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Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:00 PM Feb 2019

New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged as a 'john' in human trafficking/prostitution invest

Source: NBC5 Cleveland

Posted: 11:50 AM, Feb 22, 2019 Updated: 3 minutes ago
By: WPTV


New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged as a 'john' in human trafficking/prostitution investigation

In his Tuesday news conference about a major human trafficking investigation , Martin County Sheriff William Snyder said about 100 men would be arrested.

When asked about prominent people or celebrities, Snyder said, “There will be a newsmaker in this one.”

Read more: https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/national/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-as-a-john-in-human-trafficking-prostitution-investigation

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New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged as a 'john' in human trafficking/prostitution invest (Original Post) Chicago1980 Feb 2019 OP
Trump moral values. earthside Feb 2019 #1
i was going to say that .:) AllaN01Bear Feb 2019 #45
Wow. I wonder if he knows Epstein. dameatball Feb 2019 #2
I just click this thread and thought the same thing.... Hotler Feb 2019 #71
Same to you. People that frequent these places don't just decide to do it after age 70. Kraft may dameatball Feb 2019 #79
Raise your hand if you are surprised a Putin pal and Trump toady was involved? RockRaven Feb 2019 #3
Thought this was a dem crime? Traildogbob Feb 2019 #15
GOPP...GRAND OLD PROJECTION PARTY. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2019 #52
Lock him up! nt SunSeeker Feb 2019 #4
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy FakeNoose Feb 2019 #5
LOL Scurrilous Feb 2019 #6
He's now qualified to be in the Trump cabinet NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #7
.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #30
Oh yeah, he's highly qualified to run the Dept of Labor considering Ilsa Feb 2019 #50
Oh, gawd. At the risk of overdosing on schadenfreude... hlthe2b Feb 2019 #8
i give him credit for realizing they needed to turn to a pro to handle their balls properly. unblock Feb 2019 #9
Hmmmmm. democratisphere Feb 2019 #10
Kraft was not there for himself... louis c Feb 2019 #11
At least he is paying for it, rather than just grabbing it like some people we know. Canoe52 Feb 2019 #12
These Trump people are the absolute filth of the earth. God damn them all!! C Moon Feb 2019 #13
AGREE fully here bluestarone Feb 2019 #16
Kompromat mobeau69 Feb 2019 #14
+1 EveHammond13 Feb 2019 #22
Lots of 'deflated balls' jokes on Twitter right now Jose Garcia Feb 2019 #17
He Has $6.6B, So Guessing He Can Buy His Way Out! DoctorJoJo Feb 2019 #18
With that kind of money, what's he doing paying $59 in the first place? louis c Feb 2019 #23
Watch how FAST a net worth of $6B gets him a different kind of justice....... Bengus81 Feb 2019 #19
Presidential pardon time? Miles Archer Feb 2019 #20
These are state / county charges.... getagrip_already Feb 2019 #58
Hmm. Trafficking also involved. My guess is that this is more damaging charge and some cover up allgood33 Feb 2019 #21
Wonder if Mueller's gotten trump on those kinds of crimes also. duforsure Feb 2019 #24
The bigger question... moonseller66 Feb 2019 #25
The NFL owners were quick to hustle Jerry Richardson out the exit door of their little club RockRaven Feb 2019 #34
It will be interesting to see what Goodell does DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #73
Update: Kraft Lawyer denies the charges brooklynite Feb 2019 #26
And why can't Mr. Kraft HIMSELF catergorically deny it? rocktivity Feb 2019 #61
In fairness, any Lawyer worth his salt will tell his defendant to keep his mouth shut... brooklynite Feb 2019 #62
Then the lawyer should have kept his mouth shut, too rocktivity Feb 2019 #72
Dumb move DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #74
I've met him and his late wife. gldstwmn Feb 2019 #27
They married? Thought they were just he'n and she'n.......... Bengus81 Feb 2019 #46
He didn't marry her? She had a kid with him. gldstwmn Feb 2019 #48
Interesting article on the subject.... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2019 #65
Classy. He must have gone to the spa gldstwmn Feb 2019 #67
Kraft is Bff of Rupert and Cheeto bronxiteforever Feb 2019 #28
Talk about a cheap skate..... getagrip_already Feb 2019 #29
You said d_r Feb 2019 #76
lol - didn't even think of that... n/t getagrip_already Feb 2019 #78
Serves him right. Myra turning over in her grave.* BostonBlue Feb 2019 #31
All about Kraft. Nothing about the Chinese women being trafficked. Squinch Feb 2019 #32
Without Kraft there would be no press exboyfil Feb 2019 #57
"Without Kraft there would be no press." Uh, yes. Exactly. Squinch Feb 2019 #68
No schadenfreude here SpankMe Feb 2019 #33
There are photos of the johns gldstwmn Feb 2019 #38
Bothsiderism where there is none lunatica Feb 2019 #75
I live on the Treasure Coast, there were busts in all the dewsgirl Feb 2019 #35
This isn't a joke. Trafficking is brutal, violent and deadly. 58Sunliner Feb 2019 #36
One of the articles I read notes that gldstwmn Feb 2019 #39
That is why the story might have legs for Kraft exboyfil Feb 2019 #56
Having a celebrity caught up in it might help draw attention to the problem IronLionZion Feb 2019 #64
Right now Smollett is saying "THANK YOU GOD!" Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #37
Am I wrong to gloat about this? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #40
It seems the GOP is running the real pedophile ring. UCmeNdc Feb 2019 #41
It's always projection with them deurbano Feb 2019 #42
And it is most often Deliberate and Planned. MarcA Feb 2019 #54
But Hillary's campaign had meetings at pizza parlors IronLionZion Feb 2019 #66
Good Ol' Republican Christian family values! Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #43
Did the Pats do their WH visit from the latest SuperBowl win yet? Because if not, RockRaven Feb 2019 #44
I think the visit is probably off exboyfil Feb 2019 #53
Trump was right,we need a WALL......... around Robert Kraft Bengus81 Feb 2019 #47
Now we know what they mean by the Patriot way. MooDrew Feb 2019 #49
Jussie sends a thank you card to Kraft exboyfil Feb 2019 #51
Will he be taking a "date" to the White House? world wide wally Feb 2019 #55
UPDATE: Police say they have video evidence brooklynite Feb 2019 #59
Who are you gonna believe, Robert Kraft or your lying eyes? RockRaven Feb 2019 #60
Trafficking not just in prostitution in America - other businesses as well. KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2019 #63
I think it's kinda sad. trof Feb 2019 #69
He likes asian girls Baclava Feb 2019 #70
UPDATE: Another New England-based billionaire was caught in the net rocktivity Feb 2019 #77
It kinda makes you wonder if they are getting freebies or steep discounts Lars39 Feb 2019 #80
Freebies, discounts rocktivity Feb 2019 #81
Yep :-( Lars39 Feb 2019 #83
Was Brady in on it? B Stieg Feb 2019 #82
He is now LOL rocktivity Feb 2019 #85
Update: Arrest Reports Released rocktivity Feb 2019 #84

dameatball

(7,395 posts)
79. Same to you. People that frequent these places don't just decide to do it after age 70. Kraft may
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:41 AM
Feb 2019

have been participating in such things way back when.

RockRaven

(14,912 posts)
3. Raise your hand if you are surprised a Putin pal and Trump toady was involved?
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:06 PM
Feb 2019

And, given their public association w/ Trump and long-time relationship with Kraft, I think it is fair to ask if Belichick or Brady have been involved too, whether or not they are charged in this case...

Traildogbob

(8,684 posts)
15. Thought this was a dem crime?
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:23 PM
Feb 2019

Was there a pizza basement involved? Theses assholes have taken deflection to a whole new level. Everything......everything they accuse dems of, they have or are doing. Christian republiKKKlan morals are a freakin joke. Makes me want to become a real Jesus type Christian, cause all the repub Christians will be dwelling in hell, if it is real. That is a much bigger religious fear to make people bow to a sky ghost to me than just the dry heat with a horned, bifocated tailed red man. Eternity with trumpanzees and 24/7 Fox. That IS hell.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
50. Oh yeah, he's highly qualified to run the Dept of Labor considering
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:22 PM
Feb 2019

his employment of trafficked sex workers.

hlthe2b

(102,139 posts)
8. Oh, gawd. At the risk of overdosing on schadenfreude...
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:08 PM
Feb 2019

Oh, well, I'll just let it hang out there (just as Kraft apparently did....

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
11. Kraft was not there for himself...
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:13 PM
Feb 2019

Bob was probably just shopping for something to bring to the White House visit to give to Trump.

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
19. Watch how FAST a net worth of $6B gets him a different kind of justice.......
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:38 PM
Feb 2019

They won't do shit to that old fuck Trump supporter.

 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
21. Hmm. Trafficking also involved. My guess is that this is more damaging charge and some cover up
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:42 PM
Feb 2019

will be involved for the big names.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
25. The bigger question...
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:47 PM
Feb 2019

is how will Roger Goodell and the NFL handle this. It's a major embarrassment. Way above a black QB kneeling to state a point and has been ostracized from the league.
After Ray Rice, Burfict, Kaepernick, the Patriots accused of cheating, cheating and NFL destroying the tapes and the deflated balls destroyed cell phone of Brady that was ignored.

Black eye for the New F'n League.

RockRaven

(14,912 posts)
34. The NFL owners were quick to hustle Jerry Richardson out the exit door of their little club
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:58 PM
Feb 2019

for sexual harassment and racial bigotry... and without creating a hierarchy/ranking of bad and worse actions, I think it is fair to say that doing any differently with Kraft would be hypocritical.

But I'm virtually certain they WILL react differently. And that's a bad look. Tolerating soliciting prostitution from a human-trafficking victim? Jesus, that's a VERY BAD look.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
73. It will be interesting to see what Goodell does
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 05:27 AM
Feb 2019

given that's he and Kraft are pals. Goodell conveniently had the spy tapes of NE cheating destroyed. Richardson was quietly forced out at Carolina and, iirc, Irsay in Indy was suspended for something (DUI maybe), too.

But as a non-Patriots fan, ha ha ha ha ha

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
61. And why can't Mr. Kraft HIMSELF catergorically deny it?
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:46 PM
Feb 2019

Worried about it being held against him in a court of law?


rocktivity

brooklynite

(94,368 posts)
62. In fairness, any Lawyer worth his salt will tell his defendant to keep his mouth shut...
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:49 PM
Feb 2019

...exception for Donald Trump of course...

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
72. Then the lawyer should have kept his mouth shut, too
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 11:01 PM
Feb 2019

Last edited Fri May 24, 2019, 09:00 PM - Edit history (4)

or said something more generic, like "Mr. Kraft is eagerly looking forward to achieving his exoneration" -- particularly since Mr. Kraft has been charged with doing something illegal twice.


rocktivity

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
27. I've met him and his late wife.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:48 PM
Feb 2019

They were awful. This doesn't surprise me one bit. Wonder how his new, younger wife is taking the news.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
48. He didn't marry her? She had a kid with him.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:06 PM
Feb 2019

They live together. 6 billion buys a lot of understanding I guess.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
65. Interesting article on the subject....
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:05 PM
Feb 2019
Despite rumors, Robert Kraft is not the father of his on-again, off-again girlfriend’s baby, spokesman says

Read here: https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/names/2018/02/28/robert-kraft-again-off-again-girlfriend-had-baby-and-may-may-not-his/UzuaAsjCYbF5kJrOl4cH0N/story.html?p1=BGMenu_Article

Amazing what being a billionaire can buy for you. Personally, I don't trust a word that comes out of their mouths (or from their lawyers).

...........

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
28. Kraft is Bff of Rupert and Cheeto
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:49 PM
Feb 2019

Robert Kraft praises Donald Trump and Rupert Murdoch in Fox News interview
Kraft called the Fox News founder "one of the most outstanding human beings on the planet."

Kraft has described Trump as a “very close” friend with whom he’s had a relationship with for more than two decades.

https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2019/02/01/robert-kraft-donald-trump-rupert-murdoch-fox-news-video

getagrip_already

(14,647 posts)
29. Talk about a cheap skate.....
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:49 PM
Feb 2019

So the guy is worth BILLIONS and he goes to a day spa? Wtf?

Too cheap to get a hotel room and have a high end call girl brought in by an aide like most normal billionaires?

Day spas are the fast food drive through's of the sex worker industry. Cheap, quick, low quality (no, I don't have first hand experience), but safe and convenient.

Why would a guy worth billions bother? Then again, why would a POTUS with a 5 star michelin chef paid for by us have him cook burgers and fries and eat kobi steak well done with ketchup?

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
57. Without Kraft there would be no press
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:31 PM
Feb 2019

His involvement might actually help advance the more important story.

Squinch

(50,918 posts)
68. "Without Kraft there would be no press." Uh, yes. Exactly.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:26 PM
Feb 2019

Those who were NOT raped by Kraft have been no less raped.

But the only REAL story that our media cares about is that Kraft was involved.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
33. No schadenfreude here
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:54 PM
Feb 2019

Whether the john is a conservative whack-job or a liberal, I am truly saddened that there are trafficking victims at all. Conservatives don't have a monopoly on being creeps. We don't know the names of the other 99 johns. There could be a progressive known character in there as well.

(If there is, you can be sure the despicable Tucker Carlson will find them.)

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
38. There are photos of the johns
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:17 PM
Feb 2019

and some of the women arrested on one of the Palm Beach websites along with their names. The majority of them seem to be elderly white guys.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
75. Bothsiderism where there is none
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:46 AM
Feb 2019

What makes you think anyone is hiding the name of some high profile Democrat? When was the last time you heard of a Democrat frequenting sex outlets in human trafficking?

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
35. I live on the Treasure Coast, there were busts in all the
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:14 PM
Feb 2019

TC counties, including mine. We knew there would be higher ups involved. I was thinking local government, I had no idea it would be that high.
It was kinda funny last night our tax advisor, said something like you'll be surprised, while we were talking about Trump. Color me quite surprised, I wonder how she knew it would be someone in the Trump orbit?

58Sunliner

(4,372 posts)
36. This isn't a joke. Trafficking is brutal, violent and deadly.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:15 PM
Feb 2019
To everyone making a joke about prostitution, this isn't prostitution. It's abuse, torture, kidnapping and sometimes a death sentence.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
56. That is why the story might have legs for Kraft
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:29 PM
Feb 2019

If it is a high priced call girl who comes to your room, that is one thing. This is something else.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
64. Having a celebrity caught up in it might help draw attention to the problem
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:02 PM
Feb 2019

which should eventually help the women who have been abused and kidnapped for the pleasure of rich assholes.

Many states have stepped up human trafficking investigations and passed laws to help prosecute more people who profit from this including the websites used.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,758 posts)
40. Am I wrong to gloat about this?
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:19 PM
Feb 2019

Kraft is a friend of Trump's and an owner of a rival NFL franchise. I think those are two good reasons.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
41. It seems the GOP is running the real pedophile ring.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:25 PM
Feb 2019

They always project their vices on the Democratic candidates.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
42. It's always projection with them
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:32 PM
Feb 2019

Clinton Foundation! Executive overreach! Stealing elections! Adultery! Obama is a narcissist! Sucking at the government teat! Government corruption! Drain the swamp! Deficit spending! (Where is that Tea Party now?)

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
54. And it is most often Deliberate and Planned.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:27 PM
Feb 2019

It is part of their nature to be so corrupt. Many are beyond reform.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
66. But Hillary's campaign had meetings at pizza parlors
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:07 PM
Feb 2019

and kids love pizza, so pizzagate!

GOP projects their sins onto us and they are also deeply repressed and sexually frustrated people. Makes you wonder if this rich asshole was just too dumb to call up whatever private escort services the other rich assholes use.

RockRaven

(14,912 posts)
44. Did the Pats do their WH visit from the latest SuperBowl win yet? Because if not,
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:53 PM
Feb 2019

that's a hell of a photo-op. We know how much Trump loves his photo-ops.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
53. I think the visit is probably off
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:26 PM
Feb 2019

I bet there are a lot of ticked off individuals in the Patriots organization right now. Talk about riding high and then crashing.

 

MooDrew

(41 posts)
49. Now we know what they mean by the Patriot way.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:12 PM
Feb 2019

Since conservatives said Kap was disrespecting the flag and America's wholesome family time by kneeling, shouldn't we say Kraft is disrespecting the flag and America's wholesome family time by ejaculating on it?

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
63. Trafficking not just in prostitution in America - other businesses as well.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:55 PM
Feb 2019

Human trafficking - including that of children - is part of our dark underbelly that's kept hidden from the public, and the public doesn't seem to care so long as the receive their product or service. Our citizens need to be better educated on this issue so authorities can be tipped-off when appropriate.

Children are trafficked for adoption, for labor and for prostitution, while workers are trafficked for labor in many sectors including food service, fishing, farming, nail/hair/massage salons, prostitution and many others.

I salute our investigators, prosecutors and related enforcement personnel going after these criminals....

trof

(54,256 posts)
69. I think it's kinda sad.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 08:18 PM
Feb 2019

The guy's a septuagenarian billionaire and he's paying for what sounds like a "happy ending" in a sleazy massage parlor in a cheap strip mall in Ft. Lauderdale.
He's 'dating' an 'actress' half his age, but he is single.


The local cops were suspicious about the place and somehow put in hidden cameras.
Evidently they have the tapes.


He was pretty stupid.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
70. He likes asian girls
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:01 PM
Feb 2019

The spa is owned by 58-year-old Hua Zhang, who reportedly is facing nearly 30 charges following the investigation.

Police found women were engaging in sexual acts, averaging eight clients a day and 1,500 men a year, with no days off

https://www.nj.com/giants/2019/02/ro...ge-parlor.html

Lars39

(26,107 posts)
80. It kinda makes you wonder if they are getting freebies or steep discounts
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:44 AM
Feb 2019

because they personally have a stake in these places, or they know the owners.
Those poor women.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
85. He is now LOL
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:49 PM
Feb 2019
TMZ: ...(I)n the wake of...(the)...Robert Kraft prostitution scandal...Tom Brady hug(s) his boss Monday morning after flying with him on a private jet from L.A. to Boston...




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