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marble falls

(57,350 posts)
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 08:57 AM Dec 2018

Jeff Flake Won't Rule Out 2020 Run: 'Somebody Needs To' Challenge Trump

Source: HuffPo


Jeff Flake Won’t Rule Out 2020 Run: ‘Somebody Needs To’ Challenge Trump

“Like I said, I haven’t ruled it out,” he said. “I’m a long way from there, but somebody needs to and I think that the country needs to be reminded of what it means to be conservative.”

By Amy Russo

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-flake-2020_us_5c2740e4e4b08aaf7a90cd27

Outgoing Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) is leaving Congress in the coming days, but he isn’t yet crossing a presidential run off his list of possibilities.

<snip>

“Like I said, I haven’t ruled it out,” Flake said. “I’m a long way from there, but somebody needs to and I think that the country needs to be reminded of what it means to be conservative, certainly on the Republican side, and what it means to be decent as well, because we need a lot more of that in our politics.”

<snip>

Flake, who has had an openly tumultuous relationship with Trump, criticized him for blaming Democrats for the federal government shutdown, which has now entered its eighth day as Congress remains in a standoff over a spending bill including money to build a border wall.

“Anytime you stand and say ‘I own the shutdown,’ then you own it,” he told Acosta, adding,”‘Shutdown 101’ tells you ‘shift the blame if you can.’ And when the president immediately said, ‘I’ll take the blame,’ then he’s got it.”

Read more: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-flake-2020_us_5c2740e4e4b08aaf7a90cd27



He will take a nomination but he'll never be elected. Why did he almost always vote with cheetolini???
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Jeff Flake Won't Rule Out 2020 Run: 'Somebody Needs To' Challenge Trump (Original Post) marble falls Dec 2018 OP
file this under snowball, chance in hell, smoking crack beachbum bob Dec 2018 #1
lol Cha Dec 2018 #43
You had your chance to challenge Trump, douchenozzle. Dave Starsky Dec 2018 #2
FLAKE gave into Trump too often. He is scared to death of Trump. trueblue2007 Dec 2018 #32
Next we will have Scarsdale Dec 2018 #3
That would be a riot The Genealogist Dec 2018 #22
Won't be you Pal. You are too wrapped up in him irisblue Dec 2018 #4
A man who's true to his name. djacq Dec 2018 #5
Someone with a spine should challenge tRump. JudyM Dec 2018 #6
Doesn't matter if they have "spine" or not. You and I won't be voting for her/him! .... marble falls Dec 2018 #9
"I think that the country needs to be reminded of what it means to be conservative." Ohiogal Dec 2018 #7
Do you remember when Jeff stood up to Trump and voted against Kavanaugh? Botany Dec 2018 #8
Do you also remember him standing up to cheeto's "tax reform"? marble falls Dec 2018 #10
Or when he said the rule of law and our Constitution are the bedrock of our democracy and fought ... Botany Dec 2018 #13
I must have been napping again. Or the day he tried to release his tax returns and ... marble falls Dec 2018 #16
Exactly! Ohiogal Dec 2018 #20
Who didn't see this coming? llmart Dec 2018 #11
What a shock tavernier Dec 2018 #12
Good one LakeArenal Dec 2018 #37
Outline of a debate between Trump and Flake TlalocW Dec 2018 #14
Fuck flake. The only thing he is a challenge to is morality, integrity, honesty etc. Augiedog Dec 2018 #15
I hope gets the GOP 2020 nomination. nt NCjack Dec 2018 #17
I think we can only expect Flake to be flake, he will not actually do this. FM123 Dec 2018 #18
That would be grand. Cha Dec 2018 #44
Well Sherman A1 Dec 2018 #19
NO Thank you........................you failed when you voted for your Supreme Court assholes turbinetree Dec 2018 #21
THIS. area51 Dec 2018 #28
Flake always flakes, over and over and over again IronLionZion Dec 2018 #23
I just woke up and needed a laugh to start the day. Thanks for posting! Canoe52 Dec 2018 #24
It boggles the mind to think that he thinks he has any kind of chance. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #25
No thanks. We already have a flake in the WH. NT El Mimbreno Dec 2018 #26
Flake has proven to be spineless. bitterross Dec 2018 #27
Flake is more full of shit than the bran flakes I had for breakfast! 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2018 #29
Flake and others like Kascih Mendocino Dec 2018 #30
His name suits him. alphafemale Dec 2018 #31
Challenge Trump? The time to do that was with Kavanaugh and Gorsuch however instead he proved cstanleytech Dec 2018 #33
Can't see him carrying the vote - he'll split the mealy-mouthed, wishy-wash ballot Mr. Ected Dec 2018 #34
He is way too moderate Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2018 #35
My bet is that Flake would not be in it to win, but weaken Trump so Trump loses the race to a Dem. Hekate Dec 2018 #36
do it RussBLib Dec 2018 #38
Much better Repub candidate - for us NotASurfer Dec 2018 #39
FLAKE/COLLINS 2020!! Greybnk48 Dec 2018 #40
They shouldn't bother booking victory party room. I hope they spend every penny ... marble falls Dec 2018 #41
Someone will. They're called Democrats. DrToast Dec 2018 #42
Please Do, Jeff BaronChocula Dec 2018 #45
I completely support Republicans challenging Trump for the nomination Zing Zing Zingbah Dec 2018 #46

trueblue2007

(17,240 posts)
32. FLAKE gave into Trump too often. He is scared to death of Trump.
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 03:54 PM
Dec 2018

FLAKE gave into Trump too often. He is scared to death of Trump. He could not even run again for senate in his own state!! His own state is against him. Flake is just another GOP whiner.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
3. Next we will have
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:11 AM
Dec 2018

Susan Collins announcing her run. Both of them talked a good talk, then caved to tRump. Maybe the country will get lucky and Santorum, Christie or Gingrich will announce their candidacy? What we desperately need now is a Democratic president to clean up the gop mess, like they usually do.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
22. That would be a riot
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:32 AM
Dec 2018

They could call her 2020 election campaign "The Terribly Concerned Susan Collins Medicine Show" where we will all see her almost drop her handbag all the time and jack up the melodrama to 11. Maybe there is still a 1920s era movie theater pianist around to play that great "Perils of Pauline" type dramatic piano to accompany her. Now with 25% more diminished minor chords!

marble falls

(57,350 posts)
9. Doesn't matter if they have "spine" or not. You and I won't be voting for her/him! ....
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:04 AM
Dec 2018

We've got one of the best lineups of Democratic possibilities of all time.

Ohiogal

(32,112 posts)
7. "I think that the country needs to be reminded of what it means to be conservative."
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:58 AM
Dec 2018

Jeffy, many of you have already shown us what it means to be conservative.

You wring your hands, say you're "concerned", mumble a few words about how whatever Trump said or did is "wrong" ....

Then you slink back under your rocks and vote yes on his whole Fascist agenda.

No, thanks, Pal

marble falls

(57,350 posts)
10. Do you also remember him standing up to cheeto's "tax reform"?
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:08 AM
Dec 2018

We must have been busy with something else.

Botany

(70,606 posts)
13. Or when he said the rule of law and our Constitution are the bedrock of our democracy and fought ...
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:14 AM
Dec 2018

.... McConnell so Merrick Garland could get a vote to be on the Supreme Court?

marble falls

(57,350 posts)
16. I must have been napping again. Or the day he tried to release his tax returns and ...
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:18 AM
Dec 2018

everybody went "meh."?

llmart

(15,556 posts)
11. Who didn't see this coming?
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:10 AM
Dec 2018

Not only is he a Flake; he's a fake, trying to pretend he was anti-Trump when all along he kowtowed to the orange anus.

I hope he and Collins are just a rare footnote in history books.

tavernier

(12,409 posts)
12. What a shock
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:10 AM
Dec 2018

said no one ever.

Did he think his fence straddling wasn’t being laughed at by both parties?

TlalocW

(15,392 posts)
14. Outline of a debate between Trump and Flake
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:15 AM
Dec 2018

Trump answers the question first
Trump (lying): Blah-blah-blah.
Flake: I agree with the president.

Flake answers the question first:
Flake: I think blah-blah-blah, and President Trump has failed to do so.
Trump (lying): Actually, my administration has blah-blah-blah. <Insults Flake>
Flake: I would like to retract my previous statement and say I wholeheartedly support the president.

eventually morphs into

Flake answers the question first:
Flake: What are your thoughts on this, Mister President?
Trump (lying): Blah-blah-blah.
Flake: My thoughts exactly.

TlalocW

FM123

(10,054 posts)
18. I think we can only expect Flake to be flake, he will not actually do this.
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:27 AM
Dec 2018

That being said, if some repug decided to run as an independent and not a repug, that would split off some of trumpy's votes....

turbinetree

(24,726 posts)
21. NO Thank you........................you failed when you voted for your Supreme Court assholes
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:32 AM
Dec 2018

you know the one that was in clear violation of the Articles of Advise and Consent..............which you just fucking disregarded, and then there was the #2 who is a fucking sexual predator, and #3 do you remember the man on the plane by the name of Ady Barkan, here let me remind you on just how fucking demented and sick you are, when someone was asking you for some empathy to heath care.........................





.....................and you think you can be a leader..............nice try asshole.....................but we will get someone that has more principles..................people should not have to beg asshole.................

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
25. It boggles the mind to think that he thinks he has any kind of chance.
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 12:18 PM
Dec 2018

He's unpopular with his own party, and he sure as heck won't get Democratic or the majority of the Independent vote.

It's true he was one of the few who spoke out against Trump, which cost him dearly. But when push came to shove, he voted for Trump backed bills.

The vote to send the vote for Kavanaugh to the full Senate killed any kind of chance he had. He can't win with only Republicans, and that killed any hope to get any other vote.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
27. Flake has proven to be spineless.
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 01:04 PM
Dec 2018

This new, of course, is not news. He unwillingness to vote against Kavanaugh made it clear he had further aspirations.

cstanleytech

(26,332 posts)
33. Challenge Trump? The time to do that was with Kavanaugh and Gorsuch however instead he proved
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 04:04 PM
Dec 2018

he like the rest of the Repugnants in office have no backbone.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
34. Can't see him carrying the vote - he'll split the mealy-mouthed, wishy-wash ballot
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 05:21 PM
Dec 2018

50/50 with Susan Collins, should she run.

I'm sure both of them are very concerned, very concerned too.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,756 posts)
35. He is way too moderate
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 05:34 PM
Dec 2018

This extremist party doesnt want anything to do with moderation. Otherwise Kasich or Huntsman would have racked up more than a couple of percentage points in the last Republican primary.

Hekate

(90,858 posts)
36. My bet is that Flake would not be in it to win, but weaken Trump so Trump loses the race to a Dem.
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 05:35 PM
Dec 2018

Flake is among those Repubs who see how dangerous Trump is and wants him gone.

NotASurfer

(2,155 posts)
39. Much better Repub candidate - for us
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:22 PM
Dec 2018

He excites no base

True MAGAbrain trumpazens will stay home forlornly wondering why their orange savior has forsaken them

marble falls

(57,350 posts)
41. They shouldn't bother booking victory party room. I hope they spend every penny ...
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:48 PM
Dec 2018

they can rub together between them running.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
42. Someone will. They're called Democrats.
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 10:07 PM
Dec 2018

Sorry, but there’s no way any Republican beats Trump. The base loves him.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
46. I completely support Republicans challenging Trump for the nomination
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 01:21 PM
Dec 2018

He needs to be dissed by his own party. Republicans need to let him know how much he sucks.

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