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Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:24 PM Dec 2018

Mattis retiring

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Mattis retiring (Original Post) Stonepounder Dec 2018 OP
Does Mattis know he's retiring? Marthe48 Dec 2018 #1
He does now. Solly Mack Dec 2018 #2
LOL! mobeau69 Dec 2018 #5
I couldn't resist. Solly Mack Dec 2018 #29
Exactly how Comey found out. SergeStorms Dec 2018 #21
I've read he submitted a resignation but well...there is no truth from the Trump WH. Solly Mack Dec 2018 #28
He was FIRED! He said earlier that he won't retire BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #3
This is how Mattis found out? Wow. mobeau69 Dec 2018 #4
Where is that crazy SOB John Bolton? I would think he would doc03 Dec 2018 #6
tRump is terrified right now... FarPoint Dec 2018 #7
EXACTLY and The repubs in the senate witnessing the same BUT bluestarone Dec 2018 #8
Senate is just starting to feel the true chaos... FarPoint Dec 2018 #12
Yup. They propagated a whacko base to KPN Dec 2018 #24
Fully agree!! bluestarone Dec 2018 #25
Crime and Punishment in real life! mobeau69 Dec 2018 #11
More like running for cover! n/t akraven Dec 2018 #9
NY Time article BumRushDaShow Dec 2018 #10
Jeez, he's really aged in 2 years. louis-t Dec 2018 #15
Another uh oh time BumRushDaShow Dec 2018 #19
General Flynn is available keithbvadu2 Dec 2018 #13
Alerting on this. Not a reliable mainstream news source. n/t TygrBright Dec 2018 #14
I certainly hope this is sarcasm. n/t Stonepounder Dec 2018 #34
Gen Kelly will be available shortly. keithbvadu2 Dec 2018 #16
One of the extremely few competent people he has ever hired in his life is retiring rpannier Dec 2018 #17
Boo Hoo. maxsolomon Dec 2018 #18
Jesus Herbert Christ. SergeStorms Dec 2018 #20
"Retiring" volstork Dec 2018 #22
Link to CNN nitpicker Dec 2018 #23
He quit benld74 Dec 2018 #26
And I thought last week was a new low for KPN Dec 2018 #27
Matthis was fired by trump Gothmog Dec 2018 #30
JARED! How about super dooper all-purpose man Jared? keithbvadu2 Dec 2018 #31
Mattis is RESIGNING in Protest--He is first Cabinet member to do so. Suck on that Trump riversedge Dec 2018 #32
General Mattis resigned - and his letter is amazing csziggy Dec 2018 #33
Alerting, Mattis did not retire CreekDog Dec 2018 #35
According to MSNBC, Mattis' letter was NOT released by the White House, Stonepounder Dec 2018 #36
After a review by forum hosts...locking. Omaha Steve Dec 2018 #37

Marthe48

(16,958 posts)
1. Does Mattis know he's retiring?
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:26 PM
Dec 2018

n/t

Solly Mack

(90,766 posts)
2. He does now.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:27 PM
Dec 2018

mobeau69

(11,144 posts)
5. LOL!
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:32 PM
Dec 2018

Solly Mack

(90,766 posts)
29. I couldn't resist.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:30 PM
Dec 2018

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
21. Exactly how Comey found out.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:04 PM
Dec 2018

Trump is the biggest piece of shit on this planet, or any other.

Solly Mack

(90,766 posts)
28. I've read he submitted a resignation but well...there is no truth from the Trump WH.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:29 PM
Dec 2018

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
3. He was FIRED! He said earlier that he won't retire
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:30 PM
Dec 2018

since he is worried about what will happen if he does leave! Big difference!

mobeau69

(11,144 posts)
4. This is how Mattis found out? Wow.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:31 PM
Dec 2018

Mattis must have unloaded on him!


doc03

(35,336 posts)
6. Where is that crazy SOB John Bolton? I would think he would
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:38 PM
Dec 2018

oppose getting out of Syria.

FarPoint

(12,368 posts)
7. tRump is terrified right now...
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:39 PM
Dec 2018

A man in full panic mode....Ever since the Flynn Judge Sullivan Court scene where in Treason is mentioned ... tRump pees his pants. .We are witnessing a full blown meltdown.
The Treason thought.... has teeth in my opinion.

bluestarone

(16,940 posts)
8. EXACTLY and The repubs in the senate witnessing the same BUT
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:44 PM
Dec 2018

What the fuck are they doing about it??? NOTHING!!

FarPoint

(12,368 posts)
12. Senate is just starting to feel the true chaos...
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:50 PM
Dec 2018

This tRump delusional claims that Isis has been defeated, we won, no war in Syria now...all an effort to try and cover up his treason...aiding and abedding an enemy of war ...( whatever it says in the Constitution)...

Essentially, he's trying to CYA and maintain the adoration of his base...

KPN

(15,645 posts)
24. Yup. They propagated a whacko base to
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:12 PM
Dec 2018

keep themselves employed and now have no place to go that doesn’t involve self-sacrifice — which most of them are incapable of; that’s what drove them to propagate an ignorant, hatred, mentally unbalanced base in the first place — a priority on self over virtually anything else, including potentially catastrophic damage to our country and possibly the globe. These people are the definition of evil.

bluestarone

(16,940 posts)
25. Fully agree!!
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:14 PM
Dec 2018

mobeau69

(11,144 posts)
11. Crime and Punishment in real life!
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:49 PM
Dec 2018

Watergate x100.

akraven

(1,975 posts)
9. More like running for cover! n/t
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:47 PM
Dec 2018

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
10. NY Time article
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:49 PM
Dec 2018
Jim Mattis, Marine General Turned Defense Secretary, Will Leave Pentagon in February



By Helene Cooper

Dec. 20, 2018

WASHINGTON — Jim Mattis, the four-star Marine general turned defense secretary, will retire at the end of February, President Trump said on Thursday.

Mr. Mattis’ departure comes a day after the president announced his decision to withdraw 2,000 American troops from Syria over the objections of senior military officials.

His departure leaves the Trump administration without one of the few officials viewed as standing between a mercurial president and global tumult.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/20/us/politics/jim-mattis-defense-secretary-trump.html

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
15. Jeez, he's really aged in 2 years.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:54 PM
Dec 2018

Isn't he only about 40?

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
19. Another uh oh time
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:59 PM
Dec 2018


TEXT

Philip Rucker

@PhilipRucker

It's hard to overstate the magnitude of Mattis's resignation. The world viewed him as the rock. As crazy as things appeared to be in the Oval, allies took comfort in the fact that Mattis was in charge at the Pentagon. He will be gone Feb. 28.
2,223
5:40 PM - Dec 20, 2018

keithbvadu2

(36,803 posts)
13. General Flynn is available
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:52 PM
Dec 2018

General Flynn is available

TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
14. Alerting on this. Not a reliable mainstream news source. n/t
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:54 PM
Dec 2018

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
34. I certainly hope this is sarcasm. n/t
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:37 PM
Dec 2018

keithbvadu2

(36,803 posts)
16. Gen Kelly will be available shortly.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:55 PM
Dec 2018

Gen Kelly will be available shortly.


rpannier

(24,329 posts)
17. One of the extremely few competent people he has ever hired in his life is retiring
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:56 PM
Dec 2018

How many have left now?
What happened to his A+, only the best people?
Real worry is, what idiot will he choose to replace Mattis?

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
18. Boo Hoo.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:58 PM
Dec 2018

Boo Hoo Hoo Hoo.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
20. Jesus Herbert Christ.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:00 PM
Dec 2018

Trump is SUCH an asshole! The wheels are off the crazy train.

volstork

(5,401 posts)
22. "Retiring"
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:07 PM
Dec 2018

Uh huh, right....

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
23. Link to CNN
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:11 PM
Dec 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/politics/donald-trump-james-mattis-out/index.html


Washington (CNN) — Defense Secretary James Mattis resigned Thursday on the heels of President Donald Trump's plans to withdraw troops from Syria, citing irreconcilable policy differences.

"Because you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position," Mattis wrote in his letter.

He also pointedly stated that the strength of the US depends in part on the strength of its alliances around the globe, many of which have become notably frayed under Trump.

"One core belief I have always held is that our strength as a nation is inextricably linked to the strength of our unique and comprehensive system of alliances and partnerships. While the US remains the indispensable nation in the free world, we cannot protect our interests or serve that role effectively without maintaining strong alliances and showing respect to those allies," he added.
(snip)

benld74

(9,904 posts)
26. He quit
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:18 PM
Dec 2018

KPN

(15,645 posts)
27. And I thought last week was a new low for
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:22 PM
Dec 2018

this illegal Presidency. Things are frankly becoming quite scary. Mueller, you better hurry up. Our nation and the world are clearly at risk; not just our government and economic systems, but conceivably millions upon millions of human lives.

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
30. Matthis was fired by trump
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:30 PM
Dec 2018

Read his letter


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keithbvadu2

(36,803 posts)
31. JARED! How about super dooper all-purpose man Jared?
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 08:01 PM
Dec 2018

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riversedge

(70,218 posts)
32. Mattis is RESIGNING in Protest--He is first Cabinet member to do so. Suck on that Trump
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 10:58 PM
Dec 2018

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
33. General Mattis resigned - and his letter is amazing
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:32 PM
Dec 2018
Read James Mattis’ resignation letter to Trump: ‘We must be resolute and unambiguous’ toward Russia and China
Published 5 hours ago | Updated 33 min ago
Kevin Breuninger

In a letter addressed to Trump, Mattis said that “because you have a right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours” on a number of subjects, “I believe it is right for me to step down from my position.”

In his letter, Mattis cited the importance of US alliances, particularly NATO, and said the US must stand ‘resolute and unambiguous’ in the face of authoritarian countries such as China and Russia.

Mattis’ resignation comes on the heels of Trump’s controversial plan to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria.

The president’s decision, announced on Wednesday, will reportedly take more than 2,000 U.S. servicemembers out of the country, ending the ground strategy against the Islamic State. Trump said in a tweet Wednesday morning that “we have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason for being there during the Trump Presidency.”




https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/20/read-james-mattis-letter-to-trump-resigning-as-defense-secretary.html

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
35. Alerting, Mattis did not retire
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:41 PM
Dec 2018

there was plenty of time to get the story right.

alerting now because the OP's title is misleading and helping Trump spread a lie.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
36. According to MSNBC, Mattis' letter was NOT released by the White House,
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:15 AM
Dec 2018

but instead it was released by the Pentagon. My belief and seemingly by most of the commentators on MSNBC and CNN is that tRump's unilateral announcement that we were pulling our troops out of Syria and also info leaking out of the White House that tRump is seriously pulling troops out of Afghanistan as well, caused Mattis' resignation because tRump crossed his personal red line and he could not, in good conscience, continue as SecDef.

Rachel just said '...the Secretary of Defense resigning'.

Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
37. After a review by forum hosts...locking.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 09:28 AM
Dec 2018

For title, source, and duplicate.

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