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turbinetree

(24,745 posts)
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 04:37 PM Apr 2018

NRA finally speaks on Waffle House shooting, says man who stopped it should have used a gun

Source: Think Progress

For years the National Rifle Association’s mantra has been that “the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. So after a good guy without a gun bravely put an end to a deadly mass shooting at a Tennessee Waffle House on Sunday, the organization took some time to formulate a response.

On Monday, Grant Stinchfield, host for the organization’s NRATV, praised James Shaw for his heroism, but simultaneously suggested that it would have been better if he had been armed and could have shot back.

“I will say without a shadow of a doubt, that man saved countless lives,” Stinchfield said. “There would have been many people dead inside that Waffle House if it wasn’t for James Shaw.”

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/nra-says-waffle-house-hero-should-have-carried-a-gun-1605081525a2/



Hey Stinchfield .........................go fuck yourself

Let me repeat this ................Go fuck yourself asshole



I am going to donate to the Gofundme page that Shaw created to help the victims

https://www.gofundme.com/5g07bvs
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NRA finally speaks on Waffle House shooting, says man who stopped it should have used a gun (Original Post) turbinetree Apr 2018 OP
What a jerk. I didn't know about the FBI study. underpants Apr 2018 #1
nonsense AllaN01Bear Apr 2018 #2
A big, fat K&R! CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2018 #3
So the best course of action to seperate the shooter from his gun was present an op. to get another? DRoseDARs Apr 2018 #4
Could've, should've, would've. Didn't. NRA got owned. Initech Apr 2018 #5
If the damn guns had been banned for good decades ago, odds are good this wouldn't have Hoyt Apr 2018 #6
Kick dalton99a Apr 2018 #7
Stinchfield--his name says it all. WhiteTara Apr 2018 #8
Just one little vowel change and... ailsagirl Apr 2018 #12
But I bet it's pronounced the same! WhiteTara Apr 2018 #13
Probably so! And if not, when you say it really fast, it sure will!! ailsagirl Apr 2018 #14
Should have been carrying a gun? mbusby Apr 2018 #9
This durablend Apr 2018 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author grumpyduck Apr 2018 #16
Right. And the "suspected" killer was arrested without the cops firing a single shot. grumpyduck Apr 2018 #17
That's probably why they think he should have had a gun. Crunchy Frog Apr 2018 #19
What a bunch of troglodytes ailsagirl Apr 2018 #11
And now a bunch of idiots will probably grumpyduck Apr 2018 #15
Let's see if I have this correct jmowreader Apr 2018 #18
NRAShite Faced Idiots And, so fucking Cha Apr 2018 #20
A black man with a gun in a Waffle House?? You've got to be kidding... Sancho Apr 2018 #21
Exactly and black men are forever going for their wasteland treestar Apr 2018 #25
Jeez, I thought this was some sort of parody from The Onion! Paladin Apr 2018 #22
Reinking's stubborn continued respiration is no doubt inconvenient for the NRA's clients. Orsino Apr 2018 #23
He says the gun could have prevented the manhunt treestar Apr 2018 #24
According to the NRA, whatever the question, a gun is the answer Va Lefty Apr 2018 #26
I wonder what kind of gun they recommend for a toothache, NotASurfer Apr 2018 #27
You can't reason w/ the NRA...they have a bunch of screws loose in the head and ... SWBTATTReg Apr 2018 #28
 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
4. So the best course of action to seperate the shooter from his gun was present an op. to get another?
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 04:53 PM
Apr 2018

eom

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. If the damn guns had been banned for good decades ago, odds are good this wouldn't have
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 05:02 PM
Apr 2018

happened.

Screw the gun organizations including the NRA with their spokespeople like this gun-loving NRA Board Member.

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mbusby

(823 posts)
9. Should have been carrying a gun?
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 05:17 PM
Apr 2018

Based on the past regarding this persons ethnicity, he would have been swiss cheese when the police showed up.

Response to mbusby (Reply #9)

grumpyduck

(6,293 posts)
15. And now a bunch of idiots will probably
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 07:16 PM
Apr 2018

go buy guns to "protect themselves" against future attacks.

So the gun manufacturers and dealers win at the expense of (in this case) four innocent people. But then again, that's exactly what the NRA is about: lobbying for gun manufacturers no matter what the results.

I think that asshole's comment is disgusting in more ways than one.

jmowreader

(50,594 posts)
18. Let's see if I have this correct
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 08:51 PM
Apr 2018

Good (per the NRA): James Shaw opening fire on the gunman, possibly starting a firefight that would have killed many more people

Bad (per the NRA): James Shaw wrenching the gun from the shooter's Trump-like hands and throwing it behind the counter, therefore saving many lives with the least amount of additional bloodshed

REALLY bad (per the NRA): James Shaw beating the gunman to death with his own rifle before throwing it behind the counter. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy wielding the same gun like it was a baseball bat."

Sancho

(9,072 posts)
21. A black man with a gun in a Waffle House?? You've got to be kidding...
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:45 AM
Apr 2018

the cops would shoot him long before they went after the bad guy!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. Exactly and black men are forever going for their wasteland
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:28 AM
Apr 2018

for a gun they don't have. Actually having one? SMH.

Paladin

(28,287 posts)
22. Jeez, I thought this was some sort of parody from The Onion!
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:54 AM
Apr 2018

Having followed the excesses of the NRA for so many years, I should have known better. What a sick, trashy organization.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
23. Reinking's stubborn continued respiration is no doubt inconvenient for the NRA's clients.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:20 AM
Apr 2018

As is Shaw's.

They prefer that their mass shooters dispose of themselves quickly.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. He says the gun could have prevented the manhunt
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:28 AM
Apr 2018

essentially admitting it was not needed as to the actual shooting.

What an outrageous suggestion - proves all they care about is selling more guns and that these occurrences are something they like, because they give them a chance to suggest more guns are the answer.

NotASurfer

(2,157 posts)
27. I wonder what kind of gun they recommend for a toothache,
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:58 AM
Apr 2018

I had the same thought...It is the NRA and clearly their answer to a cavity would have to be "shoot the tooth".

The only way to stop bad teeth, is a good dentist with a gun?

SWBTATTReg

(22,214 posts)
28. You can't reason w/ the NRA...they have a bunch of screws loose in the head and ...
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:12 AM
Apr 2018

are obviously interested in selling guns, and don't care about public safety, nor the rights of those numerous Americans who don't believe in carrying guns. Why are our rights to not carry or have someone walking around w/ a gun on public property that we have to respect their rights ? How do we know as 'Joe/Jill Public' that they have a carry/conceal/etc. permit?

This is garbage logic, that one needs to have a gun everywhere!! If things were so bad according to the NRA, then crap, people would be getting stabbed and killed everywhere by the thousands and thousands daily.

But this is NOT happening. Society as a whole is doing good, thank you, and yeah, we don't have to carry gun(s) all of the time, and to be honest w/ you (in my opinion), 99.99% of us don't carry guns/knives/baseball bats/etc. We don't have to. We function for the most part in society, as 'treat me like I treat you, nice is, as nice does'. Some of us do have guns but I don't think we go 'overboard' w/ it. I myself, have a small pistol for protection at home in case someone breaks in, but don't ever, ever expect to see or use. Which is fine w/ me.

I'm being hyperbolic here (I apologize in advance here), but maybe if these gun 'nuts' knew to function in society better, there probably would be less gun crimes against persons, since they didn't have to suck on the barrels of their guns as a security blanket. Basically I'm saying that these gun carrying nuts are very paranoid and insincere, and are somewhat 'nuts' already. I've seen too many of these 'macho' shows where folks are strutting around, showing off their guns and so forth, and I get nervous when I see this kind of behavior. I kind think others do too.

How many gun accidents happen at home that accidently kill family or loved ones accidently? I myself had such an incident when I was a child, thank god that no one was hurt w/ the gun in question (had blanks in it instead of real bullets).

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