Woman earns honorable discharge 60 years after Air Force kicked her out for being gay
Source: The Hill
A Pennsylvania woman earned her honorable discharge from the U.S. Air Force this week, more than 60 years after she was discharged as "undesirable" for being gay.
NPR reported Saturday that Helen Grace James, 90, a former airman 2nd Class, received her honorable discharge this week after decades of fighting the government for recognition.
James was investigated for homosexuality and subsequently discharged from the service in 1955 after investigators threatened to tell her family she was gay. She was told to sign a statement and was discharged as "undesirable," according to NPR.
"I'm still trying to process it," she told NBC. "It was both joy and shock. It was really true. It was really going to be an 'honorable discharge.'"
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/369909-woman-earns-honorable-discharge-60-years-after-being-kicked-out
rocktivity
(44,573 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 17, 2022, 03:24 PM - Edit history (13)
P.S. I saw a true crime show about a soldier on a weekend pass who was found stabbed to death -- and was given a dishonorable discharge for being AWOL! His family had a followup autopsy done, but the time of death could not be determined. Bad news? Quite the opposite.
The family used the autopsy report to argue that since it couldn't be proved the soldier's death DIDN'T take place BEFORE the weekend pass ran out, the military HAD to presume his innocence. The soldier was given an honorable discharge with all the posthumous trimmings!
rocktivity
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(3,959 posts)retirement based on either service or disability.
It changes her eligibility for veterans benefits. I'm including a link to a document that spells this out in good detail.
http://www.mcasiwakuni.marines.mil/Portals/112/Docs/sja/discharge%20list.pdf
In short, there are three punitive discharges for enlisted personnel (in order of severity):
Dishonorable (Only from a General Court Martial)
Bad Conduct (From a General Court Martial)
Bad Conduct (From a Special Court Martial)
(a Summary Court Martial cannot order a discharge)
For officers, cadets & midshipmen, there is only "Dismissal" from a General Court Martial and is substantively (but not exactly) equivalent to Dishonorable.
For enlisted and officers, there are also administrative discharges from worst to best:
Other than Honorable (normally included undesirable)
General under Honorable
Honorable
Additionally, individuals with less than 180 days of continuous active military service may receive an "Entry Level Separation" that has no characterization of service.
On the AWOL/murder case - probably this was very poor reporting as dead people do not face a court martial. What would have been done is a line-of-duty investigation. A soldier who is AWOL is not in the line of duty (NLOD) and this probably was to determine survivor death benefits. If you are NLOD and are injured, you may be held responsible for the cost of your medical care. AWOL is not the only reason for being not in the line of duty - but it is for decisions you make and not for involuntary conditions. A common NLOD is drunk driving, but if you were acting responsible and were unknowingly drugged, that would be in line of duty.
rocktivity
(44,573 posts)You just never know when you'll be called upon to give "expert testimony" -- thanks! Or should that be "SIR! THANKS, SIR!"
rocktivity
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(3,959 posts)appointed to conduct two Summary Courts, both overseas. One was investigating the accidental death of a Chief Warrant Officer. It included a Line of Duty investigating and communicating with his family (in the States) on disposition of his property. The other was punitive where you end up as judge, trial counsel and defense attorney all in one. Add in a half dozen admin things like reports of survey or 15-6 investigations, and I suppose it makes sense I ended up as an IG for several years.
For the last 20+ years I've been in the civil service but am privileged to work alongside military personnel in a Joint Environment. The young Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and occasional Marines with which I work impress me every day. We are 7/24 ops Emergency Essential so holidays are just work days when our team is on. Our day shops brought in so much food we were pretty much force-fed. On Christmas & New Year's long weekends, two of the Brig Generals (1 Army & 1 Marine who are not 24-hr Ops) were in - not just to show the flag, but to participate substantively in mission ops.
I'm watching netflix all night to finish changing my sleep cycle - we start mids tomorrow night.
usaf-vet
(6,178 posts)USAF Sgt 65-69
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Back then troops could be discharged for "homosexual tendencies". Yup, that's how it read.
/on edit/ USAF 62-83, MSgt, NCOIC, Discharge/Reenlistment Section (for several years)
mahannah
(893 posts)burrowowl
(17,636 posts)I salute her!