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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:32 PM Apr 2019

U.S. Navy drafting new guidelines for reporting UFOs

Source: Politico

The U.S. Navy is drafting new guidelines for pilots and other personnel to report encounters with "unidentified aircraft," a significant new step in creating a formal process to collect and analyze the unexplained sightings — and destigmatize them. The previously unreported move is in response to a series of sightings of unknown, highly advanced aircraft intruding on Navy strike groups and other sensitive military formations and facilities, the service says.

To be clear, the Navy isn’t endorsing the idea that its sailors have encountered alien spacecraft. But it is acknowledging there have been enough strange aerial sightings by credible and highly trained military personnel that they need to be recorded in the official record and studied — rather than dismissed as some kooky phenomena from the realm of science-fiction.

More lawmakers are now asking questions, the Navy also reports. "In response to requests for information from Congressional members and staff, Navy officials have provided a series of briefings by senior Naval Intelligence officials as well as aviators who reported hazards to aviation safety," the service said in its statement to POLITICO.

Advocates for treating such sightings as a potential national security threat have long criticized military leaders for giving the phenomenon relatively little attention and for encouraging a culture in which personnel feel that speaking up about it could hurt their career.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/23/us-navy-guidelines-reporting-ufos-1375290

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U.S. Navy drafting new guidelines for reporting UFOs (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 OP
Video shows apparent encounter between Navy pilot and UFO left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 #1
Far out. Tactical Peek Apr 2019 #5
this AllaN01Bear Apr 2019 #2
Cool! n/t JoeOtterbein Apr 2019 #3
One of the heads of MUFON was on a TV show couple years ago... Archae Apr 2019 #4
I don't know what to make of any of this stuff. snort Apr 2019 #6
I think the important takeaway is the term "UFO" does not officially specify "alien flying saucer". forgotmylogin Apr 2019 #7
I've no doubt their are alien species out there My Name is Url Apr 2019 #8
I Want to Believe Baclava Apr 2019 #9
About time. Time to stop hiding our heads in the sand about UFOs...they are real. NT SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #10
I saw one land 27 months ago in zip code 20500 discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2019 #11

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
1. Video shows apparent encounter between Navy pilot and UFO
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:45 PM
Apr 2019
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2018/03/13/video-shows-apparent-encounter-between-navy-pilot-and-ufo/

A video was released Friday (3-9-2018) by To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science that appears to show U.S. Navy pilots encountering an unidentified flying object in 2015.

“GO FAST is an authentic DoD video that captures the high-speed flight of an unidentified aircraft at low altitudes,” according to the TTSA. The video, titled “GO FAST,” comes just months after the New York Times published two other declassified videos that show alleged encounters between U.S. Navy pilots and UFOs.

The Department of Defense declined to comment on the latest video.

These videos are drawing calls for more research into what the objects may be. The Washington Post published an op-ed on Friday from Chris Mellon, a TTSA adviser and former deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence. “Reports from different services and agencies remain largely ignored and unevaluated inside their respective bureaucratic stovepipes,” wrote Mellon.

Archae

(46,301 posts)
4. One of the heads of MUFON was on a TV show couple years ago...
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:56 PM
Apr 2019

And he lamented the fact that just about everyone and their mothers now carry cameras, (cell phones,) but UFO pictures are STILL either:

1. Faked

2. Fuzzy blobs of light

3. Fuzzy objects that could be anything, including birds, balloons, aircraft, etc.

snort

(2,334 posts)
6. I don't know what to make of any of this stuff.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:02 AM
Apr 2019

40 years under the very dark and clear skies of north central AZ playing with my telescopes, I have seen the unexplained on more than one occasion (naked eye), including an object clearly being chased by a couple of fighter jets, most likely scrambled out of Luke. Another time I watched an object following a passenger jet and its shape and appearance was cliche, a yellow lozenge shape with a glowing green band around its center. Weird, very weird.

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
7. I think the important takeaway is the term "UFO" does not officially specify "alien flying saucer".
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 03:01 AM
Apr 2019

UFO has become so synonymous with the conspiracy-theory supernatural that I'd agree they might want to coin a new term like UA - "unidentified aircraft".

 

My Name is Url

(43 posts)
8. I've no doubt their are alien species out there
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 03:44 AM
Apr 2019

But I don't think they've visited us. The distances involved are insane!

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
9. I Want to Believe
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:02 AM
Apr 2019
Navy pilot recalls encounter with UFO: 'I think it was not from this world'

Retired Cmdr. David Fravor spent 18 years as a Navy pilot, but nothing prepared him for what he witnessed during a routine training mission on Nov. 14, 2004.

"I can tell you, I think it was not from this world," Fravor told ABC News. "I'm not crazy, haven't been drinking. It was — after 18 years of flying, I've seen pretty much about everything that I can see in that realm, and this was nothing close."

Fravor's stunning retelling of his encounter off the California coast with what appeared to be a 40-foot-long wingless object that flew at incredible speeds in an erratic pattern comes as the Pentagon revealed the existence of a secret program to investigate sightings of UFOs.

The program was shut down in 2012 because of other budget priorities, according to the Pentagon.

"I have never seen anything in my life, in my history of flying that has the performance, the acceleration — keep in mind this thing had no wings," Fravor said.

He recalled flying his F/A-18 fighter on a training mission on a beautiful Southern California day 13 years ago when things started to get strange.

Controllers on one of the Navy ships on the water below reported objects that were dropping out of the sky from 80,000 feet and going "straight back up," Fravor said.

"So we're thinking, OK, this is going to be interesting," he said.

As they were looking around for the object that appeared on the radar, another aviator spotted something. "I was like, 'Dude, do you see that?'" Fravor recalled saying.

“We look down, we see a white disturbance in the water, like something's under the surface, and the waves are breaking over, but we see next to it, and it's flying around, and it's this little white Tic Tac, and it's moving around — left, right, forward, back, just random," he said.

The object didn't display the rotor wash typical of a helicopter or jet wash from a plane, he said.

The planes flew lower to investigate the object, which started to mirror their movements before disappearing, Fravor said. "As we start to cut across, it rapidly accelerates, climbs past our altitude and disappears," Fravor recalled.

"When it started to near us, as we started to descend towards it coming up, it was flying in the elongated way, so it's [like] a Tic Tac, with the roundish end going in the forward direction ... I don't know what it is. I don't know what I saw. I just know it was really impressive, really fast, and I would like to fly it," he said.

The disturbance in the water also vanished with object, he remembered.

"So we turned around — we couldn't have been more than about a couple miles away — and there's no white water at all in the ocean," Fravor said. "It's just blue."

At that point, they decided to return to complete the training exercise when they were told the object or something similar reappeared.

"And the controller comes up and says, 'Sir, you're not going to believe this. That thing is at your half point,' which is our hold point," Fravor added. "And I'm like, 'Oh, great.'"

Another plane that launched from the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz around the same time had its radar jammed and was able to pick up the object on an infrared channel.

"He gets close enough to see a couple of objects come out of the bottom, and then all of a sudden it takes off and goes right off the side of the screen and, like, takes off," Fravor said.

He recalled that the speed of the object, which he said had no exhaust trail in infrared scanning, was stunning.

"No aircraft that we know of can fly at those speeds, maneuver like that and looks like that," ABC News contributor and former Marine Col. Stephen Ganyard said.

Fravor said there is no rational explanation for what they saw that day.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/navy-pilot-recalls-encounter-ufo-unlike/story?id=51856514


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