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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:05 AM Apr 2018

Trump blamed as U.S. colleges lure fewer foreign students

Source: Politico




U.S. colleges blame the administration’s immigration policies as they fall behind foreign competitors in vying for international students.

By BENJAMIN WERMUND 04/23/2018 05:01 AM EDT

American universities are losing out to colleges in other countries in the race to enroll international students, and they’re blaming President Donald Trump.

Foreign competitors are taking advantage of Trump’s anti-immigration rhetoric, aggressively recruiting the types of foreign students and faculty who would have typically come to the United States for their higher education. The data already show that U.S. colleges are falling behind foreign competitors during the Trump era.

New foreign student enrollment in the U.S. dropped by 3 percent during the 2016-17 school year, and that decline is projected to double this school year, data show. At the same time, universities overseas are seeing increases as high as the double digits. The decline in foreign students enrolling in American colleges is just the latest evidence of Trump's immigration policies shutting doors in America. The U.S. is also granting fewer visitor visas to people from around the world.

Trump is responsible for the decline in student enrollment, U.S. universities argue — especially his travel ban, which goes before the Supreme Court on Wednesday. Dozens of higher education groups wrote in an amicus brief for that case that Trump's travel ban is a "clarion message of exclusion to millions" that harms universities' ability to enroll international students and recruit top faculty.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/23/foreign-students-colleges-trump-544717

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SWBTATTReg

(22,205 posts)
1. Yes, and now the American student is going to pay higher ...
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:13 AM
Apr 2018

costs per course credit. That's nice, basically just increased college costs for millions of American families.

Nice! (sarcasm...

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
10. I would think the schools would want to keep enrollment at the same level
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:55 AM
Apr 2018

and thus would lower their standards to do that. The PR departments will call it something else, of course.

SWBTATTReg

(22,205 posts)
11. Maybe you're right...from what I understand, ...
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:59 AM
Apr 2018

entrance into college has been somewhat of a challenge over last several years, due to huge inflow of students (baby boomers' kids probably) and students to be let in has been cherry-picked. Standards had been tightened, and thus probably should be relaxed. I think all should be allowed, for if they wish to improve themselves, why not? Barriers should not be erected, but instead, relaxed.

Education is the pathway to success, or at least, it gives students perhaps a broader view of the world.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
15. Community colleges do that (the 'all should be allowed' part)
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 11:51 AM
Apr 2018

and teachers at community colleges, and state schools, can gear their instruction to the abilities of the students to grasp it. It's not the same as the level of learning at top institutions, nor should it be. It accommodates people who wish to improve themselves without the danger of them falling hopelessly behind students who have the quickest, strongest minds.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
12. Foreign students are a low cost labor pool
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 11:21 AM
Apr 2018

Especially in engineering when a US citizen can get a $60K+ job out of college and have his/her employer pay for the M.S. You need graduate students to at an engineering research university.

riversedge

(70,445 posts)
3. I went to Grad school at a University with a large international group of students. Best
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:21 AM
Apr 2018

education ever to have them in the classroom. Best ever.

awesomerwb1

(4,269 posts)
4. More great news!
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:24 AM
Apr 2018

For the base that is. Fewer potential immigrants, more spots for Americans (so they think).

And great news for those in his base and the gopers who think higher education is bad.

MAGA!

IronLionZion

(45,644 posts)
5. Why bother putting up the money for school but risk not getting a visa
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:29 AM
Apr 2018

I've heard about this a lot from foreign students whose relatives wanted to come here but it's not worth the risk because of dipshit's visa restrictions.

It's takes a lot of time, effort, and money. And that would all be lost if the visa doesn't come through. People have to sort out housing and pay tuition and book plane tickets to move here before knowing if they'll have a visa.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
8. Great news for Canadian universities and scientists.
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:49 AM
Apr 2018

Applications from foreign students were never higher than last fall, and news reports suggest that there is a significant "brain drain" of researchers coming north, or coming back home.

llmart

(15,567 posts)
14. Not surprised.
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 11:46 AM
Apr 2018

I was in faculty hiring and we had some amazing foreign nationals doing important research in many areas. I was often impressed by their resumes and what they had done and accomplished in their lives. We had a considerable amount of Canadians too!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. I wouldn't come either. But it's far more malignant than Trump.
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:50 AM
Apr 2018

Far bigger, allied fascism-leaning elements, wealthy and religious, will continue their attempts to take over with him gone, and even accelerate if we don't put a stop to them. I believe we probably are in this election, but it's far from guaranteed. Whether fascist, libertarian, or religious extremists, all have clearly decided limiting education for most furthers their goals.

But the notion that this has ANYTHING really to do with Trump, except as he is a broken tool they're using as best possible, is a very dangerous one. Just imagine the Allied forces cluelessly shooting in the air and at each other while seemingly invisible fascist Axis nations finished conquering Europe.

Republican-controlled legislatures and courts across our nation and mass disinformation are their biggest political tools.

COUNTDOWN TO THE GIANT MIDTERM BATTLE FOR POWER: 196 days!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. Parents overseas telling their kids "College in the USA? That would be a de-education!"
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 11:36 AM
Apr 2018

"Americans must be idiots if they elected an idiot like Trump!"

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