1. Please, #NoNotoriety.

https://nonotoriety.com/

No Name. No Photo. No Notoriety.

IT’S A MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY

The quest for notoriety and infamy is a well known motivating factor in rampage mass killings and violent copycat crimes. In an effort to reduce future tragedies, we CHALLENGE THE MEDIA – calling for RESPONSIBLE MEDIA COVERAGE FOR THE SAKE OF PUBLIC SAFETY when reporting on individuals who commit or attempt acts of rampage mass violence thereby depriving violent like minded individuals the media celebrity and media spotlight they so crave.

[marble falls]

2. Personally I prefer to know what's going on. Who did what with what to whom ...

I don't want it to be a suprise someday:
"Dja know there's been Nazis going around attacking people?"
"No, haven't seen a thing on the news about it."

Not being forthright about this stuff gives the RW the ability to spin events.

"Dja know there's been Democrats going around attacking people?"
"No, haven't seen a thing on the fake news about it. Thank Oden for Breitbart!"

[Jedi Guy]

24. Preeeeetty sure eggplant was referring to the obsessive media coverage of the shooter.

You know how after every mass shooting the media dissects every minute aspect of the shooter's life? How their picture is splashed on the front page of every major news website, and all over the media broadcasts? Meanwhile, the victims are largely anonymous, unless one is particularly sympathetic to a mass audience.

The incident itself should certainly be reported, but that can be done without making the shooter into a celebrity.

[eggplant]

25. It is important to know about the incident.

But it is the victims that deserve coverage, not their killer. Go read the nonotoriety.com website.

[barbtries]

27. i don't care about his name.

but i want to know. was it domestic, was it work-related, was it a white supremacist or an islamic radical?

it appears this killer worked there. i really don't care about the name as much as i want to know the motivation. if the motivation is notoriety, fine. let's not say his name. but i still want to know where on the mass shooting spectrum this falls. is it another young white man? an old disgruntled POC? A suicidal jihadist or a nazi wanna-start-a-race-war shooter? an angry husband/ boyfriend? Maybe it's a woman. That would be news and I want to know it.

these are happening almost daily. sometimes i don't hear about them until the next day. there are undoubtedly mass shootings I don't even know happened, because i don't have live news. I have twitter, fb, and DU. I follow a lot of common sense gun law advocacy groups and that's where the initial news usually comes from.

i want to know when the shooter has been active on social media and possibly radicalized online. i want to know when there were warning signs, when maybe it didn't have to happen if there had been an intervention and if the guns weren't available to the shooter.

i mean these occurrences don't HAVE to happen. they didn't used to be an almost daily occurrence. there are issues in our society and the prevalence of guns is an issue to me. how are we going to fix it if we don't learn these details?

[Va Lefty]

3. "At least one dead and at least six injured"

Link to tweet

?s=19

[applegrove]

4. Multiple people hurt. CNN Vibes to them and their families.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

5. Oh, yawn. Just another day in this wonderful country.

But never forget, guns make us safer and most gun owners are responsible, even presumably the ones that leave guns where toddlers can find them.

Just a little sarcasm.

[Va Lefty]

6. "Several" fatalities. Another day in America

Link to tweet

?s=19

[nocoincidences]

7. I live in Virginia Beach.

I am anxiously waiting to hear details. There will be a police press conference at 6:30.

[applegrove]

8. 6 people brought to hospital. Vibes to your city.

[Blue_Tires]

11. thanks...

[applegrove]

12. 11 fatalities. 6 in hospital. Press conference right now. So sorry.

[Blue_Tires]

17. The municipal center usually has a heavy police presence

So this person knew going in he had zero chance for survival...

[nocoincidences]

9. Local news people

are reporting what people are telling them, unsubstantiated so far, and it sounds much worse than has been broadcast so far. I hate to say the number he has heard as dead, since it is not confirmed yet, but it is horrifying.

[applegrove]

10. 11 fatalities. 6 in hospital.

[Blue_Tires]

13. Next briefing at 9:30

Governor is inbound

SHOOTER IS A CURRENT EMPLOYEE

[csziggy]

20. 6:34 update says he was terminated yesterday

From link in OP:
6:34 p.m. — WAVY’s Andy Fox reports that multiple city sources say the suspect, who is now deceased, is a disgruntled former city employee who was fired on Thursday

[nocoincidences]

14. There are 11 victims dead, but the shooter is also dead.

One police officer was shot, but survived, one victim was taken to a local hospital and immediately airlifted to Norfolk which is a Level 1 Trauma center. Someone said that that person has since died, but I don't know if that has been confirmed.

[Glimmer of Hope]

15. Make it stop.

[Celerity]

16. FUCK THE NRA and I weep for the dead, the injured and their friends and families

[bronxiteforever]

18. More here

Shortly after 4 p.m., the suspect, a long-time city employee, entered the municipal center and began to “indiscriminately fire on all the victims,” the chief said in the first news conference on the situation. Although earlier reports said the suspect had been fired, the chief said he was a “current employee” and added that the shooting occurred over multiple floors.

Officers responded to building 2. They secured as many of the victims as they could. “The suspect did shoot a police officer. Officers returned fire. Suspect is deceased. The scene is secure,” said the chief.

NBC 12 reported that there were “mounting numbers of people injured.” People stepped over wounded coworkers and hid for their lives, according to the station. It’s believed there was a single shooter.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/05/virginia-beach-victims-shooting-municipal-center/

Updated at 7:07 pm May 31, 2019

[BigmanPigman]

19. He went from floor to floor...

how scary for those who could hear him moving closer while all they could do is hide and barricade doors.

[bronxiteforever]

21. Yes all horrible! And the fact that our Country

Accepts that it is normal for regular citizens to be victims in a real horror story.

[LonePirate]

22. Another example of why we need to confiscate every gun in America. It's time to end these massacres.

[BigmanPigman]

23. Some guy on TV said that we could do that

and it would be a good start but there are already soooooo many guns out there that this violent behavior with existing guns will continue for a very long time. Maybe we need a gun buy-back plan.

[Hoyt]

26. Every decade we do nothing puts another 100 million guns on the street. Might as well start now,

Someday -- even if it's 50 years from now -- the easy availability of guns will not be a major factor in stopping this junk.

[BigmanPigman]

29. Agree!

[Quackers]

34. My personal opinion and I've said it before,

We need to lay the framework for future weapons laws too. Instead of always being reactionary, proactive laws that limit new weapons technology are needed. At the rate we’re going, by the time we effect meaningful legislation on firearms, the new generation of weapons will make it obsolete. We are in the generation of energy weapons, pulse weapons, and non-explosive propellants. The framework for new laws need to be laid or we will always be one step behind.

[Hoyt]

36. Exactly. Seems pretty easy to define "weapons" to encompass all that, if we don't let the lobbyists

write the laws.

[appal_jack]

32. You can't "buy back" what wasn't yours to begin with.

To address violent crime, we need to tackle issues of equality, justice, opportunity, mental and physical health, and education. Will that solve the problem quickly? No, but we have sto start some time, and the work will be worthwhile every step of the way.

Proposals for gun bans, "buy backs" (no such actual thing), and confiscations would either go nowhere while stirring up anti-Dem votes, or worse, with the real possibility of much more violence from people opposing the bans and confiscations.

Too many DU'ers appear to have forgotten the history of Waco and the Oklahoma City bombing under the Clinton years, not to mention the various Bundy/fundy/send snacks militia actions of more recent Obama years. Plans to violate the Second Amendment via bans and confiscations would make those conflicts seem mild, and I want no part of either side of such.

Watching Democrats squander political capital on such a fruitless pursuit is one of the most depressing aspects of political engagement today.

-app

[hack89]

31. Solutions based in reality will be more effective

There is a lot that can be done without total confiscation.

[LonePirate]

33. The days for milquetoast solutions are over. Go bold or go home, as they say.

[hack89]

35. It will never happen so it is kind of hard to call it a "solution "

Real solutions are usually grounded in reality and are somewhat plausible.

[Hoyt]

37. +1000000. Those who need guns to enjoy life aren't going to give up easily, so gotta be "bold."

[jpak]

28. My outrage is long gone

NRA - Mission Accomplished.

Good for you.

[Aussie105]

30. Agreed.

Outrage gland in my brain has been worn out.

The USA is one of a very small number of countries where a Business Plan drawn up by gun makers and the NRA includes acceptance of collateral damage to it's own citizens.

In a war zone, these deaths would be attributed to 'friendly fire'.

Is America at war? Battle lines drawn up? Gun owners versus anyone who, in their opinion, does them wrong?

Are the repeated incidents of mass shootings acceptable to the Business Plan of the gun makers and NRA? Should they be?

Politicians say 'thoughts and prayers', then say 'now is not the time to discuss gun control', and it is business as usual after the shock and horror disappears from the news.

Until the next mass shootings. Rinse and repeat.