Trump told CBP head he'd pardon him if he were sent to jail for violating immigration law

[Pale Blue Dot]

Source: CNN

During President Donald Trump's visit to the border at Calexico, California, a week ago, where he told border agents to block asylum seekers from entering the US contrary to US law, the President also told the commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, Kevin McAleenan, that if he were sent to jail as a result of blocking those migrants from entering the US, the President would grant him a pardon, senior administration officials tell CNN.

Two officials briefed on the exchange say the President told McAleenan, since named the acting secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, that he "would pardon him if he ever went to jail for denying US entry to migrants," as one of the officials paraphrased.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/12/politics/trump-cbp-commissioner-pardon/index.html?fbclid=IwAR1DF5EpCtaNkXqv3UZjyA-AcYMAcCxflYYlgcA2dfZ1C30P0UyKOs36IDs

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More totally normal news. I forget, how often did Obama offer to pardon people if they committed felonies?

[mr_lebowski]

1. Why can't ANYBODY ever catch this kind of shit on tape, man?

Caught on tape, this would be an entirely legitimately impeachable offense. No question.

As hearsay ... from people who'd end up backing down on testifying most likely ... it's just another outrage.

People need to start figuring out ways to tape this motherf***er.

[brooklynite]

2. Perhaps the CBP Chief was thoughtfully told by his Legal Counsel...

...that accepting a Pardon would be an admission of Guilt.

[Wellstone ruled]

5. Winner winner,chicken dinner!

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. Make them lie to Congress nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

3. Impeachable Obstruction of Justice, Abuse of Power, .... . . . nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

4. That's my thought

He's openly advocating breaking the law

[cstanleytech]

7. I am thinking you are right and in this case its clear he does need to be impeached and

if the Repugnants in the Senate do not want to convict him then we should use it against them when they run for office again.

[cstanleytech]

6. Umm isnt telling someone to commit a crime and promising them a pardon for it a crime in of

itself?

[RockRaven]

16. I believe it would constitute a conspiracy to commit said crime, and the pardon would not

hold up to judicial review on the grounds that one cannot pardon a co-conspirator because it would constitute a self-pardon, which violates the principle that one cannot judge their own case.

At least that's what I've seen some lawyers claim on twitter. I'm not one, so I don't know for sure. I presume no POTUS has ever tried to pardon a co-conspirator or themselves (GHWBush and Ford both took care of that for their predecessors rather than Reagan or Nixon doing it themselves), or the media would have brought it up in regards to Trump and pardons and historical precedents.

[yaesu]

8. Like promising to pay for the defense of his thugs who beat up protesters at his rally

and yet, it would seem, its not worth impeaching him.

[Fiendish Thingy]

9. What the actual fuck?

Do we still need to worry about “the math”, or can Dems just stand up and do the right thing?

These CPB officers need to testify in front of Congress at the opening of impeachment hearings...

[cstanleytech]

11. Agreed. Granted the Repugnants in the Senate will not vote to convict him but it puts

each of them that votes not to do so on record as supporting criminal activity by a government official.

[tanyev]

12. Oh, and if you break the law for Donny Dipshit, be prepared that he won't remember any of this

when the time for pardon signing comes.

[LuckyLib]

13. Lock him up! Please, somebody!

[elfin]

14. I think he WANTS to be impeached -- but not convicted, of course

Just to get his fight on, for more rallies for this poor persecuted President, to make fun of every member of the House in personal terms, to distract from his many other very real evils, to avoid anything of substance being developed as legislation that will be quashed by Mitch or his veto and on and on and on.

Speaker Pelosi is right to avoid this IMO unless her Senate vote count is different than I suspect, and in the hellish event he actually wins in 2020, THEN bring the sledgehammer down in such copious detail and charges that he will have little time to do anything but try to save his butt.

Also with sidebar investigations and hearings to go after Miller and others. I believe all of this can happen after a loss by him, causing him to be a private citizen, still liable for many transgressions.

Trump's heartbeat depends on the energy of hate and paranoia. Those traits have served him well in his long-time survival against the odds. Take the prospect of an impeachment trial off the table (until after 2020) and you have taken the biggest event away from him to make the biggest fight that will help keep his evil heart beating.

[Thunderbeast]

15. Abuse of Power

was one of the Articles of Impeachment voted out of the Judiciary Committee against Richard Nixon. Obstruction of Justice was was the second. The third dealt with corruption.

[kentuck]

17. Isn't it time to stop grading on a curve?

If any other President were to say something like this, it would be all hell to pay.

But, it's Donald Trump and we're supposed to cut him some slack?

Fuck him!

[calimary]

20. No kidding.

It’s the Curve to Hell.

[srobertss]

18. If the witnesses will testify...

...it’s time to impeach. I sort of hate to watch him and his base become more unhinged as a result, when there’s no chance of conviction. But the law is the law and we have to honor it regardless. I just contacted my congressmen and voiced my support for impeachment. Impeachment would make it easier to get the tax returns and the Mueller Report as well.

[3Hotdogs]

19. The time to begin impeachment hearing is Sept. 2020.

[riversedge]

21. Too late. I think it should be now.