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Mon Apr 9, 2018, 05:31 PM

Syria 'chemical attack': Russia and US in fierce row at UN

Source: BBC

The US and Russia have traded barbs at a UN Security Council meeting on the alleged chemical attack in Syria.

Russian envoy Vassily Nebenzia said the incident in Douma was staged and that US military action in response could have "grave repercussions".

US Ambassador Nikki Haley said Russia had the "blood of Syrian children" on its hands.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43706579



It's unfortunate that we have had to mistrust our own government as much as the other evil empires.

I trust our professionals who have worked hard to make this country work. I totally distrust the carpetbaggers that were installed in last election.

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Reply Syria 'chemical attack': Russia and US in fierce row at UN (Original post)
erronis Apr 2018 OP
sandensea Apr 2018 #1
Liberalagogo Apr 2018 #2
BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #3
Liberalagogo Apr 2018 #8
erronis Apr 2018 #6
Liberalagogo Apr 2018 #7
Cha Apr 2018 #16
Liberalagogo Apr 2018 #17
The_Casual_Observer Apr 2018 #4
fountainofyouth Apr 2018 #10
The_Casual_Observer Apr 2018 #11
fountainofyouth Apr 2018 #13
The_Casual_Observer Apr 2018 #14
Nitram Apr 2018 #18
The_Casual_Observer Apr 2018 #22
Nitram Apr 2018 #23
The_Casual_Observer Apr 2018 #24
SummerSnow Apr 2018 #5
The_Casual_Observer Apr 2018 #12
cbreezen Apr 2018 #15
0rganism Apr 2018 #9
Nitram Apr 2018 #19
0rganism Apr 2018 #20
Nitram Apr 2018 #21

Response to erronis (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 05:48 PM

1. It's never been harder to know who's telling the truth.

Between Nikki Haley - or any other Cheeto appointee - and a Russian apparatchnik, it's nothing but half truths.

IF that.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 05:58 PM

2. Note that this is all escalating

 

just when Shithole's lawyer is getting raided.

Coincidence?

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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 06:01 PM

3. I thought the trade war would provide the necessary distraction.

I never believe a word from any Russian but I do trust Haley a ton more, even if she is in the fucking moron's camp.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 06:23 PM

8. The more the heat is turned up on the Shithole

 

the more distractions you are going to see.

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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 06:08 PM

6. I'd say coincidence but given the rate of failures of the repugs/dumps, coincidences abound.

Every day, every hour there's something new that boggles a mind that expects rationality and repeatibility- a scientific approach to cause and effect.

With the random spewings that come from the WH I think the predictability is almost in how unpredictable it is. There's a phrase in experimentation/statistics for this.

If you're interested in why several things may happen at the same time, I highly recommend David Hand's "The Improbability Principle: Why Coincidences, Miracles, and Rare Events Happen Every Day" While this is a good description of probability, it doesn't explain how we ended up with so many cretins in our government. Another book....

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Response to erronis (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 06:22 PM

7. My point is

 

that when the heat is turned up on the Shithole, suddenly there are more problems with Russia. I think coordination and collusion are a lot more likely than any coincidence.

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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 06:15 AM

16. Kabuki theater?

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Response to Cha (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 09:44 AM

17. Yes and no

 

These people would do anything to take the heat off. Even start a real global conflict.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 06:04 PM

4. The video I saw of this looked potentially bogus. I have no idea who or why it would have

created it or for what purpose, but the whole attack ought to be properly investigated before drawing conclusions one way or the other.

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:49 PM

10. Bogus based on what? n/t

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Response to fountainofyouth (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:53 PM

11. Bogus based on three kids getting treated with one puff of an asthma breather and squirted with

garden hose. Is there any more evidence than this? If so let me know.

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Response to fountainofyouth (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 11:25 PM

14. Too late to argue the authenticity of it anyway.

Israel already used it as a pretext to start bombing Syria. Here we go!

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #14)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 10:52 AM

18. Nice try, Casual. Confronted with the evidence you asked for you deflect to Israel.

Given the history and the players, the truth in this situation is not so difficult to distinguish from the lies. Syria has been using chemical weapons on its people for a long time now, and Russia has always defended Assad no matter what. This is not war, it is crimes against humanity as defined in numerous international treaties.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 05:47 PM

22. No point in arguing with the authority!

Case closed.

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #22)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 07:22 PM

23. I guess not. Human Rights Watch has reported 80 incidents since the start of the civil war.

When barrels are dropped from helicopters, it ani't the rebels. They don't have helicopters.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #23)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 07:45 PM

24. Ok you win. Case closed.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 06:06 PM

5. So all of those people in the video were actors. Give me a break

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:55 PM

12. I don't know what they were but they seem to only have one 45 sec video of the whole event.

Hardly proof of anything. If you have some other evidence please share it. I can't find any.

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 06:08 AM

15. For what it's worth... I assumed it occurred on a playground or

at a day care center. I didn't see any adult victims.

When I see videos that are edited to induce a maximum emotional reaction, I think Kuwait and incubators.

You are not alone in feeling the need to don that old now and again.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 06:27 PM

9. i can't help but think this "fierce row" is pure...

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Response to 0rganism (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 10:57 AM

19. I can very easily see it as something a great deal more serious than Kabuki theater.

Unless you think every chemical attack so far has been fake news. That is a great deal harder to believe that such attacks are in the interests of Russia and Assad. The UN and numerous apolitical NGOs have collected substantial evidence of the attacks. Assad and his Russian allies have killed 700,000 Syrians so far.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:09 AM

20. i don't for a second believe the attacks are fake

i DO however believe the "fierce row" twixt Trump and his Russian Boss regarding the matter are fake.

i also believe my post was misunderstood, which is quite possible as it was on the terse side.

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Response to 0rganism (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:30 AM

21. OK, thanks for the clarification. There was a post or two above that clearly suggested they were

fake, so I jumped to conclusions. Sorry about that. One wonders if Trump is trying to show he's his own man, and not beholden to Putin. Too little, too late.

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