Petition to sell Montana to Canada is gaining support
Source: News5cleveland
Posted: 9:41 PM, Feb 19, 2019 Updated: 12 minutes ago
By: Justin Boggs
With the national debt continuing to grow, a group of citizens have created an online petition in hopes of selling Montana to Canada in hopes of reducing the United States' debt.
Nearly 10,000 people have signed a petition on Change.org in the last week that supports selling the Treasure State for $1 trillion to Canada. While $1 trillion is a hefty price tag, the overall United States deficit passed $22 trillion last week.
The US debt has grown on average by at least $ 1 trillion a year in recent years.
While Montana is the fourth-largest state in area, it is only 44th-most populated state in the United States with a total population of 1.06 million. Estimates of Montana's annual economic production are around $45 billion.
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TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)onetexan
(13,037 posts)at this point we'd be under better leadership. Trudeau is HOT, and SMART
DBoon
(22,362 posts)we've already been sold to Russia
area51
(11,908 posts)will ever mature enough to consider healthcare a basic human right. Too many people don't know how to do simple research or do critical thinking, and that other countries' healthcare systems can't be as bad as the right says, or else their citizens would rebel.
walkingman
(7,604 posts)We weren't always this backasswards - it started in '94 with "W" and has gone downhill since.
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)rownesheck
(2,343 posts)I'd like to be a Canadian citizen.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)We have more people than Montana, and not as many grizzly bears.
the_sly_pig
(741 posts)Just think, socialized medicine !
GatoGordo
(2,412 posts)In exchange for some islands off Maine.
kurtcagle
(1,602 posts)Washington State is considered by most people outside of the US to be a southern Canadian colony. Indeed, from Seattle, it's actually closer to Vancouver, BC, than it is Vancouver, WA. 4I suspect many of us in Seattle, Tacoma, Olympia and Portland, OR would jump at the chance to be part of Canada. I know I would.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)hay rick
(7,607 posts)William Seger
(10,778 posts)hauweg
(98 posts)catrose
(5,065 posts)volstork
(5,400 posts)to Russia?
Oh, wait.......
Thekaspervote
(32,757 posts)cstanleytech
(26,286 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)turbinetree
(24,695 posts)and then there was the "Jade Helm" BS in Texas..........................
Maybe people in this country instead of selling your state, and having Congressional members basically selling you out with tax cuts, maybe you should think that the people that have all of the money should pay their taxes on the income they make.................................
Just ask the Walton's how much they paid in taxes or Jeff Bezo's.......................that you are subsidizing ..................absolutely amazing.......................
Juneboarder
(1,732 posts)This division of CA has been a long standing debate in our state for decades. I've always said we should secede with OR and WA and start over.
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)Right after we secede we can send all Republicans away legally.
Juneboarder
(1,732 posts)I doubt it would ever happen, but we are so much different on the west coast in comparison with the rest of the country in so many ways. Well, I should say "most" of the rest of the country. There are some states that share the same sentiments as we do politically speaking.
pecosbob
(7,537 posts)I might be convinced to part with Florida if they take all the idiots there and promise to not let them return.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)pecosbob
(7,537 posts)It's mostly liable to be underwater in twenty years
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)In the meantime, I'd prefer to... oh wait... Canada!
pecosbob
(7,537 posts)radical noodle
(8,000 posts)And we'd still be warm, which is why I moved here.
Sancho
(9,067 posts)at least in Feb.
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)This would almost triple it by adding $1.35 trillion after the conversion. I don't think we'll take that deal.
George II
(67,782 posts)...so many more red states.
The problem with that is Canada really doesn't want Montana.
Wabbajack_
(1,300 posts)I doubt Congress or the people of Montana are interested in selling even if someone was buying.
BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)to drive to Canada for health care. As a native Montanan, I heartily second this movement. Having grown up 40 miles from the porous border that my English grandfather walked across in 1910 ... and stayed ... thus becoming an "illegal" and having watched CBC during many of my formative years (US channels didn't have strong enough signals in those days), I've always considered myself somewhat Canadian.
In fact, many US Easterners ask me if I am. Apparently my accent is more akin to Canadian-speak than to US-speak.
But even if the obstacles you mention were no longer obstacles, I doubt very much that Canada would take MT, especially at the price requested.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Our Gross Domestic Product is $400 billion, so that's nine times more than Montana's. How about Canada pays $4 trillion for Maryland and breaks even in 10 years. Plus we have a lot of US Government facilities here, which can be rented back to the government for additional profit, just like Trump does.
Roadside Attraction
(238 posts). . . and throw in Bernie as a bonus.
House of Roberts
(5,168 posts)Dee Bishop (Dean Martin): Mace, you think we could make a go of it in Montana?
Mace Bishop (Jimmy Stewart): Dee, there's a town up there called Missoula. Prettiest little place you ever saw.
Dee Bishop: What about the Indians?
Mace Bishop: And the Rockies, they're snow-capped, and the slopes are forested. And there are lots of lakes and valleys.
Dee Bishop: What about the Indians?
Mace Bishop: And there's deer in Montana, Dee. And antelope, and elk, and black bear. And the...
Dee Bishop: Mace, what about the Indians?
Mace Bishop: What Indians?
Dee Bishop: Ain't there no Indians in Montana?
Mace Bishop: Well, they - a few.
Dee Bishop: Ain't the Northern Cheyenne in Montana?
Mace Bishop: The Nor - well, Northern Cheyenne in Mon - I, I wouldn't lie to you.
Dee Bishop: And the Crow, and the Sioux?
Mace Bishop: Well, they're around...
Dee Bishop: What else, Mace?
Mace Bishop: Listen, Dee...
Dee Bishop: What else?
Mace Bishop: Well, they, they - Blackfeet and Chippewa...
Dee Bishop: Some Cree?
Mace Bishop: Yes. Yes, there are Cree in Montana.
Dee Bishop: And the Shoshone, and the Kutenai, and the Stoney...
Mace Bishop: Just what are you tryin' to say?
Dee Bishop: I'm trying to say there's a lot of gosh-darn Indians in Montana, Mace!
BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)Having spent some of my happier adult years teaching in Missoula (VERY blue area of the state), I can recommend it. And the reservation of the Confederated Tribes (Flathead, Salish Kootenay) is right next door en route to Flathead Lake. The other tribes are farther afield.
One of my BILs is part Eastern Shoshone and enrolled as such.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)I wouldnt have made it these past two years if it werent. Whered you teach in Zoo-town?
BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)at the U of M, then taught at MCHS (Sentinel) for several years.
Loved my students, colleagues and the area! I was born and raised in the north-central part of the state east of the Rockies, about 40 miles from the border with Canada. We used to refer to Missoula as "tropical Montana," because the temperatures were comparatively milder there, whereas we usually had to use head-bolt heaters in the winter for our cars to start.
The state was MUCH bluer in my youth, with Mike Mansfield, Lee Metcalf and Pat Williams representing us in DC. From this, you can deduce that my heyday there was a LONG time ago.
I haven't lived in Missoula since 1980, although I visit the state as often as I can to see family, friends and just to experience the Big Sky.
My sons, who spent much of their own youth there, STILL consider the state home, although one now lives in MD and the other splits his time between Las Vegas and LA. Both are strong Dems, I am very happy to say!
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)2naSalit
(86,572 posts)MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)Not a day goes by that Im not thanking the universe for the beauty I see around me...I might be cursing the snow at the same time but Im still thankful.
ornotna
(10,800 posts)2naSalit
(86,572 posts)Lives right down the road from me.
procon
(15,805 posts)To sweeten the deal I even pay them a generous bounty for every MAGA hat wearing Texan they can persuade to immigrate to Mexico.
2naSalit
(86,572 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Radical idea, I know....
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,339 posts)As long as Canadian citizenship is granted to us residents of MI. We can use the benefits.
littlemissmartypants
(22,632 posts)It's such a strange shape. Do you think anyone would make an offer?
J/K
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)I wish someone would sell it to Canada!
MissouriLibrul
(35 posts)Two states are better than one. Missouri + Illinois: SOLD to the Canadians with their fancy healthcare for all and their status as the #1 country in the world for quality of life. (Ohplease, ohplease, ohplease...).
Bayard
(22,062 posts)Just give them the whole U.S. No money necessary. Free healthcare, and Justin Trudeau is so easy on the eyes......
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)Gonna be a (Canadian) dental floss tycoon.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Or maybe just give them away.
Paladin
(28,254 posts)And it's a hell of a lot closer to Canada than Florida or my state of residence, Texas.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)with Trump as their leader.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)I am from WI, my family founded Quebec.
LOVE Trudeau not to mention the healthcare being thrown in.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Response to empedocles (Reply #53)
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pwb
(11,261 posts).
meatwitheyes
(8 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,419 posts)We're going to call our Republic, COW, and we'll hold our constitutional convention in the Cow Palace.