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BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:38 PM Apr 2019

Treasury secretary misses deadline for providing Trump tax returns to House panel

Source: Washington Post



Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Tuesday told a key lawmaker he would make a final decision as to whether to furnish President Trump’s tax returns by May 6, committing for the first time to a specific deadline in what has become a major Washington power struggle.

In a 10-page letter to House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Richard E. Neal (D-Mass.), Mnuchin said the Democrats’ request for Trump’s tax returns raised constitutional and privacy issues that needed to be resolved by the Justice Department before he could make a decision on how to proceed.

The letter repeatedly cast doubt on the motivations of Democrats in seeking the tax return information. Mnuchin served as Trump’s finance chairman during the 2016 presidential campaign, and the president already has signaled he does not want the information released, but multiple legal scholars have said they don’t see much precedent for Mnuchin to ignore the congressional inquiry. Still, Treasury Department officials have taken steps to make their reluctance to turn over the records legally defensible. Tuesday’s letter contained 48 footnotes.

Neal has twice formally requested the tax returns from Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Charles P. Rettig, and the latest deadline was Tuesday at 5 p.m. Mnuchin has responded to both requests with a letter of his own, saying more time was needed while also casting doubt as to why Democrats are seeking the records in the first place.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/treasury-likely-to-defy-tuesday-deadline-to-turn-over-trump-tax-returns/2019/04/23/daa7da46-653e-11e9-82ba-fcfeff232e8f_story.html



Full headline: Treasury secretary misses deadline for providing Trump tax returns to House panel, says he will make final decision by May 6

From the OP article -

also casting doubt as to why Democrats are seeking the records in the first place.


Article I

Section 9.

<...>

No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei#section9
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Treasury secretary misses deadline for providing Trump tax returns to House panel (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 OP
"Revenge of the Nerds" in real life. If only the consequences weren't so high. Evolve Dammit Apr 2019 #1
I think all of them are aware of how BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #3
Then they have no moral compass and/or backbone to stand up for their country? Pathetic. Evolve Dammit Apr 2019 #18
The GOP is the party of cowards who only function in lockstep because they are weak as individuals. BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #19
So how did we ever win two world wars? This must be a Reagan/ post-Reagan phenomena for the GOP? Evolve Dammit Apr 2019 #20
Well you know it's bad when the current GOP has thrown their GAWD Raygun under the bus. BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #21
uh oh time for some sternly worded letters nt msongs Apr 2019 #2
Of course he did. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #4
The benefit that half his cabinet had was that BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #5
Any chance he can be arrested for breaking the law over this? cstanleytech Apr 2019 #6
I think the proper phrasing is "Pound Sand." briv1016 Apr 2019 #7
Arrest them. It would only take one arrest to set the example. ffr Apr 2019 #8
This is why I raised a stink when Neal gave 'em this extension in the 1st place ... mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #9
That's not the normal process BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #12
We made a formal request for earlier in the month, that was blown-off mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #13
And in the past BumRushDaShow Apr 2019 #14
Fuck Mnuchin! That son of a bitch should have been put in jail for One West's fraud Power 2 the People Apr 2019 #10
Criminal referral, then impeach Mnuchin and Rettig, and Barr. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #11
Off topic, but what kind of a name is "Mnuchin"? nt Progressive Jones Apr 2019 #15
Derived from, "Munchkin" Bayard Apr 2019 #16
LMAO! nt Progressive Jones May 2019 #22
Enough of this crap! Bayard Apr 2019 #17

Evolve Dammit

(16,725 posts)
1. "Revenge of the Nerds" in real life. If only the consequences weren't so high.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:41 PM
Apr 2019

If they all refuse to comply, we've got a huge Constitutional crisis.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
3. I think all of them are aware of how
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:43 PM
Apr 2019

a certain someone is quick to throw people under the bus (look at Cohen). So you may actually get some willing to say "the hell with it" and attempt to save their own hides because no one else is going to do so.

Evolve Dammit

(16,725 posts)
20. So how did we ever win two world wars? This must be a Reagan/ post-Reagan phenomena for the GOP?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:18 PM
Apr 2019

Even Nixon did some good things; Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, OSHA, Endangered Species Act. Sadly, Nixon would not make it out of a primary contest today. Which says the GOP has become radicalized and is a threat to our existence.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
4. Of course he did.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:44 PM
Apr 2019

And he doesn't get to make a final decision, or any other kind of decision. The statute says he has to produce them. No wiggle room, no excuses. But he knows his ass is grass if he does it, and he wants to keep his cushy job where he gets to jet all over and fondle the money at Fort Knox while happily violating federal ethics rules ( https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/04/us/politics/steven-mnuchin-ethics-office.html ) like almost every other member of the administration. If he does what the law requires Trump will probably fire him and tweet about what a traitor he is, and then he'll have to go home to his hedge fund.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
5. The benefit that half his cabinet had was that
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:47 PM
Apr 2019

they all had/have more tangible assets than their boss, so this was just "a gig". A "lark".

ffr

(22,669 posts)
8. Arrest them. It would only take one arrest to set the example.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:02 PM
Apr 2019

Scum should spend their days in prison.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
9. This is why I raised a stink when Neal gave 'em this extension in the 1st place ...
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:12 PM
Apr 2019

Should've just subpoeana'd the first freakin' time, Mr. Neal!

There was never a chance they were going to comply by today, now you've been blown off twice.

What's next? Just going to kowtow and let Mnuchin determine a new deadline (that he'll ignore when teh time comes)?

Ain't NO DECISION FOR YOU to MAKE, Stevie-boy?!?

Hand 'em the F*** over!

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
12. That's not the normal process
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:30 PM
Apr 2019

It is part of the House Rules (PDF file) and each Committee and Sub-Committee has their own subset of Rules.

It's courtesy and protocol to first make a "formal request" (and yes that still exists because if you drop that concept, then the entire "honor system" that exists for our form of government will then start to collapse). If the "request" is not followed, then you escalate.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
13. We made a formal request for earlier in the month, that was blown-off
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:30 PM
Apr 2019

There was no escalation at all, Neal pretty much went 'Oh, okay, well, how about the 23rd then?'

This better be the last time w/o escalation. It's not A DECISION for Mnuchin to make, this 'We'll decide by this (THIRD deadline, date decided by Mnuchin)' is freaking BS.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
14. And in the past
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:40 PM
Apr 2019

Committees have granted extensions if they receive what they may perceive as a valid excuse.

They are tightening the screws and I guarantee it is stressing some folks out in the administration. Per the Committee Rules they also have subpoena power, which would be the next step.

I expect much of this is being done so that when (and this is probably not an "if" but a "when" ) this request ends up in the courts, they will establish that they followed a regular order process to obtain the documents.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
10. Fuck Mnuchin! That son of a bitch should have been put in jail for One West's fraud
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:20 PM
Apr 2019

We would have never heard of him! Because he was allowed to skate he ended up being Trump's top bundler and getting that doofus elected. Now he gives everyone the finger and refuses to follow the law because he's knows there are no consequences.

Bayard

(22,063 posts)
17. Enough of this crap!
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:33 AM
Apr 2019

The Constitution is very clear on this issue, there is no deliberation. tRump plebes will continue to obstruct all day if allowed to do so.

Time to start arresting them for Contempt of Congress.

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