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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 06:37 PM Sep 2012

After Bucking Federal Judge On Early Voting, Ohio Secretary Of State Ordered To Appear In Court

Source: TPM

Judge Peter Economus has set a hearing for September 13 to address Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted’s refusal to comply with the court’s ruling that the state must allow early voting on the three days leading up to the general election. Economus released a terse order Wednesday afternoon: “The Court ORDERS that Defendant Secretary of State Jon Husted personally attend the hearing.” The Obama campaign filed a motion earlier Wednesday asking the court to make Husted give way.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/09/05/803331/after-bucking-federal-judge-on-early-voting-ohio-secretary-of-state-ordered-to-appear-in-court/

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After Bucking Federal Judge On Early Voting, Ohio Secretary Of State Ordered To Appear In Court (Original Post) Tx4obama Sep 2012 OP
I hope the judge throws the book at him. Goddamn it. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2012 #1
+1,000 Voter suppression is a crime. Scuba Sep 2012 #18
Abuse of power should be punished to the max Coyotl Sep 2012 #47
Death sentence!!!!1111 Panasonic Sep 2012 #51
Yep. Then they ought to go after his predecessor, Ken Blackwell JudyM Sep 2012 #58
" " " " " n/t MBS Sep 2012 #19
Would love to see a perp walk...great for the Fall campaign....GOP suppress the voters... Swede Atlanta Sep 2012 #29
LITERALLY!!! n/t ejbr Sep 2012 #39
Al Sharpton has this segment next FarPoint Sep 2012 #2
Please come back and let us know what he says. Tx4obama Sep 2012 #4
I will do my best. FarPoint Sep 2012 #6
Ohio: Obama is fighting in Court Husted's "block the vote" activity. FarPoint Sep 2012 #9
Thanks for the update :) n/t Tx4obama Sep 2012 #11
I bet the republicans never thought the Democrats would fight back still_one Sep 2012 #3
The Board of Election members who Husted fired....all are intertwined with Dayton, Ohio FarPoint Sep 2012 #20
I was a client of his firm many years ago Scairp Sep 2012 #23
We were placid for so long... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #46
Judge Peter Economus. The Discount Judge. Cooley Hurd Sep 2012 #5
Finally! chuckstevens Sep 2012 #7
contempt of court? leftyohiolib Sep 2012 #8
Kick the guys butt, please, Your Honor!!! elleng Sep 2012 #10
Talk of Civil War? THIS is the civil war that is happening around us NOW! HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #12
yes it is! +100 flamingdem Sep 2012 #14
It's more like a coup than a civil war. nt tblue37 Sep 2012 #33
it is a civil war... defacto7 Sep 2012 #42
Jail the sucker for contempt DFW Sep 2012 #13
Here's hoping that the judge "renders" this Terrorist off to jail. SoapBox Sep 2012 #15
I hope the Judge throws his fascist ass in jail for contempt of court magic59 Sep 2012 #16
YES!!!!!!!!!!!! mikki35 Sep 2012 #17
Too bad the hearing wasn't scheduled Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2012 #21
Hey look, Dems growing backbones! vlyons Sep 2012 #22
Put the office of Sec of State into judicially overseen The Second Stone Sep 2012 #24
DROKK IT!!! thelordofhell Sep 2012 #25
So basically, WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2012 #26
Confuse voters? drm604 Sep 2012 #40
Maybe some jail time will change his mind. nt BootinUp Sep 2012 #27
Throw him in jail Renew Deal Sep 2012 #28
"Hello, British Telecom? I'd like to place a person-to-person call to Julian Assange, please..." rocktivity Sep 2012 #30
Standing in the "poll-house" door, just the way George Wallace ProgressiveEconomist Sep 2012 #31
Frickin' A+ K&R! hue Sep 2012 #32
Can we say contempt of court? xxqqqzme Sep 2012 #34
+1 for the Mister Rogers reference! FailureToCommunicate Sep 2012 #35
I hope that he gets his butt thrown avebury Sep 2012 #36
Prepwalk time !!! Setsuna1972 Sep 2012 #37
K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2012 #38
I'm thrilled with this judge ladym55 Sep 2012 #41
Time to clean the stall... defacto7 Sep 2012 #43
I doubt he'll get jail time. bucolic_frolic Sep 2012 #44
Hate to rain on everyone's parade, but there will be no contempt citation, no jail, no fine onenote Sep 2012 #45
Thank you - Ms. Toad Sep 2012 #49
What are the chances the appeals court will overturn? SunSeeker Sep 2012 #53
It will depend on the panel that gets assigned the case onenote Sep 2012 #54
Yeah, but what's the urgency? That people will be allowed a chance to vote unless they rule? SunSeeker Sep 2012 #56
Pigs like him need jail time 3feetofsnow Sep 2012 #48
He'll follow Rove's lead and ignore the Judge The Wizard Sep 2012 #50
if he i in contempt, jail him notadmblnd Sep 2012 #52
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2012 #55
It's SOCK IT TO ME TIME for the GOP! warrprayer Sep 2012 #57

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
58. Yep. Then they ought to go after his predecessor, Ken Blackwell
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 07:17 PM
Sep 2012

who was IMO even worse during the Kerry campaign in OH.

FarPoint

(12,487 posts)
2. Al Sharpton has this segment next
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 06:44 PM
Sep 2012

coming up after the current commercial....Go watch if you can....PoliticalNation....MSNBC.

FarPoint

(12,487 posts)
9. Ohio: Obama is fighting in Court Husted's "block the vote" activity.
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 07:02 PM
Sep 2012

Focused on Husted.....Showed the Rachel Maddow's clip of Dennis Lieberman and Tom Ritchie; the two Democratic Montgomery County Board of Election Officials fired by Husted last week.

Al Just reviewed that the GOP mission is to block voters in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida...

FarPoint

(12,487 posts)
20. The Board of Election members who Husted fired....all are intertwined with Dayton, Ohio
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 07:40 PM
Sep 2012

First, Dennis Lieberman...he is a fine Dayton attorney, a good soul and his wife is a highly respected Montgomery County Commissioner...I don't know much about Tom Ritchie....he is very dedicated and personable.

Well my point is Husted, he is also from Dayton, Ohio. Husted and Lieberman have been on opposite ends of the spectrum for ever. Husted was in the General Assembly of Ohio...Speaker....and pure GOP to the bone.

Dennis, a real Ted Strickland Democrat. Dennis is by the way....brilliant and will out smart Husted in his game.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
23. I was a client of his firm many years ago
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 07:44 PM
Sep 2012

They are top-notch attorneys.

I don't know what this Husted is thinking, he has some kind of delusion he can do whatever he pleases with regard to voter laws and voter's rights. I hope he gets his ass thrown in jail until the election is over. Then his right to vote will suppressed. Fucker.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
46. We were placid for so long...
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 11:16 PM
Sep 2012

that it must be a shock to their system. Bless their hearts (and I mean that in the southern way).

On edit: that can loosely translate to "oh, you poor dumb idiot"

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
7. Finally!
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 06:48 PM
Sep 2012

So many of the Republicans act like they are above the law because they know they can get away with it! Do you think Karl Rove ever fears going to jail? Let's make an example of this little shit.

Sometimes I look at these young slick, Republican thugs like John Husted, Scott Walker, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor and others of their elk and long for Robert Kennedy's justice department to make them wet their pants, knowing the federal government will hold them accountable for their crimes and put them in jail.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
12. Talk of Civil War? THIS is the civil war that is happening around us NOW!
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 07:05 PM
Sep 2012

Failure to see the GOP/Plutocrats attacks as anything else is failure to perceive reality.

DFW

(54,518 posts)
13. Jail the sucker for contempt
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 07:10 PM
Sep 2012

Let him, and every successor Kasich finds in the interim for refusing to comply with the court order until he does, and does so fully. This "above the law" shit is wearing VERY thin, and Husted is no Dick Cheney.

mikki35

(111 posts)
17. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 07:24 PM
Sep 2012

About time!!!!! This is one Ohioan who is thoroughly sick of these strutting little baby Nazis!! Oh PLEASE throw the book at this mega-creep!

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
21. Too bad the hearing wasn't scheduled
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 07:41 PM
Sep 2012

for today or tomorrow so Mister Mister could be found in contempt on national teevee via the convention. Better yet an announcement of his arrest. Husted must have grandiose wet dreams of becoming a major player in the Party of Pissants. Now we gotta wait a week if the coward doesn't give in. What.A.Tool.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
22. Hey look, Dems growing backbones!
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 07:41 PM
Sep 2012

I hope the judge finds him for contempt and makes him do community service at a nursing home, or a homeless shelter. Husted needs an ego reduction and a plate of humble pie.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,060 posts)
26. So basically,
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 07:56 PM
Sep 2012

he also just insulted every voter in Ohio.

"...he would appeal the decision to restore early voting on those three days, claiming that changing the hours now would “only serve to confuse voters.”


They need to throw this bastard's ass in jail, and not for some measly "contempt of court" charge. As far as I'm concerned, systematically trying to keep vast numbers of people from exercising their civil rights is against everything we stand for...he's a traitor.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
31. Standing in the "poll-house" door, just the way George Wallace
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 08:14 PM
Sep 2012

stood ostentatiously in the schoolhouse door to rile up his base in the Alabama Klan and White Citizens Councils.

Husted has mastered the slavery-era race-baiting game that Orville Faubus brought to its peak and Lester Maddox continued in the 60s. Will Husted bring his ax handle to court?

Setsuna1972

(332 posts)
37. Prepwalk time !!!
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 08:43 PM
Sep 2012

I want to see this stupid bastard doing the old Prepwalk If he keeps acting stupid, this will only make HIS scheme that much more out in the open and much easier to slap down.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
41. I'm thrilled with this judge
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:31 PM
Sep 2012

I'm so tired of Rethuglicans thinking that they are above the law. Jon Husted is suppressing the vote ... pure and simple. It didn't help that the Republican chair of Franklin County proudly announced that they opposed early voting because they didn't want to make it easier for "urban voters" or some such racist stuff.

bucolic_frolic

(43,525 posts)
44. I doubt he'll get jail time.
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:49 PM
Sep 2012

A stern rebuke, some specific instructions to be followed no matter what,
and a hefty fine would not surprise me. Disobeying a court is a serious
matter, an arrogant thumbing of one's nose at the judge would land
anyone in hot water.

onenote

(42,858 posts)
45. Hate to rain on everyone's parade, but there will be no contempt citation, no jail, no fine
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 10:10 PM
Sep 2012

When Husted issued his "directive" saying that he was not going to issue an order to state officials to set voting times for the three days preceding election day unless and until the district court's order was upheld by the appellate court, I stated that the next move would be a motion by the Obama administration (plaintiff in the case) to ask the court to specifically direct Husted to comply. The reason this step was needed is that the court's order does not contain a specific deadline for Husted to comply.

While I have not found a copy of the judge's scheduling order on line, my guess (based on experience) is that the reason it directs Husted to appear is not so he can be held in contempt or fined or jailed, but rather for the purpose of having him there to answer questions that the judge likely will pose in the context of what will essentially be a factual hearing as much as a legal hearing. Husted will argue that it is not necessary to set the times for voting in early November at this point in time and that if the public is told that voting will occur during that period and then the decision is reversed, it may be too late for some people to change their schedule to make it possible for them to vote on election day.

I suspect that the judge, after expressing his view that Husted should've filed a motion for a stay of the order if he thinks that there will be harm from immediate compliance, will nonetheless consider Husted's argument. I hope, and expect, that the judge will set a specific schedule for Husted to take action and require him to report back to the court. But I wouldn't necessarily bet the ranch on that prediction. The appeals court has set a very expedited schedule that will be completed by September 21 and thus its entirely possible that the appeals court will decide the appeal by the end of the month.

Ms. Toad

(34,131 posts)
49. Thank you -
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 04:20 PM
Sep 2012

I can understand lay people not understanding the intricacies of the process - but I have been having this same discussion with attorneys (who ought to know better).

You are correct as to what the order included, and what it did not include. Husted is not in contempt until Nov 3 when uniform early voting fails to occur. (Although there are arguments that there will be some date prior to Nov 3 when it is past the point of no return to set up voting on the weekend - but absent a specific deadline in the initial order to set it up, that would require a writ of mandamus, (very difficult to obtain).)

Husted is being a real jerk - but he skating, from my reading of the order, just this side of failing to comply with it.

The only quibble I have with your summary is that the District Court judge may not even have the authority to act if jurisdiction has transferred to the appellate court. The ins and outs of what is a final order is not something I have spent much time on recently (and it was in flux the last time I did). If it is a final order, there is not much the District Court judge can legally do.

SunSeeker

(51,814 posts)
53. What are the chances the appeals court will overturn?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:20 PM
Sep 2012

I read somewhere it is very conservative (which could explain the lightining fast schedule---shades of Bush v. Gore).

onenote

(42,858 posts)
54. It will depend on the panel that gets assigned the case
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:42 PM
Sep 2012

The Sixth Circuit certainly isn't the most liberal circuit, but its current roster of judges includes six nominated to the court by Democrats and 10 by repubs. There also are 9 active "Senior status" judges, including 5 nominated by Democrats and 4 by repubs. So its not out of the question to get a panel with at least two judges appointed by Carter, Clinton and/or Obama.

As for the expedited schedule, I wouldn't read anything into that beyond the fact that the case needs to be expedited since it relates to an election that will occur in less than two months.

SunSeeker

(51,814 posts)
56. Yeah, but what's the urgency? That people will be allowed a chance to vote unless they rule?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:54 PM
Sep 2012

It's not like the issue will be mooted by the election. This is a provision that is supposed to apply to all elections.

What is the horrible consequnces of allowing the lower court's decision to stand through November? Poor working people who would not otherwise be able to get to the polls on Tuesday would get to vote on a Sunday? Kinda like SCOTUS claiming a vote count amounted to irreparable harm.

 

3feetofsnow

(56 posts)
48. Pigs like him need jail time
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 04:00 PM
Sep 2012

with people who have had nothing but racism and poverty in life. He would be crying in the corner wanting to go home to his momma.

The Wizard

(12,556 posts)
50. He'll follow Rove's lead and ignore the Judge
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 04:34 PM
Sep 2012

This time the law has to call their bluff and take him away in cuffs. Rove's criminal finger prints are all over this.

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
57. It's SOCK IT TO ME TIME for the GOP!
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:00 PM
Sep 2012

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