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BumRushDaShow

(129,914 posts)
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 12:25 PM Apr 2018

Sprint and T-Mobile Agree to Merge, in Bid to Remake Wireless Market

Last edited Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:04 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: New York Times

Sprint and T-Mobile announced on Sunday that they had reached a deal to merge, moving to create a new telecommunications giant -- and betting that regulators would finally allow the American wireless service market to shrink to just three national players.

The new company, which would keep the T-Mobile name, would have nearly 100 million retail subscribers. That would give the combined businesses serious heft in a fight against Verizon and AT&T, the two industry leaders that currently control a majority of the American wireless market.

Sprint and T-Mobile have tried repeatedly to merge, arguing that combining is the only way they can compete. Their previous two attempts, though, have failed: in 2014 because of opposition from regulators in the Barack Obama administration, and last year because of disagreements over control of the unified company.

The question this time is whether Washington regulators, even under a Trump administration that has sometimes looked more favorably on mergers, will allow one of the most transformative consolidation effort in years to take place.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/29/business/dealbook/sprint-tmobile-deal.html



What is this, like the 3rd time?

Original WaPo article (replaced it with the NYT article above instead that was updated) -

T-Mobile and Sprint announce plans to merge

by Washington Post Staff April 29 at 12:22 PM

The deal would marry the nation's third- and fourth-largest wireless carriers, respectively. The two firms have held unsuccessful merger talks over the years, with the most recent attempt taking place last fall.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/04/29/t-mobile-and-sprint-announce-plans-to-merge/?utm_term.aa3a83fbf81e


UPDATED WaPo article (finally) -

T-Mobile and Sprint announce plans to merge

T-Mobile and Sprint, the nation’s third and fourth largest wireless carriers, announced a roughly $26 billion merger on Sunday that could dramatically reshape the U.S. telecom industry while testing the appetites of consumers and regulators alike for further corporate consolidation.

The deal marks the latest attempt by T-Mobile, operated by Germany’s Deutsche Telekom, and Sprint, run by the Japanese conglomerate SoftBank, to combine forces as they seek to amass subscribers and challenge the national footprints of AT&T and Verizon, particularly at a time when the industry is racing to deploy the next generation of ultra-fast wireless technology, called 5G.

T-Mobile and Sprint have sought such a tie-up in the past, and much as before, they could face tough regulatory scrutiny in Washington. Federal officials have repeatedly signaled that they believe that consumers are best served when there are at least four national wireless providers competing against one another, not three.

This time, though, executives for Sprint and T-Mobile aim to convince regulators in the Trump administration that offering 5G wireless service around the country -- a network for everything from smartphones to internet-enabled cars and other technologies -- will require more resources than either of them could sustain individually.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2018/04/29/t-mobile-and-sprint-announce-plans-to-merge/?utm_term=.3057776d2ecd
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Rebl2

(13,584 posts)
3. Why
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 12:43 PM
Apr 2018

do they keep doing this. It’s like girlfriend boyfriend getting together and breaking up over and over. Move on.

BumRushDaShow

(129,914 posts)
4. Exactly
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 12:52 PM
Apr 2018

and in some circumstances, one or the other ends up having to pay a "breakup fee" if it doesn't go through.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
12. Not odd at all.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 03:19 PM
Apr 2018

Since many phones are being built with both GSM and CDMA circuitry built in, so a phone could be programmed to switch back and forth between the closest network no matter what it is.

still_one

(92,494 posts)
17. and both CDMA and eventually CDMA are being replaced with LTE. In fact a GSM phone with LTE bands
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 04:27 PM
Apr 2018

will migrate quite easily to Verizon or Sprint, and except for a few rural CDMA only areas, most areas should be covered

still_one

(92,494 posts)
16. Actually not at all. CDMA is phasing out moving toward LTE. Which all the major carriers support.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 04:24 PM
Apr 2018

In fact, most people with current phones, Android or IOS can easily move from AT&T and T-Mobile to Verizon or Sprint because most of the coverage is through LTE which they all support.

The advantage for T-Mobile with this merger is they will be able to increase their coverage area. It is much easier for Sprint to move to T-Mobile because of LTE than the reverse.

The advantage for Sprint is they have a lot of debt, and bleeding a lot of money, so T-Mobile will absorb Sprint's debt, but they will get increased band width for it, and Sprint's customer base.

The problem is the debt load of Sprint would probably cause an increase in prices which perhaps can be modified if T-Mobile lays of Sprint employees. Not good for Sprint employees, and if prices goes up, not good for consumers.

However, Sprint is not in good financial health and to stay in business needs something like this.

Dish Network has a lot of spectrum which the bought at auction, but do not offer mobile service so conceivably they could buy Sprint as a basis for that, but it is more likely the spectrum Dish has was an investment to auction off to the other mobile carriers to make money.

Comcast is trying to get in the Mobile business, but took a big loss with their entry, even though they are OEMing the Verizon network. Part of Comcasts problem is they don't support Android,, and only certain iPhones.

Because of the precarious financial situation Sprint is in, I think the deal overall might be better for competition against AT&T and Verizon. Keep in mind that AT&T and Verizon would have NEVER lowered their prices or allowed unlimited data if it wasn't for John Legere's aggressive marketing and competitive pricing which forced AT&T and Verizon to lower their prices because they were losing customers.

It is a very complicated landscape out there


ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
18. CDMA an GSM are irrelevant anyore
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 04:37 PM
Apr 2018

The new standard is LTE which is what your 4g and 5g data run on. Both GSM and CDMA run on the same SIM card and protocols for LTE and most Sprint and TMobile customers are on LTE. The CDMA capability is only retained to be backwards compatible to the few legacy customers they have. The new 5g is a game changer. Sprint and TMobile probably would be better for each other and the consumer if they merged. 5g will run everything, blazingly fast and abundant capacity. They will even be able to deliver wireless home internet and non wired cable alternatives to break the stranglehold of the cable companies. There will not be 2 smaller companies that will take their place to compete against the ATT/Verizon and also Comcast/Time Warner etc giants. This shouldn't be thought of just in terms of cell phone service providers, and their competitors are massive. If they can't be competitive it will just lead to less choice, continued unfair practices and higher prices.

SWBTATTReg

(22,196 posts)
8. Yeah, really to all of the other posts here...again?!??
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:24 PM
Apr 2018

These people at Sprint/T Mobile can't seem to make up their minds, eh?

They obviously don't know the first thing about relationships! Oh well, we'll see...

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
11. I'd rather Verizon and AT&T were broken up instead
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:09 PM
Apr 2018

I've been a happy enough t-mobile customer (SMS & Calls only, no data), and I don't see how this benefits me. I travel internationally, and therefore need a GSM phone so the additional CMDA spectrum will not benefit me in the least either.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
13. This is going to force a great many retailers...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 03:20 PM
Apr 2018

To start selling T-Mobile again. Best Buy, for example does not sell T-Mobile.

turbinetree

(24,745 posts)
15. That's the ticket let the country have "no" competition, just fucking completely
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 03:54 PM
Apr 2018

repeal the Sherman Antitrust Act

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/sherman_antitrust_act

and then lets throw in

ol·i·gar·chy
ˈäləˌɡärkē/Submit
noun
a small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution.
"the ruling oligarchy of military men around the president"
a country governed by an oligarchy.
"the English aristocratic oligarchy of the 19th century"
government by oligarchy.


Then we can have just like the airlines, four major ones...............fixing the price...................

And to add further insult.............Korea, for example pays for the 5g service for the citizens of there country................you think they, the poor in this country is going to able to subsidize this "merger".................I got a bridge................







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