Permanent daylight saving time passes Washington state House 90-6, heads to Inslee's desk
Source: Seattle Times
Lovers of the winter sunset, rejoice.
A bill to put Washington state permanently on daylight saving time has passed the state House of Representatives 90-6 and now heads to Gov. Jay Inslees desk for a signature. Rep. Marcus Riccelli, D-Spokane, who is among the bills sponsors, said hes had every indication that the governor intends to sign the bill.
Last week, the state Senate voted 46-2 to get Washington state off the twice-a-year time change seesaw and adopt permanent daylight saving time, which we currently observe eight months of the year. Amendments to House Bill 1196 made in the Senate were accepted by the House in Tuesday mornings vote.
The people of Washington have said they want to #DitchTheSwitch, and passing this bill sends that message loud and clear to the other Washington, Riccelli, wrote in a news release posted on his website.
Read more: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/permanent-daylight-saving-time-passes-washington-state-house-90-6-heads-to-inslees-desk/
A similar Bill has passed the house in Tennessee.
Berlin Expat
(950 posts)More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)California voters passed a similar ballot initiative that has to go through the legislature and then Congress.
Oddly, no Congressional permission is needed if states want to stay on standard time. Some states might end up doing that eventually, if Congress fails to act. I think that TX and KS are already considering that.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Will both Washington and Montana be on the same time and Northern Idaho be an hour after them?
Auggie
(31,168 posts)I don't care what we do in California. But if Inslee approves, and if the people of California agree, then do it. Just wish Oregon, Arizona and Nevada get on board too. Keep it simple for the rest of the world.
Switching back and forth to DST has never bothered me.
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)It seems there is more of a concerted push to do it this time and if Washington, Oregon and California make the switch I think we'll follow suit. If the whole west coast changes, that might be enough incentive for everywhere else to do it as well.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Which makes it odd, it's like an island within Arizona that is a different time for most of the year.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The reason we have daylight savings time is because it saves energy. Without it, energy consumption will rise, and contribute to climate change more.
Auggie
(31,168 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Which the whole country had for a period in the late 70's, in order to save energy during an energy crisis.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)If it were just that only certain hours saved energy, regardless of time of year, you are right....it would have been changed year 'round.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)to save on energy, during the energy crisis. But when the crisis was over we went back to only part of the year on DST.
Now we would be returning to the energy saving year-round DST.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)it would have been changed to year 'round at the time.
Energy needs vary between winter & summer months. Different times for each save energy. Not the same time frame for both.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)19731975: Year-round experiment
During the 1973 oil embargo by the Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries (OAPEC), in an effort to conserve fuel, Congress enacted a trial period of year-round DST (P.L. 93-182), beginning January 6, 1974, and ending April 27, 1975.[8] The trial was hotly debated. Those in favor pointed to increased daylight hours in the summer evening: more time for recreation, reduced lighting and heating demands, reduced crime, and reduced automobile accidents. The opposition was concerned about children leaving for school in the dark. The act was amended in October 1974 (P.L. 93-434) to return to standard time for the period beginning October 27, 1974, and ending February 23, 1975, when DST resumed. When the trial ended in 1975, the country returned to observing summer DST (with the aforementioned exceptions).[7]
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I need to read up on this. What you are saying is that we are not really on daylight savings time right now. We are on it only half the year. So we are going to extend it for the whole year (again)....making it daylight savings time all year.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)And in WA state we want to change it back to year round.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Which means different time frames in summer vs winter.
The U S tried the same time all year a few times, but it was never agreed that that saved energy. But pretty much everyone agreed that following the sun (spring forward, fall back) saved energy, although no one liked the spring forward timing.
I live in the south. I've always hated the "spring forward" time frame. More sun is the LAST thing we need in the south. It's already so darn hot, even when it's dark.
I'm not sure which is the standard time, though. If it's the "fall back" time, I'm all for it. If it's the "spring forward" time, that would be hell, to have that all year 'round.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)angrychair
(8,698 posts)It's an empty gesture that means nothing.
Waiting on Republicans in Congress to do anything is time wasted. This is toothless and pointless legislation.
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)I hope they do it.
I hate darkness at 530. And its worse if you're not too far West of a time zone. In Panama City it'll get dark at 445! Noticeably anyway
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The south doesn't need DST for it to be light in the morning in winter. It's bad enough we have DST for most of the year, as it is.
It's HOT in the south, even when it's dark. We sure as heck don't need the sun even more in the winter.
The article mentioned the issue of it being dark in the morning for kids going to school. That it's 8:00 am under standard time. Without standard time (changing to DST year 'round), it would then be 9:00a.m. Presumably dark at 8a.m., but light at 9 a.m.? Here in the deep south, it's light by 7 a.m. in the morning. Maybe earlier.
Shoonra
(521 posts)Blame the fiddling with DST to our special-needs president, George W. Bush. He deliberately extended Daylight Saving Time well beyond the accepted six-months on and six-months off, which throw off the changing of the batteries in smoke detectors and other rituals which had previously been timed for six month intervals. The annoyance of having to reset all the clocks an hour back (which was more difficult than an hour forward) only four months before doing the opposite probably stimulated this legislative frenzy.
Now we face an inconvenience that will run north and south, where previously it ran only east and west -- namely changing our watches and other timepieces whenever we cross a state line. TV schedules that are meaningless in the neighboring state. etc.